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Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread) Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)
View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending.
177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend.
112 20.55%
Probably wont attend.
93 17.06%
Probably will attend.
71 13.03%
Definitely will attend.
92 16.88%

03-16-2020 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by shantideva
So an ER practitioner, on the front line of this battle, who is currently at work by has tickets to go to Vegas this weekend so he posts a question regarding a very fluid situation in the one place he should be able to find an answer is dumb?
I’ll keep that in mind.
Not sure what more you'd like me to say. I've never once said you were dumb, but I suppose I have implied that your question was. And given that it was answered just 3 posts before your question, I'll stand by that. As I said, no big deal - I've asked numerous dumb questions in my life.

But it's obvious it was a big deal to you, since you've posted about it twice since then, so you have my sincere apologies that I made you feel dumb and/or tried to make you look dumb.
03-16-2020 , 01:35 AM
The world for a while is going to feel like Steve Martin.

NSFW

03-16-2020 , 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by shantideva
So an ER practitioner, on the front line of this battle, who is currently at work by has tickets to go to Vegas this weekend so he posts a question regarding a very fluid situation in the one place he should be able to find an answer is dumb?
I’ll keep that in mind.
I'd be very surprised if there were one ER practitioner who would show such complete disregard for the fact that he's about to be very needed on the frontlines and risked many lives of his patients because he wanted to gamble in Vegas
03-16-2020 , 01:46 AM
Wow, I find the fact that old nits at Orleans playing 5 handed the most surprising thing of this impact on Vegas.

03-16-2020 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by parisron
All MGM properties will be closed along with Wynn and Encore and some Caesars poker rooms. Will be pretty weird.
Thank you for that. It’s probably best if I cancel. Surely by the end of the week everything will be closed. You’re a good, kind soul.
03-16-2020 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Not sure what more you'd like me to say. I've never once said you were dumb, but I suppose I have implied that your question was. And given that it was answered just 3 posts before your question, I'll stand by that. As I said, no big deal - I've asked numerous dumb questions in my life.

But it's obvious it was a big deal to you, since you've posted about it twice since then, so you have my sincere apologies that I made you feel dumb and/or tried to make you look dumb.
You’ve said enough, sir. You’ve said enough.
03-16-2020 , 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
I'd be very surprised if there were one ER practitioner who would show such complete disregard for the fact that he's about to be very needed on the frontlines and risked many lives of his patients because he wanted to gamble in Vegas
So I’m not entitled to days off? 14 days in a row isn’t enough for you?
03-16-2020 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shantideva
So I’m not entitled to days off? 14 days in a row isn’t enough for you?
hell no. you cannot travel in your position, I understand everyone needs a break but you must stay home

I don't understand why I'm even explaining these things to you as if you're a 14-year old

I prefer to live in the world where doctors are not unethical scumbags but I guess I'm just naive
03-16-2020 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by shantideva
I’ve heard the casinos are closing. This true? I was gonna come to Vegas for the weekend for more than just some good cocaine and a hooker. Wanted to play poker.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shantideva
So an ER practitioner, on the front line of this battle, who is currently at work by has tickets to go to Vegas this weekend so he posts a question regarding a very fluid situation in the one place he should be able to find an answer is dumb?
I’ll keep that in mind.
The casinos are closing as we write.

Let's assume you're an ER practitioner. Kudos!

You're needed badly where you are, non-stop, if needed, because if this does escalate into a war zone situation, as many medical professionals are predicting, I'll doubt you'll have time for forays to Las Vegas or anywhere else for that matter.

I know it's an extremely difficult time, for anyone in the know, living on the frontlines so I hope in every way that it all goes well.

Chill in here.
03-16-2020 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
hell no. you cannot travel in your position, I understand everyone needs a break but you must stay home

I don't understand why I'm even explaining these things to you as if you're a 14-year old

I prefer to live in the world where doctors are not unethical scumbags but I guess I'm just naive
Look, if they advance to disaster status, that’s one thing. But they also understand that we are human and not machines and need to recharge our batteries.
03-16-2020 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by R*R
The casinos are closing as we write.

Let's assume you're an ER practitioner. Kudos!

You're needed badly where you are, non-stop, if needed, because if this does escalate into a war zone situation, as many medical professionals are predicting, I'll doubt you'll have time for forays to Las Vegas or anywhere else for that matter.

I know it's an extremely difficult time, for anyone in the know, living on the frontlines so I hope in every way that it all goes well.

Chill in here.
If it becomes violent we will be ready.
03-16-2020 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by shantideva
If it becomes violent we will be ready.
It's already physically violent. Triage is even being discussed in some countries.

