Amazing. Your own quoted article is a fact-check against the very anti-vax conspiracy you just got caught red handed spreading. Note that this article says basically the same thing I've already quoted at you:

Hopefully you now will realize you got utterly duped and all that remains is you being mad at trudeau for minor disagreements on word choice.

You realize that was what he called his biggest beef ever with him...

Whatever minor irritation with Trudeau, real or imagined, is current in his mind probably is perceived as the biggest beef ever.

I'm still curious how all the anti-vaxxers who never got vaccinated were apparently forced to get vaccinated? hmm...

Well let's explore this. First off all the federal government only had the power over limited areas such as air travel, train travel, federal employees. It obviously had no jurisdiction over restaurants or hospitals those were provincial.
So let me ask you this could you fly without being vaccinated? Could you get on a train without a vaccine?
Could you continue in your federal employment without a vaccine ? Could you serve in parliament as a liberal without a vaccine ?
If the answer is no than your forced to get the vaccine if you wish to engage in any of those.

And again I have no issue with him deciding on those policies but than own them

Just zero acknowledgement you totally screwed up with an anti-vaxxer line, got caught, and your own source disproved your statement?

Just going to move on to faux anger about phraseology of whether travel restriction count as “forcing” people to get vaccines?

A lot of people reluctantly got the vaccine to continue being able to work and provide for their families. Also do things like travel, go to the gym, go to restaurants, play sports, etc. Majority of the people I know all say they regret getting vaccinated.

Have you received your 4th COVID vaccine yet?

Indeed. Well, I dunno about "a lot" but this did exist. Personally I wouldn't call that forced given how the anti-vaxxers never got vaccinated, but certainly nobody is denying that these policies were in place. Ultimately I don't really care what you call it, but nobody is "lying" about this, everyone agrees about the basic laws that were put in place, it's just a stupid faux debate about what words to call that.


Sounds like you are one of those people. Pity. I have no doubt that your friend group is full of the types that "regret" getting vaccinated, despite the now years of evidence of vaccines being safe and effective such that those early claims of not enough evidence no longer work.

You've asked me this before. Yes, as all responsible people should, I've gotten my 4th vaccine. I also GASP get the flu shot every year, again something all responsible people should do. Hilarious that you think this is a gotcha.

Why they regret being vaccinated ?
Do they regret taking a Tylenol after having an headache ?

Figure next they will mock people who get their kids the polio and measles vaccine, while still claiming to not be anti-vaxx. I mean they are "forced" to do that by many municipalities and schools! No doubt they are buddies with people who regret caving into such evil policies.

I know many that have not gotten their third vaccine and I bet even on this board very few have gotten their fourth .
I stopped at 3 that doesn't make me irresponsible when the vaccine does not prevent transmission or catching COVID

No one is mocking anyone for getting vaccinated . We are questioning weather folks were forced to get the vaccine as Justin Trudeau says he never forced anyone . No one is saying Justin forced everyone

So I finally had more time to look into this story and even though the judge looking into this said no further action should be required I differ. Politicians should be held to a higher standard and I would understand why someone would call for her to resign or not vote for her . Personally I think she should resign . No politician should interfere in a ongoing criminal investigation. Heck if she commits two more ethics violations she will catch up to the climate phony serial liar

I would wager that Shifty asking someone if they got their 4th vaccine is not out of genuine concern for their health, rather a snarky way of suggesting the person getting it is a sheeple. How would you interpret comments like that? I ask not expecting an answer of course, since the answer is obvious and counters your "noone is mocking anyone" point.


Yeah, your biggest beef ever thingy where you are trying very very hard to stretch language to suit your fairly crazed anti-Trudeau agenda. We know, we get it, you complain about him all the time, so your "questioning" kind of loses value given the sheer volume and often times irrational nature of it most of the time.

From the article YOU published and from your government respectively:

Kind of amazing the degree to which you just blindly insist on repeating your pet anti-vax theory in the face of contradictory evidence. That said, it's not like any evidence will ever convince a flat earther that the earth is round. It's kinda funny because like a better version of you could talk about how the epidemiology has shifted after the omicron wave and that the combination of waning immunity and high rates of natural infection that the gap between vaccinated and non-vaccinated is now much lower than it used to be in the delta wave, for instance. But no, you just stick your head in the sand and repeat the bullshit.

