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04-18-2012 , 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
Just thought I'd describe how they did the freeroll signup today. This is for the 9am tourney start time, with registration supposed to begin at 6am.

At 3:30am (I was there playing cash games, but I'm a night owl, not a degen), they announced that one by one, they would call out the number of a cash game table, and anyone wanting to play in the tourney would go up and register. That was with the ID to get the actual ticket, not the number slip for registering later. Therefore, those seats could not be sold/transferred.

So then people started coming in to sign up around 6, and most of the seats were already gone.

Just amazing the **** they think up.
i actually like this better
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04-18-2012 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockdealer
Wicked angry is your name Scott
This forum thread is for the poker players.
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04-18-2012 , 12:53 PM
I'm just trying to put names to faces on here
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04-18-2012 , 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockdealer
I'm just trying to put names to faces on here
Are you Brad?
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04-18-2012 , 01:42 PM
Lol no I'm a good dealer
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04-18-2012 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockdealer
Lol no I'm a good dealer
Well you should have 311 pages of questions to answer then....

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04-18-2012 , 03:13 PM
Just to be clear I'm not a rep for the room im a dealer my opinion falls on deaf ears
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04-18-2012 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rockdealer
Lol no I'm a good dealer
lol i don't think brad is a bad dealer. There are definitely like 7 or 8 that are worse than him. A few regs and myself were chatting and sharing top 5 lists of dealers you'd stiff if you binked the bad beat.....
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04-18-2012 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by People_Mover
...top 5 lists of dealers you'd stiff if you binked the bad beat.....
I can be a huge *******, no dought about it...But binking the BBJ and then completely stiffing the dealer makes you a massive douchebag and a waste of oxygen.

Just saying...
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04-18-2012 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by People_Mover
i actually like this better
So do I; except that they should have announced it ahead of time, so people had the option of being there at 3:30am to play the cash games.

I don't know where they came up with the idea to change the sign up procedure each event, and then keep it a secret and just spring it on people.
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04-18-2012 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WickedAngry
I can be a huge *******, no dought about it...But binking the BBJ and then completely stiffing the dealer makes you a massive douchebag and a waste of oxygen.

Just saying...
I'd tip a few hundo... tipping 5k is ******ed. It's still a hand which they pitched you 2 cards and a shuffler did the manual labor part. I'd give Oscar enough to retire.
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04-18-2012 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by WickedAngry
I can be a huge *******, no dought about it...But binking the BBJ and then completely stiffing the dealer makes you a massive douchebag and a waste of oxygen.

Just saying...
There is ONE dealer I would stiff. But just to make sure my actions couldn't be interpreted as coincidentally selfish, I would tip every other dealer in the casino at the time a portion of a good tip so that it added up to the proper amount.
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04-18-2012 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
Just thought I'd describe how they did the freeroll signup today. This is for the 9am tourney start time, with registration supposed to begin at 6am.

At 3:30am (I was there playing cash games, but I'm a night owl, not a degen), they announced that one by one, they would call out the number of a cash game table, and anyone wanting to play in the tourney would go up and register. That was with the ID to get the actual ticket, not the number slip for registering later. Therefore, those seats could not be sold/transferred.

So then people started coming in to sign up around 6, and most of the seats were already gone.

Just amazing the **** they think up.
Did they have alternates? To start nearly 6 hours before, you'd think there may actually be a few people who call it a night and leave.

Oh wait, what am I thinking?

But I agree with the other poster who said this is the best way they've done it yet.
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04-19-2012 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HauntingTheHoly
Did they have alternates? To start nearly 6 hours before, you'd think there may actually be a few people who call it a night and leave.

Oh wait, what am I thinking?

But I agree with the other poster who said this is the best way they've done it yet.
They had nearly 100 alternates lol.
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04-19-2012 , 01:07 AM
There are a few dealers I wish I could win the bad beat from just to stiff. I don't know their names.

I saw an SNL skit where people on a game show were introduced to the doormen and service people of their buildings and asked, to win a large sum of money (like a million dollars) to simply give the names of the people that they saw every day. Of course they couldn't do it.

That's how I am with poker dealers. I know their faces couldn't care less about their names, even the scummy ones I want to remember to stiff.

