since I play late at night/early mornings, I'm often at broken tables, and I always draw a 2. So I have been put on lists a lot, and I have always been able to take my entire stack to the game when I am called, (including those rare occasions when my stack actually exceeds $600) as long as I don't go to a 1/2 or 1/3 while I'm waiting. I've never had anyone tell me I couldn't. In fact, the first couple of times I was in that situation I asked the supervisor, and was told I could bring the whole stack. I don't even bother asking now, since it's been established.

thank you for the responses. Biggest stack at the table doesn't really come up at hard rock, I think browser is in the right saying its not a big deal and just standard practice. If this happens again I will put up more of a fight, because it seems like I should be able to do that.

+1 to this.... that is the rule. As long as you stay in hold and don't play a hand at ANY other game (this includes Omaha or Stud). Once you enter another game/tournament it's as if you have reset yourself. But if you are at a broken table and have to wait to get in, regardless of stack sizes, your stack should and from what I am familiar with, does play.

now that i think about it, if they didn't allow you to bring your stack, moving tables would be a good way for people to rat-hole.

People do it ALL the time.

Yeah, at the THR, if your table breaks you have the choice of taking whole stack or reducing it down as low as the min buy in. But if you change tables voluntarily, you must only bring up to the max buy in and no more, no matter how large the stack.

That's why we have an amazing number of people who, after they win a huge pot, are suddenly "hungry" and have to go eat, and yet end up at a different table 5 minutes later.

I have done that sometimes by taking a break (usually about 30-60 minutes) and make sure to come back to a different table. If there is a rule against that, I have not seen it.

No rule against it, just bad etiquette to win a big pot and immediately get up, only to end up at another table soon after.

yeah, if there is no rule i don't blame for doing it. this is why at casinos where there is a rule the players are big on enforcing it. i think most of the rooms in canada i've been to have the rule. if you move tables you take all your chips with you. those players want a chance to win that monies.

Even the $70 ticket is $14/hr. Still a pretty nice promotion.

I hit the $100 cash - actually had to wait 1 hour for them to retrieve my monies after I spun. Now THAT is an example of why the promo was poorly run.

Depends on what you mean by "soon after". If I get up and take a break to eat (and cash in my chips) and then come back in 30-60 minutes, I don't think they are going to let me bring my previous stack (if over the max buy-in), so I see no reason to argue with them about that. But I am more than willing to abide by what ever rule they want to enforce.

Winning a big pot and leaving is slightly more complicated. At one table recently, I won a couple of good pots against the same player, and his idea was that I stay as long as needed until he won his money back, not just me staying a reasonable amount of time. Another time I busted out two players (I had quads and they both had boats), and there was not many other chips on the table after that, so I left a few hands later (after being there 5 straight hours at same table).

it's just etiquette, not a rule. if you want to leave, leave. in fact, if i take a big pot and some guy starts talking crap about getting his chips back, i will often pack and move tables take a break just to spite him.

most of the time if i win a large pot and want to leave i'll stay a couple of rounds.

if your opponents don't reload, i think this is a very good reason to move tables. you're obviously not just rat-holing your profits.

The overall problem is that in pre-boom times, most (but not all) people who played a lot realized that we had an unwritten obligation to recreational players to make them feel welcome and thus grow the game. A part of that was not hitting and running for any reason, another was taking your full stack to a new table when you transferred. I remember times where regulars I played with in LV used to say they were leaving in 30 minutes, but if they won a big pot 25 minutes later, they would almost always stay another ~30 minutes. And no real player ever moved tables just to take money out of play. That's just another variation of going south.

That credo no longer lives in most card rooms. It's become every man for himself and damn the long term consequences.

Yes, it's your money, within the rules, etc. etc. etc. But if that's how you govern your actions, you are missing the point.

I have never moved to another table except in cases where I wanted to change games, or I took a meal break (and cashed in chips) and was assigned a new table when I came back, or when I was moved to another table by a poker room employee.

