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04-17-2023 , 03:57 PM
It is just one derp latching onto another derp in order to monetize other derps. Not sure disgusting is the correct term, it is more the nature of things in that community. I give credit to those who exploit the lowest level derps as well as they do. Mid level derps like Polievre only hope to eventually monetize and exploit derps in the way those above them can do, so can not blame them for trying whenever they can.
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04-17-2023 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
So this happened today.

Medical care is funded by the government.
Are u suspicious of the care u receive too ?

The Justice system must be corrupt to the core as well I suppose ..

And probably the army are in a mission to bring more liberal tyranny as well since it’s jt that pays them .
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04-17-2023 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
That's fine. The whole "government-funded media" label is a bit silly for a few reasons, but sure. However, this is not fine:


It is utterly despicable that your guy is completely conflating "government-funded" which of course is true (and true of many of our for-profit media too) with being "Trudeau propaganda, not news". One can complain about whatever minor bias CBC may or may not have, but this of course is a disgusting lie.

This isn't just a one-off. He early calls it " disinformation and manipulation by state media."



Disgusting.
Polievre -> conspiracists like I said earlier .
Keep going my good man .
Like trump , more he pushes , more he will loses because the majority of Canadians aren’t derps ….
The only voters here will win are those from maxim Bernier which won’t amount much anyway .
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04-17-2023 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Medical care is funded by the government.
Are u suspicious of the care u receive too ?

The Justice system must be corrupt to the core as well I suppose ..
CBC is blatantly bias as Fox and MSNBC . They clearly favor the liberal party and are government funded media to the tune of 1.4 billion a year. Anyone that thinks otherwise guarantee you thinks the Toronto Sun is biased which it is
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04-17-2023 , 04:16 PM
You use the Toronto Sun opinion pieces for many of your "news" sources when they put out articles that you want to read. Not sure what your whatabout point is here, but derpy Musk is not going to give FOX news his derpy label (he does not even give Breitbart that derpy tag), and if he somehow did then those that passively pump their fists here would pretend it never happened.
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04-17-2023 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Medical care is funded by the government.
Are u suspicious of the care u receive too ?

The Justice system must be corrupt to the core as well I suppose ..
Yes.
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04-17-2023 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Yes.
So what isnt corrupt ?
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04-17-2023 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
It is just one derp latching onto another derp in order to monetize other derps. Not sure disgusting is the correct term, it is more the nature of things in that community. I give credit to those who exploit the lowest level derps as well as they do. Mid level derps like Polievre only hope to eventually monetize and exploit derps in the way those above them can do, so can not blame them for trying whenever they can.
How many figures do you think you'll win next election betting against the "derps".
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04-17-2023 , 04:18 PM
Ha OF COURSE lozen buys Poilevre's lines hook, line, and sinker. And that is part of why it is so disappointing. Whatever one thinks of the editorial slant of the CBC, they are clearly not Trudeau propaganda, clearly are news, clearly aren't " disinformation and manipulation by state media". Every single time you have a panel of three guests (one Liberal, one conservative, one NDP) those guests are editorially independent from the government, even if the CBC gets funding. You can note like the editorial coverage of the CBC while still being on the same basic planet that they are an editorially independent news organization not at all in the same universe as Peterson's quoted communist era Pravda.

Yet a whole political party of lozens is being taught by their leader that no the CBC can't be trust as a basic news source that broadly speaking accurately represents the statements of the three parties at all times. They are being taught that it is just propaganda. Sickening.
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04-17-2023 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
How many figures do you think you'll win next election betting against the "derps".
Lots. Derps are always very -EV in their beliefs and expectations and behavior. It is one of the reasons why they are big targets for everyone for monetization. Just math in the end. A quick example would be in the 2024 election thread here where some derps replied when I asked who will win the Republican nomination. They loudly and proudly said Desantis will and is the big favorite to do so. He is right now bigger than a 2-1 underdog so find enough derps like that who bet their beliefs and arbitrage them. Guaranteed money. That is what derps are for. In 2020 the betting sites exploited them even after the election was done.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-gambling.html

I just wish I had more ways to monetize them, which is why I always respect those that do it as a full time job. Great business model once they get any kind of traction.

All the best.