If you stiff a dealer on the bbj it's a good bet they or their scumbag friends will come after you, outside of the casino- especially if ur a regular. If they do that please remember to "stand your ground" with extreme prejudice lol

ya know what? come to think of it I am so sick of the HR dealers. They never quit. They have always been there and they always suck and have bad attitudes. Why not just turn them over and get some new blood in there? I'm just so sick of their faces and the downtrodden woe is me horse****. They are all just mad because they wish they could be players but they have no talent. But that's got noting to do with me pal. They should go deal blackjack for awhile and get the blackjack dealers in there just to get these people out of our faces for awhile. Or better yet just get rid of them. They do a crap job and they clearly are an unappreciative lot who take their job for granted. Tourists who come in there don't want to deal with these scumbag dealers. They want a nice person and believe me it matters. Especially if a tourist is going to lose money they at least want to be treated nice.
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04-19-2012 , 02:04 AM
I hope that is all a joke if not I feel bad for you and anyone in your family that is forced to tell people yea I'm related to that person if you hate the place so much you could just stop coming in have you thought of that
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04-19-2012 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
There are a few dealers I wish I could win the bad beat from just to stiff. I don't know their names.

I saw an SNL skit where people on a game show were introduced to the doormen and service people of their buildings and asked, to win a large sum of money (like a million dollars) to simply give the names of the people that they saw every day. Of course they couldn't do it.

That's how I am with poker dealers. I know their faces couldn't care less about their names, even the scummy ones I want to remember to stiff.

If you stiff a dealer on the bbj it's a good bet they or their scumbag friends will come after you, outside of the casino- especially if ur a regular. If they do that please remember to "stand your ground" with extreme prejudice lol

ya know what? come to think of it I am so sick of the HR dealers. They never quit. They have always been there and they always suck and have bad attitudes. Why not just turn them over and get some new blood in there? I'm just so sick of their faces and the downtrodden woe is me horse****. They are all just mad because they wish they could be players but they have no talent. But that's got noting to do with me pal. They should go deal blackjack for awhile and get the blackjack dealers in there just to get these people out of our faces for awhile. Or better yet just get rid of them. They do a crap job and they clearly are an unappreciative lot who take their job for granted. Tourists who come in there don't want to deal with these scumbag dealers. They want a nice person and believe me it matters. Especially if a tourist is going to lose money they at least want to be treated nice.
I'd have to say that my experience with the dealers at the THR is about 180 degrees opposite of yours.

Yes, there are a very small number, IMO, that have a bad attitude, and also a small number who are not very good dealers from a technical competency aspect. But I would say that all of those together make up less than 10% of the dealers there.

The other 90% I have found to be nice, pleasant, and competent dealers that I enjoy playing with. In fact, I would say that it is the dealers that make the THR an overall good playing experience for me. They are good people and I would hate to see them leave.

As an example, my wife used to play poker with me at the THR, but became very ill, and can no longer play. She hasn't been in the casino in over 4 years, but every day at least one dealer, and usually more, ask me how she is doing and wish her well. While I don't know any of the dealers personally outside of work, I would certainly consider many of them "poker friends" just as I do players that I respect and enjoy playing with, even though I can't vouch for them outside of the poker room.

I think too many times the bottom 10% get all the negative attention, and it tends to overshadow the 90% who do a fine job.

I'm as critical as the next guy about some of the dumb things the THR does in regards to how they run the room, and will call out the bad dealers as much as the next guy. But I just wanted to say that IMO, there are many fine dealers in the room who make it a pleasure to play there.
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04-19-2012 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
I'd have to say that my experience with the dealers at the THR is about 180 degrees opposite of yours.

Yes, there are a very small number, IMO, that have a bad attitude, and also a small number who are not very good dealers from a technical competency aspect. But I would say that all of those together make up less than 10% of the dealers there.

The other 90% I have found to be nice, pleasant, and competent dealers that I enjoy playing with. In fact, I would say that it is the dealers that make the THR an overall good playing experience for me. They are good people and I would hate to see them leave.

As an example, my wife used to play poker with me at the THR, but became very ill, and can no longer play. She hasn't been in the casino in over 4 years, but every day at least one dealer, and usually more, ask me how she is doing and wish her well. While I don't know any of the dealers personally outside of work, I would certainly consider many of them "poker friends" just as I do players that I respect and enjoy playing with, even though I can't vouch for them outside of the poker room.

I think too many times the bottom 10% get all the negative attention, and it tends to overshadow the 90% who do a fine job.

I'm as critical as the next guy about some of the dumb things the THR does in regards to how they run the room, and will call out the bad dealers as much as the next guy. But I just wanted to say that IMO, there are many fine dealers in the room who make it a pleasure to play there.
+1
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04-19-2012 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by WickedAngry
This forum thread is for the poker players.
Really? Where does it say that?
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04-19-2012 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockdealer
I hope that is all a joke if not I feel bad for you and anyone in your family that is forced to tell people yea I'm related to that person if you hate the place so much you could just stop coming in have you thought of that
I will accept your sympathy. As a HR dealer I am sure you understand my pain. My family has nothing to do with it though I don't get that. I'm not a hateful person if that's what your getting at. I just don't like the typical sloppy, defensive, burned-out-on-dealing-but-can't-leave-the-money HR dealer.