And I do hope you're not truly an ER Practitioner.
03-16-2020 , 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by R*R
It's already physically violent. Triage is even being discussed in some countries.

And I do hope you're not truly an ER Practitioner.
Would you rather I be unemployed? You’re very judgmental, man. It’s not like we’re being overwhelmed. If and when it gets to that point we will adjust, but right now our census is pretty much consistent in the ED.

And the he’ll you talking about “triage is being considered in some countries?” Is English not your first language or you just like using words that you don’t know what they mean? Every ED I’ve ever worked in has a triage nurse and every single patient gets triaged and assigned a severity level based on ESI.
03-16-2020 , 04:06 AM
The italian health care system is almost done and collapsed..
You aren't even allowed to say goodbye or visit your dying loved ones because infection risk is too high! Only by phone.
Doctors need to send people home because there is no more capacity left. If it collapses well gg..
This virus does attack the health infrastructure, it's not that dangerous in itself for the health of people, it's more about mass infection and no health care system in the world is prepared if 70% of your countries population gets infected too fast.

Last edited by haerdn; 03-16-2020 at 04:23 AM.
03-16-2020 , 04:39 AM
seems like these guys should be given 75 million not 750k


https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...-cure-c-746655

Last edited by Dreadnaught; 03-16-2020 at 04:44 AM.
03-16-2020 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Eponymous
No worries.

I agree that testing many more than only those with symptoms would be ideal — not only to help understand how it is spread but also to provide more accurate data on its lethality. Perhaps that would be their plan if they had more test kits available. I don’t really know what’s limiting their production.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lat...on%3f_amp=true
03-16-2020 , 05:16 AM
As I mentioned much earlier ITT, even if the WSOP goes ahead, the fields will be very small due to non US residents not going and many long distance North American residents not going.

So please everyone ignore the incorrect advice of Bobo Fett, who as often on NVG threads likes to challenge multiple posters and does it with an air of superiority whilst knowing that he can ban anyone who he doesn't like or who he disagrees with, and cancel anything and everything that you have already booked and/or paid for relating to this year's WSOP.

His argument that you can wait because your cancellation policy may allow you to wait x amount of time, is a blind spot argument, because the series is a dead duck anyway but importantly, the company(ies) / insurance companies / indemnity schemes that might be contractually obliged to refund or part refund you for any cancellations could easily be out of business by the time you wait to claim your refunds at or close to the last moment as advised by the brilliant Boba Fett.

Boba Fett should make his mind up whether he is a forum moderator that tries to remain impartial and cordial with posters in the threads,..... or if he doesn't want to be a forum moderator, thus allowing him to post freely and attack and disagree with all and sundry until his heart's content.

He can't have it both ways IMO.
03-16-2020 , 05:17 AM
They're playing Live at the Bike RIGHT NOW.
03-16-2020 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
They're playing Live at the Bike RIGHT NOW.
Yea that's a re-run mate. The casino is closed down.
03-16-2020 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
They're playing Live at the Bike RIGHT NOW.
Before you posted the above, I was about to write that I feel that the current situation, as applied in the USA, as well as being obviously extremely serious, and I wish all in the USA well, is a test of the American culture of the dollar being above all else.

It seems to me that for the USA to not suffer worse health consequences than avoidable, that as a nation they need to jettison the dollar is God philosophy immediately, essentially meaning that the rich and super rich help the poor, the government and the healthcare insurance companies / healthcare industry work together to waive all fees and provide every citizen adequate healthcare during this period, whether insured or not, and places such as The Bike act more responsibly and put the population's health above profit.

Edit: after typing the above I saw that The Bike is shut. So well done to them for taking that step, and apologies.

What I said about healthcare for all still applies though, as does temporarily jettisoning the dollar is God philosophy from American culture.
03-16-2020 , 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Yea that's a re-run mate. The casino is closed down.
Ok, I thought so. Lol. There is live chat going on.
03-16-2020 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikey_D
So please everyone ignore the incorrect advice of Bobo Fett, who as often on NVG threads likes to challenge multiple posters and does it with an air of superiority whilst knowing that he can ban anyone who he doesn't like or who he disagrees with, and cancel anything and everything that you have already booked and/or paid for relating to this year's WSOP.
I've never banned anyone for disagreeing with me, and I never will.

