Part of the problem with "government-funded media" is that the actual definition has two components to it, not just funding but also editorial involvement.

That 'may' is doing a lot of the heavy lifting here because for instance the CBC gets funding but is completely editorially independent.

What Poilievre did was effective use the one side of the equation "government funded" to attack the editorial part, calling the CBC just trudeau propaganda and disinformation. This is why the label is so bad. Because the one label does two things at the same time - one of which is true and one of which is false - it creates this really confusing state that is amplified when politicians like Poilievre explicitly lie about that confusion.

The Harper government funded the CBC for a decade, did you similarly conclude they were doing Harper propaganda during that time?

Thankfully, they actually are editorially completely independent from the government unlike say RT or whatever else and so their consistently low-bias, factual news coverage doesn't skew one way or the other based on which govenrment happens to be in power.

We all knew the whataboutisms were coming, I'm impressed you managed to hold off so long.

Actually it is a pretty direct counterpoint to the nonsense you believe and are posting. It is not a Lozen style whatabout Hunter's laptop vs Trump's insurrection or Don Lemon said a mean thing vs FOX's 9 figure lawsuit issue, rather it is a direct point that you only have these derpy beliefs because you have been sold a bad bill of sale and the same lies would not be pitched to you if a conservative government was in power despite the same situation existing with CBC and government funding. If conservatives were in charge the Alpha derp Musk would not bother with the silly labels in that case, and the mid level political derp would find something else to lie about so the CBC government funding thing would be a non issue for you in that situation as your Twitter feed would tell you different things you need and want to believe.

All the best.

Then why this article was at the top of the page this morning ?
Yes sorry in French but clearly this isn’t good at all for trudeau …..

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...-green-ethique

Radio Canada /cbc don’t prevent themselves to put government in trouble while many private medias would ….

Lol, I know you guys struggle with the concept of whataboutisms but a simple test of whether you would apply the same outlandish claims when your nemesis isn't the one in power isn't a whataboutism. It's a test of basic logical consistency. One you just failed.

Even if that was a whataboutism (it wasn't), there is only one true whatabot in this thread. Your attempt to recycle my joke was...lacking.

Because who cares what Harper did? It was almost a decade ago and the last 3 conservative leaders all campaigned on defunding the CBC

The landscape has changed and traditional media outlets are no longer non-partisan. They are a dying industry surviving by feeding whatever side is their audience. Even Tom Muclair says the CBC is bias towards the liberals:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/tom-...-cbc-1.6360448

Harper was one of the most opaque prime miniter ever.
He didnt want anyone speak agasint his government and was to ready to do anything in his power to do so.

defunding press he did.
preventing scientist to speak to the press he did.
cutting funding of organisations that goes against his ideology he did.
the list is long.
prevent many of his own deputies to speak about certain politics, he did.

and it certainly wasnt to be unbiais he did those thing, he did it to control his ideological message without interference from the truth...

And then u try u are for defending free press and liberty admiring harper actions ????

Let me ask you this did Harper ever suggest licensing the media and he decides who gets the licenses ?

I was never a fan of Harper by the way . Only voted for him the first time

Ah good, glad to know that the CBC being government propaganda only extends as far back as the most recent prime minister. Not a coincidence at all!

The mulcair piece doesn't exactly match any of the histrionics of propaganda and disinformation being spouted by your guy. Consider the smoking gun from that piece:
Well.....ya? That's completely true? Like sure, maybe one can make some argument that this is inappropriate and she should rise above the disgusting attacks by Poilievre that harm our democracy and not point out that he is stoking them. But this doesn't remotely come close to any of the statements from Poilievre that even lozen thinks are false.

https://torontoguardian.com/2019/05/...d-to-cbc-news/

https://thetyee.ca/News/2016/04/27/C...ember-Resigns/

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/cana...205019406.html

Now that foxnews decided to settle.
Do u think twitter will put a small warning for foxnews bias on what they publish even tho they arent government funded ?

Again, who cares? Maybe it was bias, I didn't even follow politics when Harper was in. I think I voted Liberal once during his time and didn't vote the other elections because I was into Bitcoin/Libertarianism. Every politician I voted for since Trudeau took power campaigned to defund the CBC though.



I think I missed your post condemning Trudeau for calling anti-vaxxers extremists who don't believe in science and are misogynistic and often racist.

Frig, if they did I'd definitely post a lot defending Fox News and bashing Elon.

u would condemn elon for actually doing the right thing on a proved media lying purposely to put a warning onit like foxnews but not for making an assumption for cbc just because he got funding from the government ?

u just make no sense at all if u really care about non bias media.

You do in as much as it was an issue of the day that the alpha derp passed along to be consumed. You just do not like it when the hypocrisy of it is exposed, which is when you go into who cares/just asking questions/keeping it real mode. that we have seen over and over and over.

All the best.

Hmmm no criticism of opinion pieces when the lefties use them ?

No idea what you are talking about with this latest whatabout of yours, but feel free to link the specific lefty opinion piece that you are talking about. Thanks in advance.

Last thing the Liberals want is a national strike. This could be a long one

Washington Post breaks story that Justin Trudeau said Canada will never meet the 2% goal for NATO

The funny thing is that you actually believe this only happens on the right.

Funny polievre is on the union side hoping the government increase 9billions of debt to pay for what the union goes to strike for ?

Maybe polievre transforming himself in a pro union socialist ?
It’s refreshing …

Politic strategies from populist far right wing .
- always take the opposite side of your opponents ideas
- empty all nuances and reduce the ideas/situations to a bare minimum
- throw in a gotcha sentence in it to make u look brillant , even tho it goes against your own policies
- $$ profits from the cultists

Polievre/trump strategy

Let's call it the opposition strategy and for the liberals

Their gonna ban abortion

The left doesn't like it as it's working with such an incompetent PM