USA#9 will not lock down the way China has, and we won't trace as effectively. As my post noted, I'd set the line lower than 7 mil but I do think this has the potential to be a disaster.

And yet there are still people that keep coming on here and posting pretty much the same thing.

And then being told in turn the same thing. Like I'm pretty sure Howard and others have said that same post like a dozens times already to various people that keep coming on here and saying some variation of H1N1 we will all get it eventually blargh. Amazing.

Alterra Mountain Company just shut down all its ski resorts (Mammoth, Park City, Deer Valley among others).

Meh, I don't think there are many, if any, touting the "this will go away in two weeks" line anymore. And in fairness, when Howard says things like "But i'm of the view that failing to fast-track a vaccine will cause hundreds of thousands of deaths here, perhaps low millions.", he's on the fairly extreme other end. By extreme, I don't even mean necessarily wrong, just that you aren't going to find a lot of people suggesting anything worse than "low millions" of deaths. So it's not surprising he gets some push back on numbers like that.

Here's the thing about this specific virus. Its not so much the fatality of the disease itself, its the virulence. The spread of this disease is going so fast that the strain on our medical systems will be extreme. And we are already seeing rumblings of it here in the hospitals in Ireland.

The US healthcare system, although the standard of healthcare when I worked there is very high, is to be frank a complete disaster in terms of basic healthcare access for the community as a whole. Which when the system is overloaded we will likely see a lot of unnecessary deaths that would have been prevented if the rate of influx could have been contained.

The total death rate isn't going to be really pathologically based its going to be dependent on the public's behavioural response to the spread. We are in the calm before the storm right now and depending on how we all react the differences in deaths could differ to the degree of orders of magnitude. Idk what the line would be on people acting responsibly but I guess we will see.

I will remind you, by all estimates, the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918 killed some 500,000 Americans, or a bit shy of .5% of the population. So, what you say is “inevitably” the Covid-19 pandemic will be 14 times worse from an overall death standpoint, and more than four times worse from a percent of population killed standpoint than the deadliest pandemic in US history? Even though that one occurred in a time when “modern” medicine didn’t even know what a virus was. That one occurred when there was not nearly the same healthcare apparatus set up in this country. That one occurred when much of America’s attention and resources were focused on fighting in a World War.

It is your belief that the “math” indicates this sort of quasi-apocalyptic scenario is likely to play out?

Am I the only one who is not getting why at least a couple of you are using the term "USA#9"? Would you mind explaining it?

That could be big

I still see the "it's just flu" posts on Facebook today. I honestly wonder if these same people would say "oh it's just like an x-ray" in the middle of a nuclear war!

Juk

Covid-19 is many millions of orders of magnitude closer to the flu than a nuclear war is to an x-ray. So while “it’s just like flu” may not end up being accurate (we won’t know for about 9 months), it is far more likely to be accurate than the nonsensical analogy you made.

It's like I'm reading the same 4 posts over and over again. We could probably just condense this into like a 10 post sticky at this point until the official cancellation.

For the average person though, so far the classic symptoms are actually a lot milder than your average seasonal flu. The real issue is based on what we can see on the CTs of the severe cases, which are patients in the vast minority, are extreme. This is perpetuating the problem because people who are relatively fine are exacerbating the exposures to those susceptible to the most severe versions of the clinical presentation.

Here's a good article showing some of the most severe presentations, if those presenting with this level of pathology don't get access to immediate supportive management they will die.

https://interestingengineering.com/c...id-19-patients

You could also unsubscribe. I've found the posts about different cancellations and shutdowns in LV to be pretty much exactly what I came here for TBH.

This. Not sure why people keep posting about some WSOP online series. It would be laughably trash.

Event 1 got 409 players with prize pool of 171k. Not bad after only creating it yesterday out of the blue.

Almost 42k up top and a ring.

Wynn closing the poker room tomorrow at 6am.

A quick sum up on this point. Clinical test is not why it takes a year. And there are risks to rushing out a vaccine without a sense of how people will react. You could make things worse

6 games at Aria, 8pm Saturday.

Total poker action on the Las Vegas Strip is down about 1/3 from last night.

Basically, tourists leaving town and not being replaced by somebody new is killing the games.

Bellagio: 14 tables (five 1-3 NL, three 2-5 NL, four 5-10 NL, one 40-80 limit, one 200-400 mix)
Encore: 8 tables
Aria: 6 tables
Caessars Palace: 6 tables
Venetian: 4 tables

No other Strip room has more than three tables running.

However, the Orleans (a locals place) is going strong with twenty tables.

How many of those dirty locals at Orleans have Covid? Since testing is so low we don't know but it has to be dozens just in that poker room. As soon as they test one positive there, they will close up also.

Oh my bad it’s all good there.

Looks like most of the big CA rooms are down. Commerce, Bike and Bay 101 also.

Dirty locals? Nice characterization.

The Orleans has so many tables because the jackpot is over 100k.

I am a local, I don't play at The Orleans. They are a different breed than you will find than your average local at strip poker rooms.

See I'm not alone.

If you like Omaha 8 it’s a great place to play with round the clock action and good dealers/customer service. It is a dive but it has character and it’s friendly. My two cents.