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Originally Posted by Mikey_D
His argument that you can wait because your cancellation policy may allow you to wait x amount of time, is a blind spot argument, because the series is a dead duck anyway but importantly, the company(ies) / insurance companies / indemnity schemes that might be contractually obliged to refund or part refund you for any cancellations could easily be out of business by the time you wait to claim your refunds at or close to the last moment as advised by the brilliant Boba Fett.
Quite some time ago (at least by fast-moving Covid standards), someone asked if they should be worried about their travel arrangements. I said something to the effect that if they didn't have some impending deadline by which time they had to cancel, there wasn't really any harm in waiting, and worrying wasn't going to help. That was before many of these companies became much more flexible with cancellations, and it could be that by waiting until this happened, they are now getting better results - but that wasn't something I foresaw, so I'm certainly taking no credit for that. I'm not sure that insurance is often going to come into cancellation issues, but I suppose that if someone were going that route, they might want to jump on it sooner. My thinking then, and it remains now, if there is no reason to believe that cancelling now or later is going to change their cost, it doesn't matter all that much what they do. But things have changed a lot in the days in between, so I expect most people would want to cancel now, and I wouldn't blame them.

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Originally Posted by Mikey_D
Boba Fett should make his mind up whether he is a forum moderator that tries to remain impartial and cordial with posters in the threads,..... or if he doesn't want to be a forum moderator, thus allowing him to post freely and attack and disagree with all and sundry until his heart's content.

He can't have it both ways IMO.
Our moderators are volunteers. My moderating duties are also done voluntarily. Most of us do it because we enjoy the forums, and have decided to give back and help out. However, I don't know how many people would be willing to do so if that meant they were no longer allowed to disagree with people. I have no idea how that makes sense to you, or what such a rule would accomplish.

As for attacking, I'm not sure what that's all about. I can't recall attacking anyone in this thread, although I did poke a little fun at shantideva a few hours ago. Meantime, you've come in out of the blue to post about my air of superiority, sarcastically called me brilliant, and suggested that I regularly attack people and know I can ban anyone for disagreeing with me. If you wanted to make a point about cancelling tickets, that was easy enough to do without making it all about me. There does seem to be some attacking going on here, but it's not coming from this direction.

Anyway, if you'd like to continue this discussion about how moderators should post, or about what a prick with an air of superiority I am, you should feel free to start a thread about that issue, or about me, in About the Forums. We don't need to derail the thread with this.

If you just wanted to post about cancelling travel arrangements, I don't think we disagree about much on that note.
03-16-2020 , 06:01 AM
You are heavily involved in a lot of NVG threads, much more than other moderators and much more forcefully of opinion than other moderators.

World stock markets are down ~33%, many, many companies are extremely likely to announce job cuts, big scaling down of their operations or bankruptcy. Not only does this affect their investors/owners and their employee's finances, but there is a huge ripple effect on nearly every other part of the economy.

Suppliers will start very soon to not get paid by fellow companies who simply don't have the money to pay and this will cause another bad domino ripple effect.

Many, many companies I predict will go out of business, so claim any refunds now IMO.

Which companies and professions are immune from a financial downturn during this crisis?

It is very few. Some off the top of my head who are not affected and may even be benefiting from it are:

Politicians, Journalists, Food Production and its Retail, Financial Traders, On line Poker Players, The Healthcare Industry.

Nearly every other industry or profession is affected. Even if you an architect, realtor, lawyer, accountant, designer, marketer (so a non leisure/travel sector professional and one that can even work from home) you will still be badly affected because a lowering of general commerce will lower your number of clients and the amount of work you are given.

Even in the best case scenario of the virus being under control within 3 months and a vaccine being found and being viable, it will take at least another 6 months, perhaps as long as 18 months for a full/near full financial recovery from all of the above to happen IMO.

Last edited by Mikey_D; 03-16-2020 at 06:15 AM.
03-16-2020 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikey_D
You are heavily involved in a lot of NVG threads, much more than other moderators and much more forcefully of opinion than other moderators.
He happens to be one of the best posters in NVG. I would say most would share that opinion. You believe he should refrain from posting because you he disagreed with you? Why does it matter that he’s a moderator? I’ve forcefully disagreed with a lot of moderators, even repeatedly calling for one of them to be removed as mod, and I was never banned or even infracted for it. That he might do so to someone is a totally unfounded fear on your part.
03-16-2020 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Eponymous
He happens to be one of the best posters in NVG. I would say most would share that opinion. You believe he should refrain from posting because you he disagreed with you? Why does it matter that he’s a moderator? I’ve forcefully disagreed with a lot of moderators, even repeatedly calling for one of them to be removed as mod, and I was never banned or even infracted for it. That he might do so to someone is a totally unfounded fear on your part.
I think he is one of the worst posters, because he habitually puts down the views of other posters in a school head master type way. He is the only person I have seen do this on any forum, moderator or non moderator.

There is no way on earth IMO that he could get away with posting in that style if he was not a moderator. He would be soundly told to STFU by many posters.

      
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