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Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread) Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)
View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending.
177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend.
112 20.55%
Probably wont attend.
93 17.06%
Probably will attend.
71 13.03%
Definitely will attend.
92 16.88%

03-04-2020 , 07:48 AM
The slow response in the US is simply our laws. In China they can approve tests, treatments and vaccines without any restrictions. In the US you need to have trials and proof they actually work.

The short response would be to lessen the approval standards for a crisis. However where do you draw the line with regards to loosening government regulations? In China they analyze the phone records of everyone infected and quarantine everyone that person could have encountered.

But back to my original point. You are an abject moron to argue CDC won’t be given additional resources based on budget cuts or charts from previous periods.
03-04-2020 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JackBurton
Washington state is above Nevada in the northwest right and California is to the south? (should open a map to confirm)

It seems ABOUT HALF of the cases are on west of the US not looking good for THE U.S. of A.
FYP

Here's a good map to refer to:
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...23467b48e9ecf6
03-04-2020 , 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
The slow response in the US is simply our laws. In China they can approve tests, treatments and vaccines without any restrictions. In the US you need to have trials and proof they actually work.

The short response would be to lessen the approval standards for a crisis. However where do you draw the line with regards to loosening government regulations? In China they analyze the phone records of everyone infected and quarantine everyone that person could have encountered.

But back to my original point. You are an abject moron to argue CDC won’t be given additional resources based on budget cuts or charts from previous periods.
Actually, in China they simply quarantine EVERYONE. Schools, businesses, factories, transportation, etc. were all shut down by the government for tens of millions of people. That will occur in the U.S. (and elsewhere) in many cases for public institutions (schools, government buildings and such), but the rest will occur on a sporadic volunteer basis. We are liable in this country to for the spread of infection on a larger order of magnitude than in China. The one thing we've got going for us at the moment is that there was a much longer period of no quarantine in China. Health officials, as well as individuals, are much quicker now to impose isolation of the sick.

Last edited by PokerXanadu; 03-04-2020 at 08:13 AM.
03-04-2020 , 10:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
Smarten up.

You’re analyzing articles and charts of something pre crisis.

There is no shortage of funding to deploy as many resources as possible to fight this virus. Period.
I read one paragraph of one article on the subject, it had this to say about it:

"The Trump administration recently requested $2.5 billion in emergency funds to prepare the U.S. for a possible widespread outbreak of coronavirus. Critics, though, are pointing out that money might not be necessary if the administration hadn’t spent the past two years largely dismantling government units that were designed to protect against pandemics."

I mean do you think it would be nice if they didn't slash budgets to start things before pandemics break out? I'm just shooting my load here, and perhaps being a bit results oriented, but it might be nice. You know, just in case something were to happen.

Last edited by rakemeplz; 03-04-2020 at 10:59 AM. Reason: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=55875930
03-04-2020 , 12:17 PM
"First U.S. Casino Closes Over Coronavirus Outbreak
Wildhorse Resort And Casino In Oregon Close After Employee Tested Positive"

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...virus-concerns

"Poker Pros Wager On Whether Coronavirus Outbreak Will Cancel The WSOP In Las Vegas;
Doug Polk, Mike McDonald, and Dan O'Brien Among Pros Willing To Bet That The Summer Series Will Be Canceled"

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...eries-of-poker
03-04-2020 , 01:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rakemeplz
I read one paragraph of one article on the subject, it had this to say about it:

"The Trump administration recently requested $2.5 billion in emergency funds to prepare the U.S. for a possible widespread outbreak of coronavirus. Critics, though, are pointing out that money might not be necessary if the administration hadn’t spent the past two years largely dismantling government units that were designed to protect against pandemics."

I mean do you think it would be nice if they didn't slash budgets to start things before pandemics break out? I'm just shooting my load here, and perhaps being a bit results oriented, but it might be nice. You know, just in case something were to happen.
So one author's assertion of "critics" hearsay is enough to take as a gospel fact.

Libtard Media will make that case if only the rate of increase in spending was reduced.
03-04-2020 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
So one author's assertion of "critics" hearsay is enough to take as a gospel fact.
You aren't seriously disputing that Trump shut down the CDC pandemic response unit?

May 10, 2018 at 1:32 p.m. PDT

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The top White House official responsible for leading the U.S. response in the event of a deadly pandemic has left the administration, and the global health security team he oversaw has been disbanded under a reorganization by national security adviser John Bolton.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...xits-abruptly/
03-04-2020 , 01:37 PM
Lawmakers minutes ago just approved $7billion in emergency Coronavirus funding
03-04-2020 , 01:43 PM
03-04-2020 , 01:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
The slow response in the US is simply our laws. In China they can approve tests, treatments and vaccines without any restrictions. In the US you need to have trials and proof they actually work.

The short response would be to lessen the approval standards for a crisis. However where do you draw the line with regards to loosening government regulations? In China they analyze the phone records of everyone infected and quarantine everyone that person could have encountered.
"Under section 564 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act), the FDA Commissioner may allow unapproved medical products or unapproved uses of approved medical products to be used in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions caused by CBRN threat agents when there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives."

FDA: Emergency Use Authorization

Was authorized for COVID-19 a month ago.
03-04-2020 , 02:26 PM
If the death rate is under 1% as South Korea's data suggests might be true then I don't think they'll bend too many regulations to rush treatments and a vaccine. If it stays close to the 3.4% that WHO said it's currently at then we'll see all kinds of corners cut to get something out to the public ASAP.

The bad news for South Korea is their recovered number is less than 1% of total positives so they're still very early in the outbreak. They're testing on a scale that might literally be more than the rest of the world combined if you exclude China.

