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09-28-2014 , 06:56 PM

#1201

David Sklansky

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Actually every single one of you is racist. Because skin color shouldn't even be discussed as a category.

09-28-2014 , 06:58 PM

#1202

FlyWf

It's the other way

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Mat- "By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will. 'Cos some people that were racist thought they had license to say ******. So, I'm done with that routine." Chris Rock, on that bit you just linked.

09-28-2014 , 07:01 PM

#1203

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

Actually every single one of you is racist. Because skin color shouldn't even be discussed as a category.

Ah yes, the Real Racists are the people who talk about racism. This is a brand new and groundbreaking take that will revolutionize the discussion.

09-28-2014 , 07:01 PM

#1204

Money2Burn

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Even if affirmative action meant that less skilled applicants were getting into med school, how does that ever have any bearing on your doctor's skill?

09-28-2014 , 07:06 PM

#1205

Mat Sklansky

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

interesting. i would be curious to know what he saw/heard exactly that drew him to that conclusion.

it's actually funny to me. if a racist thinks that chris rock has given him permission to be racist and call people ******s, that's pretty ironic, i think.

but he still gets a pass, right? even if he decides the effect wasn't as intended, nobody blames him.

09-28-2014 , 07:11 PM

#1206

BrianTheMick2

Long way to go and a short time to get there.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

Actually every single one of you is racist. Because skin color shouldn't even be discussed as a category.

"Ignore the KKK or you are racist."

09-28-2014 , 07:17 PM

#1207

FoldnDark

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

So anyway, to get back to the titular question, yes, obviously. Look at this ****stick.

Oh, nvm. Thought you wrote something else. Please do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDuker

That reminds me of an old joke I just made up. Racist goes to a clinic. Black doctor comes into the exam room and says "I heard you were asking for me?" Patient looks terrified. "I said I needed a BACK pain doctor!!"

very good!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2

"Ignore the KKK or you are racist."

Mat obv just spitballing today, seems everyone gets it.

09-28-2014 , 07:20 PM

#1208

spanktehbadwookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

Actually every single one of you is racist. Because skin color shouldn't even be discussed as a category.

Human-centricity. Skin color is no more significant than the color of eyes.

There is a just cause to use racial demographics to identify areas of systemic racism. That is a narrow reason to maintain the category for the time being.
Besides that,and to neutrally describe a person's appearance, I totally agree with last sentence of your post.
It is difficult because people do individually maintain a racial identify of themselves. This is not patently mistaken as a person can see themselves as black or white, but still see other people as equal regardless of race.

09-28-2014 , 07:24 PM

#1209

Mat Sklansky

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i'm finding myself more and more agreeing with the hypersensitive wookie/trolly/fly team.

my entire conscious life i've been disturbed by the fact that so many racial minorities are living in poverty and seem to be the primary occupants of housing projects. if language contributes to this inequity, i'm okay making some small changes to my vocabulary.

09-28-2014 , 07:26 PM

#1210

tomdemaine

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Mat,

You are not a racist idiot (in my estimation). Sorry.

09-28-2014 , 07:27 PM

#1211

Mat Sklansky

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Originally Posted by tomdemaine

Mat,

You are not a racist idiot (in my estimation). Sorry.

hold on a minute. i also think thomas sowell makes a lot of sense:

http://townhall.com/columnists/thoma...1805/page/full

09-28-2014 , 07:29 PM

#1212

tomdemaine

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well nobodies perfect.

09-28-2014 , 07:32 PM

#1213

tomdemaine

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About that article, I don't think that many people deny that a welfare trap exists just that the "solution" from the american right (ie cut benefits so people can tough it out) is self serving hypocritical racially charged nonsense that detracts from society in a significant manner.

09-28-2014 , 07:34 PM

#1214

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

i'm finding myself more and more agreeing with the hypersensitive wookie/trolly/fly team.

Please consider joining the sensible PC crowd wing rather than the make stupid accusations wing.

The later may seem more satisfying and even produce some good results but its foundations are rotten.

Quote:

my entire conscious life i've been disturbed by the fact that so many racial minorities are living in poverty and seem to be the primary occupants of housing projects. if language contributes to this inequity, i'm okay making some small changes to my vocabulary.

Language can allow us to live with it complacently. Don't do that either.

09-28-2014 , 07:39 PM

#1215

Mat Sklansky

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

Please consider joining the sensible PC crowd wing rather than the make stupid accusations wing.

The later may seem more satisfying and even produce some good results but its foundations are rotten.

Language can allow us to live with it complacently. Don't do that either.

i agree with you there.

09-28-2014 , 07:43 PM

#1216

sweep single

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

do comedians get a pass?

i really find racial humor funny. all of it. non-whites making fun of whites and whites making fun of non-whites. down the line. i think it brings us all closer together.

You should try this:

09-28-2014 , 07:43 PM

#1217

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

hold on a minute. i also think thomas sowell makes a lot of sense:

http://townhall.com/columnists/thoma...1805/page/full

From the article

Quote:

If increasing your income by $10,000 would cause you to lose $15,000 in government benefits, would you do it?

Is a good point but the left can tackle it. The alternative isn't to remove welfare but to make sure that earning money always makes you better off.

The left in the UK aim to do that. couldn't tell you the figures off-hand but its hardly some impossible task for the left.

Most other problems can be tackled as well without becoming remotely right wing.

09-28-2014 , 07:45 PM

#1218

David Sklansky

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Even if affirmative action meant that less skilled applicants were getting into med school, how does that ever have any bearing on your doctor's skill?

It should have a bearing on your confidence of his skill. But then so should the opposite effect mentioned by BTM.

09-28-2014 , 07:53 PM

#1219

Mat Sklansky

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Originally Posted by sweep single

You should try this:

that was lol funny to me. all of it. the jokes a little, but mostly the guy getting hit in the face.

09-28-2014 , 07:54 PM

#1220

Money2Burn

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Originally Posted by David Sklansky

It should have a bearing on your confidence of his skill. But then so should the opposite effect mentioned by BTM.

He is a doctor, though, not a med student. He had what it took to graduate med school and pass the boards, regardless of whether or not affirmative action helped him get into med school. What am I missing?

09-28-2014 , 07:56 PM

#1221

BrianTheMick2

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

From the article

Is a good point but the left can tackle it. The alternative isn't to remove welfare but to make sure that earning money always makes you better off.

The left in the UK aim to do that. couldn't tell you the figures off-hand but its hardly some impossible task for the left.

Most other problems can be tackled as well without becoming remotely right wing.

As a round man would say "but they haven't tried everything else yet."

09-28-2014 , 07:57 PM

#1222

Anais

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Originally Posted by tomdemaine

well pobodies nerfect.

fyp

Gawd, do you even Simpsons?

09-28-2014 , 08:00 PM

#1223

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky

i agree with you there.

here's a suggestion for the forum rules that allows good moderation and free speech as per now. Its a rough draft

Posters are expected to take extra care not to be offensive to socially disadvantaged or discriminated against groups unless they openly admit to a prejudice against such groups. Extreme cases prohibited as like now.

Mods will behave much as now but the rules for them and everyone dealing with errant posts and posters are to attack them for not conforming with the above rather than to attack the poster