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04-17-2023 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
CBC is blatantly bias as Fox and MSNBC . They clearly favor the liberal party and are government funded media to the tune of 1.4 billion a year. Anyone that thinks otherwise guarantee you thinks the Toronto Sun is biased which it is
Maybe they just favour the truth at the expense of those that love to believe in conspiracies ….
FoxNews finally getting debunked.
Others will follow .
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04-17-2023 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
You use the Toronto Sun opinion pieces for many of your "news" sources when they put out articles that you want to read. Not sure what your whatabout point is here, but derpy Musk is not going to give FOX news his derpy label (he does not even give Breitbart that derpy tag), and if he somehow did then those that passively pump their fists here would pretend it never happened.
Fox news isnt government funded CBC is I think much af CDN news media is but not to the tune of 1.4 billion
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04-17-2023 , 04:24 PM
Let's do some basic media literacy 101. The top story on cbc right now under politics is this: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nat...nato-1.6811632. The article covers a letter criticizing the Trudeau government's spending on defense.

Lozen/Poilievre would have us believe this is Trudeau Propaganda, that it isn't news, but is actually disinformation. Can you please identify why precisely this is pro-Trudeau propaganda?
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04-17-2023 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Ha OF COURSE lozen buys Poilevre's lines hook, line, and sinker. And that is part of why it is so disappointing. Whatever one thinks of the editorial slant of the CBC, they are clearly not Trudeau propaganda, clearly are news, clearly aren't " disinformation and manipulation by state media". Every single time you have a panel of three guests (one Liberal, one conservative, one NDP) those guests are editorially independent from the government, even if the CBC gets funding. You can note like the editorial coverage of the CBC while still being on the same basic planet that they are an editorially independent news organization not at all in the same universe as Peterson's quoted communist era Pravda.

Yet a whole political party of lozens is being taught by their leader that no the CBC can't be trust as a basic news source that broadly speaking accurately represents the statements of the three parties at all times. They are being taught that it is just propaganda. Sickening.
I actually enjoy those panels and I do believe Vassy is on CBC and I trust her and a few others but lets be clear CBC is government funded media to say anything else is a lie

From the guy that believes Justin Trudeau is a climate change PM and that the liberals did not accept chinese interference in the election.
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04-17-2023 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
lets be clear CBC is government funded media to say anything else is a lie
No one is disputing that CBC receives government funding, they're disputing things like Poilievre's assertion of "disinformation and manipulation by state media" or your own assertion that "CBC is blatantly bias as Fox and MSNBC . They clearly favor the liberal party...", which it seems you're now dodging.

This appears to be a common tactic of yours, to state something controversial along with something obviously true (CBC funded by government), and then when you're challenged on the controversial statement, you fall back on defending the obviously true part and ignore the rest.
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04-17-2023 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
Fox news isnt government funded CBC is I think much af CDN news media is but not to the tune of 1.4 billion
NPR gets less than 1% of its funding from the government, yet they got the derpy Musk tag so if a FOX station gets a local $1,000 grant should they then get the tag? What is the cutoff in your opinion for this derpy dude to toss around a derpy tag that his passive derps cheer about? You seriously think this dude tossing out tags as he sees fit as he runs Twitter in the ground is meaningful of anything other than an alpha derp appealing to his derps?

Also, as Bobo said - you do this behavior routine over and over and over and over. Perhaps it brings you comfort but it is one of the reasons why your opinions never get any traction.

All the best.
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04-17-2023 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
No one is disputing that CBC receives government funding, they're disputing things like Poilievre's assertion of "disinformation and manipulation by state media" or your own assertion that "CBC is blatantly bias as Fox and MSNBC . They clearly favor the liberal party...", which it seems you're now dodging.

This appears to be a common tactic of yours, to state something controversial along with something obviously true (CBC funded by government), and then when you're challenged on the controversial statement, you fall back on defending the obviously true part and ignore the rest.
Couldn’t say it better .
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04-17-2023 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
lets be clear CBC is government funded media to say anything else is a lie
Would you say the following to statements about the CBC are thus lies?

"Trudeau propaganda, not news. "
"disinformation and manipulation by state media""
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04-17-2023 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Let's do some basic media literacy 101. The top story on cbc right now under politics is this: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nat...nato-1.6811632. The article covers a letter criticizing the Trudeau government's spending on defense.

Lozen/Poilievre would have us believe this is Trudeau Propaganda, that it isn't news, but is actually disinformation. Can you please identify why precisely this is pro-Trudeau propaganda?
Because 1 article 1 day proves other wise? What if Elon is privy to information we are not, perhaps CBC Twitter and the liberal government? But is this really a big deal, people seem to be really freaking out about this, everyone already knows they are government funded media.
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04-17-2023 , 05:08 PM
If Elon was privy to something super duper secret he would say it and show it to prove his point. The guy aint subtle with his derp content. Thing is - he does not have to. If he has nothing but his derpy opinions then you will not change your outlook, nor care, since Musk is just "keeping it real" or "telling it like it is" or something. That is why you are already trying to do with the "why is everyone freaking out" routine that we see over and over and over after a rando says something that is inane and gets called out for it. Next you can say "hey, I am just asking questions" or something like that to stay on message. Yawn.

