My understanding is that the interpretation that requires a hand to be shown at showdown is more commonly used in tournament rulings. In that context, it makes a lot more sense. In a cash game, it makes very little sense.

Number 2 is interesting. Our friend "J" who owns a barber shop and is very loud pulled that move the other day, declaring a pair of 8s, when he had 8-9(high). The other player mucked King high(the winner). The pot was pushed, but I thought that the player could have argued to the floor based on number 2. Everyone looked at me like I was crazy...

Must be talking about Lucky's, lol! The absolute juciest PLO game in America while at the same time the dirtiest poker room in America.

Plus you gotta be ready to throwdown in the parking lot just to get out with your cash. lmao!

just booked 4 nights at a nearby hotel for 2 weeks from now. pretty pumped to play something close to 40 hrs in that span. haven't been to THR since Aug '10. hope the games are just as juicy as they were then!

Had a dealer today, who is a pretty serious type not prone to gossip, tell me that the THR will be adding a craps machine where the players each sit at their own screen while the dice are in a bubble in the middle.

He also said they are getting the roulette setup where a live wheel is in the pit and players place bets on individual screens.

I was surprised as I thought that went against the compact w FL, but maybe since the state is dealing w other casinos now, the Seminole decided to push the envelope.

Has anyone else heard about this?

That would be cool but I highly doubt its true in the next month or so with the casino expansion. Its illegal in FL yes but that didn't stop them from starting BJ after south FL tracks were awarded slots.

Its strange that you mention this because on thursday a dealer said "has anyone played craps out there" or something like that, but it was some kind of joke about eating at the food court. But maybe he knows about something for real.

On a side note, one of the big chiefs just went down for tax fraud so maybe they need to help him out by adding the new games. lol

Just wondering, At the Hard Rock, if I am the "winner" the one who called ,when the other guy mucked, can demand to see his hand?

If you win the hand you can ask to see the losing hand but it will not be dead when the winner asks. So if the the guy misread his hand its still live and wins.

Keep in mind that its a DB move to ask to see anyones hand and that goes double if your the winner of the hand.

The only exceptions are if you really belive there is collusion going on or if someone shows their hand to the guy next to him on river and then tries to muck.

Thanks PR
nuther question.
How deep do the 1/2 games get...average stack
1/3 ?
2/5 ? thanks

How are the lists right now
1/3 ?

Just bumped into a Mizrachi brother at the front door, walking into the casino

Any PLO game running

When is the next freeroll?

Playing the WPT in Hollywood this weekend, I (and everyone else at the table, as this was news to all of us) learned that new TDA rules state that anyone not involved in a hand at showdown has no right to see a called hand that is folded. When our dealer refused a player's request stating this reason, we all thought he was confusing the rule with their cash game policy. A supervisor came over and confirmed the new rule.

Any of you guys hear about this, or were we all equally in the dark about it?

For the record, I have no problem with it. I've never asked to see a hand in my life, and never will. And yes, we were told that if someone suspects collusion, and their explanation as to why sounds reasonable, then a supervisor may rule to show the hand.

These are the ones left:

April 18th 9am
April 24th 4pm
April 26th 9am
April 30th 11pm

http://www.pokertda.com/custom_posts...ial-tda-rules/

Last night: Guy sits down and has never played poker before. Hes smiling, in a good mood, drinking beer, etc. He came from the BJ table with a fistfull of cash. Dealer absolutely embaresses this ****ing guy as soon as he sits. "Oh, you got to post the blind man!" (like an *******) Then he anounces in front of everyone at the table "Oh, everyones antennas are up now! Hes never played before!" Talking about him. ****ing idiot. Guys, this kids face turned as red as a $5 chip. I could tell he wanted to get up and leave. Then the rest of the night everyone at the table keeps saying they want to get in a hand with "that guy!" ....unreal.

Later, another dealer says to a player. "Throw the cards to me when you fold." They were perfectly over the ****ing line. Everyone at the table is like "...wtf?" Then he went on to interupt every private conversation people were having at the table with his loud boring ****ing stories. Oh did I mention while he was talking he couldnt follow the ****ing action and ****ed up every hand.

Absolute **** dealers. Everyone is always bitichin that the game sucks....wonder why. If I played for sheer entertainment, I would leave and play BJ too.

Oh, then I tip a waitres ****ing $3 for a $8 drink. I flip her the scoop and say, "Her ya go kid." Her reply like a total c*** "Oh, what you're saying that cuz you dont know how old I am?"

Sigh.

Enjoy the weak-tightness people. Games are only gonna get worse. The poker room is literally 0% fun anymore. 0%

rules at hollywood are different than rules at Tampa fwiw

I was playing $2-5 last night. A guy raises in late position and gets a few calls - flop comes Axx. A few guys check - original bettor continuation bets. First guy is all pissy and says fold and then tells the dealer he wants to keep his cards in front of him though because he knows he had the best hand preflop. Dealer obliges - while there is a call behind him. Hand continues on turn and river and dealer just lets the guy keep his cards till the end of his the hand - at which point he shows he had smooth called KK...OMG wow!?!?!? There's no reason that guy should have been able to keep his cards through the hand - dealers need to run the games instead of making friends with the players by continually letting them break the rules. I hate being the dick at the table that has to do the dealers job and it happens all the time at THR.

Then I get involved in hand with a guy just playing for fun. He’s been hanging out, drinking corona; he’s just basically splashing around. I flop a set and he’s got bottom pair. He check/calls flop, check/calls, turn, and puts in his last few chips on the river. He runner runner’d a flush and took the pot. The guy put in a TON of $$ as a huge underdog against me. Dream come true. He got lucky, its poker. Whatever…

A dealer pushing him the pot, here come the simpleton regulars. “Oh man, better to be lucky than good.” “Oh yea, blah ****ing blah lucky blah.” The guy is feeling embarrassed now and not having fun.
If the regulars put in half the effort into their poker skill, that they put into complaining about all the sand in their vagina, the games would still be fantastic, they would have more money, and I could actually enjoy the game I used to love.

Wicked angry is your name Scott

sorry for the repost, I'm visitig the 'rents next tue/wed/thurs from out of town and want to play a little poker.....just trying to get a feel for the room. Is there any action 9am-3p or say 6p midnight durning the week?
thanks

1/2nl games are not deep becuause they are 40-100 buy in. average stacks are 40-200 with an occasional 300+.

I have been there at 9am on a few occasions and the 1/2nl games are actually better then becuase there are some people(if you find the right tables) that have been playing all night and/or drinking and stuck and on tilt.

1/3nl doesn't play very deep because alot of people buy in min. or close to it which is 100. Stacks usually 100-200 with some 300-500.

WOW,,, must be really diff from my Casino ( Charles Town WV ) ! typical 1/2 game has average stacks of 300-700......
thanks for the reply !

Yes...Rick Scott.

Just thought I'd describe how they did the freeroll signup today. This is for the 9am tourney start time, with registration supposed to begin at 6am.

At 3:30am (I was there playing cash games, but I'm a night owl, not a degen), they announced that one by one, they would call out the number of a cash game table, and anyone wanting to play in the tourney would go up and register. That was with the ID to get the actual ticket, not the number slip for registering later. Therefore, those seats could not be sold/transferred.

So then people started coming in to sign up around 6, and most of the seats were already gone.

Just amazing the **** they think up.