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06-27-2023 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Now that lozen has invalidated himself on speaking about climate, let’s switch to the economy! Todays 3.4% inflation rate is lowest in the entire G7 except for Japan. Thanks Trudeau!
Yet food rose by 7% . Fuel costs drove down that number .
Though any reduction in inflation is a good thing .
Sadly the bank of Canada is set to raise interest rates again next month
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06-27-2023 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Not allowing anymore pipelines
Making companies go through all the requirements to develop and meet all the requirements than failing to act forcing companies to walk away
Allowing more pipeline isn’t just trudeau decision .
Regulation is a necessity in many instance because counting on the private sector to the right thing is the funniest beliefs ever …..
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06-27-2023 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Yet food rose by 7% . Fuel costs drove down that number .
Though any reduction in inflation is a good thing .
Sadly the bank of Canada is set to raise interest rates again next month
How u expect inflation to go down if not by raising interest rates ?
Why u are against interest going up ?
Again double talk by you …..
U complain about inflation but u complain on the dollar going higher to reduce inflation?

Yes food is still high u know why ?
Because the food created this year was planted last year (the porc u eat this year was fed with high commodities prices last year ,etc)!when oil Was high .
U won’t get the food cheaper then what it was made from ….

U seem to be attentive to see one tree but not he forest on why the tree are the way it is ….
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06-28-2023 , 02:57 AM
We need a carbon tax to save the planet. But everyone also needs a air conditioning unit to end all heat related deaths by 2040. Lol clown show.
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06-28-2023 , 05:06 AM
Yes I would see it as clown show if I could make that connection of the tax carbon and a worldwide distributed AC to prevent death .
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06-28-2023 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
We need a carbon tax to save the planet. But everyone also needs a air conditioning unit to end all heat related deaths by 2040. Lol clown show.
I love how fundamentally dishonest while simultaneously heartless the right wing sources you got this talking point from are. You of course don't link or referring to any facts (kinda like that hilarious 2017 video you tried to show the other day which I have since seen about a dozen times showing how completely circular the right wing derposphere is). Thankfully, I read the news and not twitter agitators which makes it easy to figure out.

What shifty is referring here is Trudeau doing - yet again - significant action on the climate front with the release of the National Adaption Strategy which completely correctly recognizes that climate change is going to happen at some level and that as a country we both have a moral responsibility to act to reduce it (example carbon tax) but ALSO to plan to adapt to a world that is going to warm even if we do everything right. This is a big plan, as it needs to be, and is an important plank.

Ok let's talk about air conditioning specifically. This is close to any BC residents heart after the mass death episode during the 2021 heat dome where hundreds of seniors lost their lives. BC just announced concurrently funding for 8k ACs for low income seniors - those most at risk, and the national strategy builds out this plan. This is all really good things. We should be taking steps to mitigate deaths of largely seniors due to heat waves that are likely to only get worse, and the plan is pretty sensible in it's suggestions. This whole thing hahah gotcha lol why need AC if you have a carbon tax schtick just comes off as heartless and stupid and naive. Do better.
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06-28-2023 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
I love how fundamentally dishonest while simultaneously heartless the right wing sources you got this talking point from are. You of course don't link or referring to any facts (kinda like that hilarious 2017 video you tried to show the other day which I have since seen about a dozen times showing how completely circular the right wing derposphere is). Thankfully, I read the news and not twitter agitators which makes it easy to figure out.

What shifty is referring here is Trudeau doing - yet again - significant action on the climate front with the release of the National Adaption Strategy which completely correctly recognizes that climate change is going to happen at some level and that as a country we both have a moral responsibility to act to reduce it (example carbon tax) but ALSO to plan to adapt to a world that is going to warm even if we do everything right. This is a big plan, as it needs to be, and is an important plank.