There are many good ones in there and some neutral ones as well who I don't mind. But it aint 90-10. If I ran that room a good 30% of the dealers would be replaced. Just look at the behavior of the dealers who used to work there who come in to play now (with one exception).

The problem is you have tribes people installed into management and they aren't going to be good managers. At least that's my guess at the root of it. Too much promotion from within could also be a problem. People start putting their friends into management instead of the most qualified person. This is how companies rot from the inside.

The dealers laugh at losing players. I have laughed at player's with dealers. That might be wrong on my part but I never initiate it. Then some thug/gang banger lookin dude threatens me at the 5-10 because I took a big pot we were in. The dealer laughs. This happens like every time I go in there with dealers joking around with players clowning fish etc. Dealer's seem to never spot clear collusion (maybe they report it behind the scenes but usually it goes on for quite awhile before I just leave the table).

I'm not even going to talk about the technical side with HR dealer's. And they used to have a dealer in there who would routinely fall asleep in the middle of hands lol.

I did have to stop going in there and get away from that dismal atmosphere.
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04-19-2012 , 09:50 AM
Rockdealer, I was just about to say that it will be nice to get some dealer input/feedback/viewpoints on here, but unfortunately the unwelcoming committee got to you first. I apologize on behalf of the rest of us for the rudeness.

Yes, there are some awful dealers at THR (just like you'll find some awful employees at any place of business). But I'm certain that if Rockdealer were one of them, he wouldn't be on this forum (which, last I checked, was in fact open to everyone).
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04-19-2012 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by machi5
Yes, there are some awful dealers at THR (just like you'll find some awful employees at any place of business). But I'm certain that if Rockdealer were one of them, he wouldn't be on this forum (which, last I checked, was in fact open to everyone).
+1
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04-19-2012 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by machi5
but unfortunately the unwelcoming committee got to you first. I apologize on behalf of the rest of us for the rudeness.
Absolutely disgusting statement. You sir, are a PollyAnna invertabrae. I bet you're one of those guys that think the holocaust wasnt that bad. How is the weather up there on that horse?

If the good/ bad dealer ratio was 90/10, that would be an extremely good ratio and well run poker room. Its not even CLOSE to that. Its more like 60/40, which is unacceptable. And for me, the technical aspect is whatever. Even for a guy like asian O who deals like 6 hands an hour...if you control the game and keep the douchebaggery to a min, good job. WHen you make the game unenjoyable for the recreational players, its bad for everyone.

They dont care though. That hate their job and their life especially. They believe they are entitled to a % of all our hard won pots. Im sorry I even brought it up because it was in vain.

For the other 60%, thank you for a job well done. Not to be totally negative so in defense, there are some really fantastic dealers and people working in that room...there is just WAAAAAYY too many toxic ****sticks.

Oh, and LMAO at the dealers teaming up and physically going after someone who binks the BBJ and stiffs them. Lmfao!

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04-19-2012 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
So do I; except that they should have announced it ahead of time, so people had the option of being there at 3:30am to play the cash games.

I don't know where they came up with the idea to change the sign up procedure each event, and then keep it a secret and just spring it on people.
And so, I stopped going. I find plenty of action for my tastes at the other poker rooms in the area. The freerolls finally got me attending HR - something I don't like to do because of the potential liabilities of entering Indian territory (yes, seriously - you have little to no recourse for anything that happens to you there) and because their poker room is not state regulated. But they have lost me again due to the ridiculous way they have done the freeroll seat entries.

Adam: You told me early in the month that you would love to change to a lottery-type award for the tickets but couldn't because it was announced otherwise. Yet you change how the tickets are given out every single time?! This I find typical of every dealing I have ever had with you where I made a complaint and/or suggestion: You tell me to my face that you love the idea and would do it if you could, but later I find out that basically you are just out and out lying to me in an effort to mollify me.

I have been generally opposed up until now to destination resort casinos in FL as I felt that we have plenty of poker rooms and they would only hurt what we already have developing here. After this month's experiences at THR, I am now in favor of the destination resort casinos as apparently only market competition will improve the player experience for poker players in Tampa Bay (if not all of Florida).
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04-19-2012 , 12:41 PM
The promotion has definitely kept me away from the casino this month more so than normal - which is pretty absurd when you think about it and speaks to the level at which management fails at running a good poker room that cares about their players. I'm not sure how you could ever have confidence in management when they fail to correct awful decision after awful decision...
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