All the best.
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04-17-2023 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Because 1 article 1 day proves other wise? What if Elon is privy to information we are not, perhaps CBC Twitter and the liberal government? But is this really a big deal, people seem to be really freaking out about this, everyone already knows they are government funded media.
You're doing the exact same thing lozen just did. The post you're responding to isn't about Elon and Twitter branding CBC as government funded. Elon doesn't need any information we don't have - everyone knows CBC receive lots of government funding. The post is about assertions that CBC is "Trudeau Propaganda, that it isn't news, but is actually disinformation".
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04-17-2023 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Would you say the following to statements about the CBC are thus lies?

"Trudeau propaganda, not news. "
"disinformation and manipulation by state media""
I would agree those are not true but let's be clear when shifty posted that Elon Musk interview I said I am no fan boy of Elon as he said he wanted to restore free speech to the internet

Though he is not giving any misinformation by stating the CBC is government funded media . Did he label the BBC that as well.
I am not on Twitter I may have an account but have never used it

Here is another truth the CBC and Fox and MSNBC have some talented journalists but they are biased to a certain political party
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04-17-2023 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I would agree those are not true but let's be clear when shifty posted that Elon Musk interview I said I am no fan boy of Elon as he said he wanted to restore free speech to the internet

Though he is not giving any misinformation by stating the CBC is government funded media . Did he label the BBC that as well.
I am not on Twitter I may have an account but have never used it

Here is another truth the CBC and Fox and MSNBC have some talented journalists but they are biased to a certain political party
Do you really believe bias exist only with government funded medias ( actually in everything ) or bias can exist in the private sector too ?

The only way to distinguish the two is the amount of bias it publish.
Thinking cbc is as much bias then Fox News and others , for political purposes is totally wrong .

And having a warning for cbc but not on fox for bias or manipulated information just because it get some funding from the government while the private sector isn’t subject to the same problem because it’ s funded by the private sector is totally unfair and a joke .
It should be judge first by the content .

I mean just look at politics in the US and tell me the private sector do not hold big chunk of the politics agenda ….

Ps: it’s funny in foxnews some anchors said they don’t believe in their crazy stories -> what u think it means if it’s not thinking their viewers are crazy themselves for asking even more garbage ….
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04-17-2023 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
I would agree those are not true but let's be clear when shifty posted that Elon Musk interview I said I am no fan boy of Elon as he said he wanted to restore free speech to the internet

Though he is not giving any misinformation by stating the CBC is government funded media .
Buddy, those aren't Elon Musk quotes. Those lies are from your buddy, Pierre Poilievre. The problem isn't that Elon Musk labelled the CBC government funded (although that is a bit silly given how many other Canadian outlets also get some level of govenrment funding while also being editorially independent). It is the disgusting lies smeered by the Poilievre that the CBC is somehow not news but instead manipulative, disinformation and Trudeau propaganda. When pressed you seem to realize all of these statements are lies, but it shouldn't take a dozen posts.

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Here is another truth the CBC and Fox and MSNBC have some talented journalists but they are biased to a certain political party
The funny thing with this half-way-to-Poilievre type claims is that the CBC is almost crippled with its "all sides" type of false neutrality. They are far more likely to have representatives from each party or quotes form each party and uncritically gives each of those sort of equal representation and legitimacy, even when one side - like Poilievre - is clearly and egregiously lying.
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04-17-2023 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
Because 1 article 1 day proves other wise? What if Elon is privy to information we are not, perhaps CBC Twitter and the liberal government? But is this really a big deal, people seem to be really freaking out about this, everyone already knows they are government funded media.
The 1 article is pretty compelling evidence against the disgusting lies of Pierre that the CBC isn't news but Trudeau propaganda full of disinformation and manipulation. If that was true, why would they have this article directly criticizing the government?

While the "government funded media" label is pretty for a few reasons (like that most Canadian money gets some money from the government and it can be falsely interpretted as implying a lack of editorial independence), the issue is far more the lies that poilievre puts on top of that. Government funded doesn't mean Trudeau propaganda in any but the most extreme far right's minds.

Hold on, do YOU agree with Poilievre?
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