Ok let's talk about air conditioning specifically. This is close to any BC residents heart after the mass death episode during the 2021 heat dome where hundreds of seniors lost their lives. BC just announced concurrently funding for 8k ACs for low income seniors - those most at risk, and the national strategy builds out this plan. This is all really good things. We should be taking steps to mitigate deaths of largely seniors due to heat waves that are likely to only get worse, and the plan is pretty sensible in it's suggestions. This whole thing hahah gotcha lol why need AC if you have a carbon tax schtick just comes off as heartless and stupid and naive. Do better.
You do realize as newly BC resident got my DL and Insurance and my Conservation plates this province has more electric power than it needs so adding AC units is not an issue. Though for many other areas in Canada and the USA there is a shortage of power. As it gets hotter more and more people buy air conditioning units that run on 240 Volt power for a full unit. Portables run on 120 Volt but draw alot of power. Were is that power going to come from? Imagine if everyone has an electric car as well ......
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06-28-2023 , 12:48 PM
What an original thought! Yes, when electrical consumption increases, then it should be done with some combination of hydro/tidal/wind/solar/nuclear. Hope that helps. Right now Canadian electrical production is about 18% from fossil fuels, which is better than many countries, but still 18% to go.
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06-28-2023 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
What an original thought! Yes, when electrical consumption increases, then it should be done with some combination of hydro/tidal/wind/solar/nuclear. Hope that helps. Right now Canadian electrical production is about 18% from fossil fuels, which is better than many countries, but still 18% to go.
So show me were they are building these so called power generating stations to meet the demand . Even you have to admit Solar and Wind will not fill the demand . Are there any new nuclear or Hydro projects approved?
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06-28-2023 , 12:54 PM
Um....

Sure, in BC the biggest new hydro project is the site C dam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_C_dam.

Providing increased electrical power isn't completely trivial, but it also isn't an insurmountable challenge either. It just takes the political will to make the investments as opposed to continuing with the small minority of fossil fuel generation that still exists in canada.
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06-28-2023 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Um....

Sure, in BC the biggest new hydro project is the site C dam: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_C_dam.

Providing increased electrical power isn't completely trivial, but it also isn't an insurmountable challenge either. It just takes the political will to make the investments as opposed to continuing with the small minority of fossil fuel generation that still exists in canada.
My apologies I meant outside BC though I do realize they will sell that power at a profit outside BC
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06-28-2023 , 01:05 PM
My goodness the 20 questions with you. Sure, here is a list of current big electricity projects of all sorts of types. Again, there is nothing fundamentally insurmountable about this challenge of "but but but what about more electricity!!!" you bring up. It is expensive, it does take political will, but it can be done. https://canada.constructconnect.com/...a-january-2021
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06-28-2023 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
My goodness the 20 questions with you. Sure, here is a list of current big electricity projects of all sorts of types. Again, there is nothing fundamentally insurmountable about this challenge of "but but but what about more electricity!!!" you bring up. It is expensive, it does take political will, but it can be done. https://canada.constructconnect.com/...a-january-2021
Pre Design that means at least how many years out?

Moral Question

Does Canada have a moral authority to develop green energy and ensure that the products in production of that energy are not used from slave labor or child labor?
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06-28-2023 , 05:30 PM
Ya the Canadian government has a great track record for building/funding these greens projects. Muskrat falls only has 4 turbines and took over 10 years to complete (is it even fully operational yet?) and is almost 8 billion over budget. Meanwhile a company like IOL can build a facility the size of Calgary that produces 200k barrels of oil a day in less than 10 years. Maybe we just need more "political will" lol.
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06-28-2023 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master

Ok let's talk about air conditioning specifically. This is close to any BC residents heart after the mass death episode during the 2021 heat dome where hundreds of seniors lost their lives. BC just announced concurrently funding for 8k ACs for low income seniors - those most at risk, and the national strategy builds out this plan. This is all really good things. We should be taking steps to mitigate deaths of largely seniors due to heat waves that are likely to only get worse, and the plan is pretty sensible in it's suggestions. This whole thing hahah gotcha lol why need AC if you have a carbon tax schtick just comes off as heartless and stupid and naive. Do better.

Ya because the few hundred people that die from heat each year is a huge problem for the government to try and solve and should be top priority! I guess it's summer time and announcing the end of cold deaths which is higher than heat deaths doesn't sound as good in the summer.

~4k people die a year from alcohol, it's a much more local problem to Canadians then the global climate. Morally Canada has a responsibility to ban alcohol. The whole we need to save the planet while still allowing alcohol to be sold is heartless.
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06-28-2023 , 06:17 PM
Dying from heat tends to be less voluntary for the victims than dying from booze, but hey why let a little detail like that get in the way of a derpy redirection attempt! You should really find and toss in a Twitter comment that supports you from a biased person with no followers and then claim you do not research your sources as per tradition when that is mentioned.