I think people get most upset when a poor player (including those who are normally OK, but are drunk) beats them and then quickly leaves. Personally, when I see a good player win big, I don't mind if they leave with all their chips. I don't like playing against a good player with a big stack. But in general, I think poker players are somewhat delusional in their evaluation of other poker players versus their own ability.

When it comes to transfers, you are not allowed to bring anything above the max buy in at THR. Bringing more is only allowed from a broken table.

That's like saying the swag bag has a retail value of $100, so $20 an hour! A $70 tourney entry is okay for people who might actually play in that tournament anyway. For most 2/5 players, it's not worth their time even as a free entry though.

Also, that's a $50 + $10 + $10. So really worth $50.

Does promo run thru fri night ?

I'm not there now to confirm, but I don't think so. I think the spins earned on Friday 21 Dec from 12:01am to noon today (Friday) that have to be spun by 2pm Friday will end it. The spins by 2pm Friday will be the 12th day of spins, and it was the 12 days of Xmas promo.

Yeah the last day of the promo was today.

My 11 days were like this:
Ipod
3 swag bags
1 sunglasses
3 100.00
3 dinner 4 two.

Im going to use the dinners for a pair of oakley sunglasses in the gift shop for 120.00 So overall im pretty satisfied with my promo results.

I do miss these days. Poker has become such a spiteful game, far from the gentleman's game it once was.

That said, I think the hard rock has always been a haven for that type of behavior though. Much different than the rooms where everyone knows eachother.

I agree with alot of the above. Played at Derby Lane for the first time yesterday and it was a completely different vibe than the HR. There were lots of drinks, social businessmen, it was like walking onto the set of Cheers. I was the only one there in a hoodie. Completely different vibe than the Hard Rock, and a great game. No comps and paying for most drinks sucks, but it was a much more enjoyable experience (not to mention a wayyyy softer table).

At the end, I knew half of the tables' names, shook hands with most of them, left up 4 buyins, and they were happy about it. Don't think I've ever had that happen at the HR lol :/.

Yeah, it's definitely different. And while there is a decent amount of overlap in the player pool at 2/5-- you'll always see some faces there that you also see at THR-- a lot of the Derby players really dislike the Hard Rock and won't ever play there.

One disadvantage is that, with Derby's must-move for 2/5, you have no table selection. Sure, you'll always have a pretty soft lineup, but if it's soft by consisting of a bunch of short-stacks/nits/limp-folders, you're just stuck there. But for all of Hard Rock's faults, that's obviously why we all continue to go back to THR: the overall amount and quality of the action is consistent, day and night.

Oh, and next time you hit Derby, do yourself a favor and order an Oreo parfait at the bar for $2. It is freaking DELICIOUS.

I think Hard Rock 2-5 is wayyyy more profitable than the derby 2-5, maybe I am in the minority. I much prefer the 10 handed tables, and I hate that must-move game. I also think that if you picked the toughest 2-5 players at Derby, they would be more difficult to play against than the toughest players at Hard Rock. And since there is at most 1 regular 2-5 game and a crappy shorthanded must move game at Derby, I find games more likely to be with those particular players, which I am not crazy about playing in.
I actually love the hard rock vibe. Its cold, dark, people smell bad, people are pissed off usually (I've written about that before), its a battle. I love it. The descending escalator is a wonderful metaphor...
The nitty 2-5 regs are annoying, but they can be had pretty easily, and if there are too many of them in the game, I just go to another game.

what's the descending escalator metaphor?

I'm guessing he's referring to the fact that if you come into the casino from the south parking garage, or the new garage on the north side, you come out on the second floor and take a big down escalator to get to the casino floor.

I've never looked at it like that before (descending into battle) but I think I'm going to give it a try. Next time instead of just concentrating on not tripping as I get off the escalator, i'll be descending into the arena to destroy those annoying, brash, young, headphone and hoodie- wearing, twoplustwo reading mother ****ers!!!