Sad.

Buddy, the entire conversation started because washoe said exactly that.

In his post he states Justin Trudeau says he didn't force anyone

washoe can definitely be your guide on the journey you are taking. He has a ton of resources (especially YouTube) of potential things you will want to believe in. Just ask him and he will give it to you, he is pretty good in that regard.

Holy ****, dude. It's one thing if you can't bring yourself to admit you were wrong, but quite another if you're just going to keep repeating the same misinformation.

This particularly lozen-esque tweet is a good example of the nearly daily bending of truth that Poilievre engages in .



Notice firstly how, like Lozen, it is always all about Trudeau. There there is, like lozen, the vague allusion to some past statement that isn't quoted or referred to. Trudeau obviously never told canadians that debt was consequence free, but the truth doesn't really matter her. Then you get the single factor for higher rates today, supposedly Trudeau's deficit spending, which would be all lovely and convenient were it not for the fact that inflation is persistent across the entire west and undoubtedly we would have high inflation even if Trudeau hadn't spent a cent through the pandemic because we still have to import all those now-more-expensive goods from everywhere else.

There are ways to have honest conversations that critique the housing and inflation situation in Canada and put some of the blame for it on Trudeau's shoulders. But this isn't that honest conversation.

You make it sound like I posted that which I never did . I wouldn't know how to post a tweet

Very deceiving of you to try and attribute his comments about its Trudeau's fault . Did you ever hear me blame Trudeau when we were discussing our mortgages

Extremely slimy of you

Are you telling me you also find Poilievre’s tweet grossly dishonest? It sounded just like you to my ears, but if you are going to call it out for what it is I’d applaud you.

But I won’t be waiting.

Drumroll everyone, Poilievre has finally released his climate change plan!!!!! As embarrassing and disqualifying as it has been to not have one this past year, we finally get to evaluate it on its merits. Here's the "plan".

Yikes. So after ripping up the carbon tax and the clean fuel standards he is apparently going to put absolutely no price on carbon in any form. This is enough to not it isn't a serious plan immediately, but what IS he going to do? Well, he makes a nice rhetorical shift to supporting clean energies starting with tidal (and seemingly forgetting about wind and solar entirely). But notice that unlike say Ontario and its feed-in-tarrif system or Biden's many direct investments, this isn't Poilievre suggesting he is going to spend a dime supporting any one of these technologies. Instead, his only suggestion is to gut environmental protections at can sometimes slow down the process.

For instance, with tidal, I presume he can only be talking about the Bay of Fundy projects, which he describes as "Trudeau is killing it", but the challenges in these projects are all about generating tidal power without ravaging the fish ecosystem, and the government is supportive of the projects while wanting to make sure they are sufficiently tested to be protecting the fish. Some recent details here: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ower-1.6848970.

Regardless, the idea that we can make any progress on climate change by just having less environmental regulations on a few fringe projects is utter fantasy.

So in polievre opinion , regulations prevented the alternatives energy to emerge ?

First off no apology for trying to make it look like I posted that earlier

Here is an answer to your question though

I fact checked it and JT did say "Trudeau told Canadians low rates made debt consequence-free."

I think many CDN"s took on more debt than they can handle due to low interest rates but to blame that on Justin I would say no if anything his stress test on mortgages helped to eleviate that

I would say his massive spending did drive up inflation along with a supply chain issue

Its politics and that is what politicians do. I will stress again you never lament on Justin pushing the abortion issue

So would I call his tweet grossly dishonest? No

So your not a fan of his proposed Climate Policy

Lowering the cost of low carbon energy seems like a good idea
Nuclear Power is by far the best way to lower emissions
Tidal Oh it kills fish Doesnt wind kill birds?
Carbon capture is a great idea.

So how do we measure policies on climate change? The only way I know how is emissions? How many years do we give Justin to actually lower emissions?

Isn't it Justin Trudeau that has missed and will miss all his targets ?

How are we going to power all these electric cars when we have no new massive generation stations in the pipeline?