Italy has healthcare at least as good as the US and is running at 3% right now with more than 50 deaths just in the last two days.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Last edited by Palo; 03-04-2020 at 02:35 PM.
03-04-2020 , 02:59 PM
It's just one more one-outer to fade on the way to the bracelet imo.
03-04-2020 , 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
Smarten up.
Gosh, I'll try, dad.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
You’re analyzing articles and charts of something pre crisis.
As was the poster you originally replied to.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
There is no shortage of funding to deploy as many resources as possible to fight this virus. Period.
There certainly shouldn't be, and I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
The slow response in the US is simply our laws. In China they can approve tests, treatments and vaccines without any restrictions. In the US you need to have trials and proof they actually work.

The short response would be to lessen the approval standards for a crisis. However where do you draw the line with regards to loosening government regulations? In China they analyze the phone records of everyone infected and quarantine everyone that person could have encountered.
OK, I'm no expert on this, but I wouldn't expect the lag in testing would be due to laws. Treatments and vaccines, sure. We would have similar regimes up here, and I haven't heard of any issues with testing. In our province of 5 million, our Premier claimed last week that we had tested more people than the entire United States had to that point - apparently 1,012 here vs. 459 as of Feb. 27th. That number blew me away - 459??

Whether the US being slow off the mark with testing is a funding issue or not, I couldn't say. But I find it highly doubtful that it's attributable to laws alone, if at all.

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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
But back to my original point. You are an abject moron to argue CDC won’t be given additional resources based on budget cuts or charts from previous periods.
Cool. Unless I missed something, I think this is a straw man.
03-04-2020 , 03:36 PM
California authorities report first death from the new coronavirus in state

"LOS ANGELES (AP) — Six new cases of the coronavirus have been confirmed in Los Angeles County, where there was one previously, officials said Wednesday."

https://www.fox5vegas.com/coronaviru...bbc782269.html



New Hampshire Coronavirus Patient Breaks Quarantine to Attend Dartmouth Event

https://time.com/5795405/new-hampshi...inkId=83620122
03-04-2020 , 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
The slow response in the US is simply our laws. In China they can approve tests, treatments and vaccines without any restrictions. In the US you need to have trials and proof they actually work.

The short response would be to lessen the approval standards for a crisis. However where do you draw the line with regards to loosening government regulations? In China they analyze the phone records of everyone infected and quarantine everyone that person could have encountered.

But back to my original point. You are an abject moron to argue CDC won’t be given additional resources based on budget cuts or charts from previous periods.

Please point me towards the law which would be holding up testing.
03-04-2020 , 03:52 PM
Hey peeps I have some very funny facts for you:

Everything comes from Wuhan!
Everyones iPhone comes from Wuhan
The masks and gear that they need made in wuhan ( hard to get now)
Even the top official virus lab is in Wuhan.

I had wondered that this city had 20 million people

All they do is produce iPhones and stuff
Literally everything is made there.
03-04-2020 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
One positive note: This pandemic might spur some U.S. state governments and Indian tribes to fast track online gambling (including poker), as the social paradigm shifts further away from live venues.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffy68
Yeah, sure, priority #1 during a pandemic is always online poker.
This little exchange captures this thread (and probably most other online threads) in a nutshell.

At no point did PokerXanadu say it's priority #1, nor #2 nor #1592, nor that it's even a "priority" at all. He only said it's a possible upside.

Somewhere in our social discourse, when one person says "Y is not X," someone will immediately take that to mean "Y is the extreme polar opposite of X."
03-04-2020 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
It is looking like Triton and the WSOP are the least of our problems. We're talking the end of our species as we know it.
Please tell me you're trolling, I refuse to believe people can really be this dumb.
03-04-2020 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 8gameisfun
Please tell me you're trolling, I refuse to believe people can really be this dumb.
No, Registered2018 is a different species than the rest of us.
03-04-2020 , 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8gameisfun
Please tell me you're trolling, I refuse to believe people can really be this dumb.
lol that statement was awesome. If anything it seems this virus would make us much stronger as a species by the time it runs its course.
03-04-2020 , 05:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Registered 2018
The temperatures in Las Vegas during the SUPER DRY summer is 111 degrees.

If it becomes scientifically proven that high heat kills the CoronaVirus THEN the Las Vegas economy will experience its biggest boom ever once people EXODUS from wherever it is they come from and flee to Las Vegas for safety...
I don't know about heat but the below website on the Coronavirus says Vitamin D could play an important role in dealing with the virus. Sunshine creates vitamin D in our bodies and we know Vegas has a lot of sunshine. The video starts to talk about Vitamin D and the virus at the 2:30 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmqgGwT6bw0
03-04-2020 , 05:43 PM
I mean Vitamin D is directly correlated with how effective your immune system is, so naturally vitamin D would be important
03-04-2020 , 06:04 PM
AFP Factcheck: Health experts say there is no evidence vitamin D is effective in preventing novel coronavirus infection.
I think I'll listen to what WHO epidemioliogists say ("wash your hands"), instead of a random youtuber. That said, there is widespread vitamin D deficiency in the western world, because people (including me) spend too much time playing online poker in their basements instead of going outside, so taking a supplement is often advised by medical professionals.
03-04-2020 , 06:16 PM
A year or so ago I went to the doctor for something and they ran a bunch of blood tests and luckily all was good but he said I had a vitamin D deficiency. Every since then I take D3 5000 IU 1 per day.
03-04-2020 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
A year or so ago I went to the doctor for something and they ran a bunch of blood tests and luckily all was good but he said I had a vitamin D deficiency. Every since then I take D3 5000 IU 1 per day.
Did it work?

      
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