All the best.
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06-28-2023 , 06:26 PM
Who knew that low income seniors having access to AC during heat waves so they don't die was going to piss off the conservatives ITT? I suppose of course, in retrospect.

The alcohol comparison is nonsensical. The government has all sorts of programs to help support alcoholism and reduce deaths due to alcohol, arguably they should be doing even more. Going lololol alcohol as some sort of inept comparison for why we shouldn't care about heat waves is just ridiculous.
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06-28-2023 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Moral Question
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Morally Canada has a responsibility to ban alcohol. .
Oh you two, so clever. Except, lozen, remember that YOU agreed Canada has a moral responsibility to act. So trying to play this game where you throw my words back at me doesn't help you when you agreed!
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06-28-2023 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Oh you two, so clever. Except, lozen, remember that YOU agreed Canada has a moral responsibility to act. So trying to play this game where you throw my words back at me doesn't help you when you agreed!
Of course you will not answer this question. It's amazing you ask the questions but refuse to answer reasonable questions
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06-28-2023 , 06:59 PM
Sorry, doing every one of your whataboutism gotcha attempts is tiresome. No, lozen, I'm not pro slave labour. Great question.
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06-28-2023 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Ya the Canadian government has a great track record for building/funding these greens projects. Muskrat falls only has 4 turbines and took over 10 years to complete (is it even fully operational yet?) and is almost 8 billion over budget. Meanwhile a company like IOL can build a facility the size of Calgary that produces 200k barrels of oil a day in less than 10 years. Maybe we just need more "political will" lol.
yes thx to your conservative pal harper trying to win votes.
everyone knew it shouldnt be done but those votes was important to him....
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06-28-2023 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
The alcohol comparison is nonsensical. The government has all sorts of programs to help support alcoholism and reduce deaths due to alcohol,arguably they should be doing even more. Going lololol alcohol as some sort of inept comparison for why we shouldn't care about heat waves is just ridiculous.
The government also has all sorts of programs for rebates for heater and A/C units. I'm not going lololol alcohol. If you think Canada has a moral responsibility to slow down fossil fuels and eventually ban them because of a looming climate apocalypse and deaths, then morally you should want alcohol banned. Deaths are order of a magnitude higher then climate deaths and have been increasing year after year.
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06-28-2023 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
The government also has all sorts of programs for rebates for heater and A/C units. I'm not going lololol alcohol. If you think Canada has a moral responsibility to slow down fossil fuels and eventually ban them because of a looming climate apocalypse and deaths, then morally you should want alcohol banned. Deaths are order of a magnitude higher than climate deaths and have been increasing year after year.
Lol. So the government already provides incentives for AC programs and you are just hopping mad that Trudeau put in the climate adaption plan that there might need to be more of that as the planet warms?? The horror!

And just lol at trying to paint some inept false equivalence that one must want prohibition of alcohol if one also wants us to tackle climate change.
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06-28-2023 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Lol. So the government already provides incentives for AC programs and you are just hopping mad that Trudeau put in the climate adaption plan that there might need to be more of that as the planet warms?? The horror!
Not hopping mad. Just calling it stupid to announce and for them to pretend they are going to end heat deaths by 2040 just as summer starts.


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Originally Posted by uke_master
And just lol at trying to paint some inept false equivalence that one must want prohibition of alcohol if one also wants us to tackle climate change.
No bro, you have been going on about Canada's moral responsibility and conservatives are heartless because old people died in a nursing home in BC from heat. Climate related deaths are at all time low's while alcohol related deaths continue to increase, morally alcohol is a far bigger issue for Canadians than the global climate.
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06-29-2023 , 12:28 AM
None of your splatter of points make any sense. You are the one that came in and flippantly dismissed the very concept that Canada's national adaption strategy would mention the importance of air conditioning to mitigate heat deaths. That seems like a completely valid and reasonable thing to have in such a strategy. I also separately think we should do more to mitigate alcohol deaths. No idea why you are acting like you've caught anybody but yourself in some big gotcha.

Would you support doubling money to alcohol treatment and prevention programs?
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