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08-20-2019 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
Yes the building itself is nice. Just nothing impressive about the rest of it. I was talking to the massage girl and asked her what food was good and she told me she hasn't heard anything good about any place except sinatras. The 2-2plo game was fine. Just nothing impressive about the place I haven't seen before. And terrible to get there by car
Every place in Vegas is $2/hr for a massage and unless you try to arrive/leave during rush hour, arriving and leaving by car is a non-issue in my 15+ trips from Wakefield.
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08-20-2019 , 10:21 PM
In the end, I’m thrilled that this place is in our backyard and I couldn’t give a **** if some aren’t impressed/pleased with it. I am. It’s not perfect, but I have faith things will settle out and we will have an amazing poker destination.
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08-20-2019 , 11:01 PM
This was my fourth trip today-

1/3 continues to be very good - even on a random Tuesday afternoon. Walked +300 in 3 hours with little to trouble.

2/2PLO in my view is incredibly soft/straightforward however some of the games are so loose passive it turns into just a waiting game and you just simply need the cards - people are super sticky with very marginal draws - make a hand, fasten your seatbelt and hang on. If you are rolled for it , it can be very good in my view

2/5 in my view continues to be really tough during the day and this evening I tried two tables and had a rough time - lottt of grinders and very aggro preflop play - hope to find some better draws on the weekends there for 2/5

Tried the burger place - sat st the bar, prompt friendly service and my burger came out in 10 minutes. Burger was real good, onion rings were a little myeh but I do prefer breaded vs battered but they were a little cold and just whatever - with tip 33 bucks which to me is whatever for a luxury food outlet.

Parking was fine - went to get validated and they said it was free - I think I missed the memo on that.

It’s disappointing that they don’t offer any 3 to 2 blackjack . They have the tables but they aren’t open and tonight the pit was really jammed and there were no seats at any of the $25 tables and even the 50s were very full it’s like 6 to 5 ? come on open up the three to twos (I’m guessing only the weekend and what? 100 a hand?)

In my view the poker dealer quality has improved a lot - 10 hours of play today and not one bad dealer. Drink service was also nice and steady.
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08-20-2019 , 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PardoG

It’s disappointing that they don’t offer any 3 to 2 blackjack . They have the tables but they aren’t open and tonight the pit was really jammed and there were no seats at any of the $25 tables and even the 50s were very full it’s like 6 to 5 ? come on open up the three to twos (I’m guessing only the weekend and what? 100 a hand?).
Nice report. I played a few hours tonight and there was someone next to me who pointed at the automatic shuffle and asked what it was.

A little update, as of 11pm there are at least four 3:2 blackjack tables with $50 minimum and one is empty but with a dealer waiting for players. All the $50 6:5 tables are full. Too funny.
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08-20-2019 , 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PardoG
It’s disappointing that they don’t offer any 3 to 2 blackjack . They have the tables but they aren’t open and tonight the pit was really jammed and there were no seats at any of the $25 tables and even the 50s were very full it’s like 6 to 5 ? come on open up the three to twos (I’m guessing only the weekend and what? 100 a hand?)
The four pits lined up at the front entrance are all 6:5. The pits around the center of the casino and the ones upstairs in high limits are 3:2 ... for now. They start from $50. I swear they must have hired "sitters" that sit at the higher limit 6:5 tables to draw in suckers or something, because I don't understand it. Even assuming use of perfect basic strategy, the house edge on 6:5 is quadruple (4x) the house edge on same game and same play on 3:2. I.e., players can expect to lose money four times as fast. Friends don't let friends play 6:5. Friends shouldn't let strangers play 6:5 either. It is a virus that needs to be eradicated.

I've personally tried to inform the high limit 6:5 players where the 3:2 tables are, but I guess superstitiousness (or whatever it is) trumps mathematics.

Last edited by cal617; 08-20-2019 at 11:28 PM.
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08-20-2019 , 11:33 PM
Those people help keep the lights on for the rest of us.
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08-21-2019 , 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SirFelixCat
In the end, I’m thrilled that this place is in our backyard and I couldn’t give a **** if some aren’t impressed/pleased with it. I am. It’s not perfect, but I have faith things will settle out and we will have an amazing poker destination.
Why would u care what random people think of a casino u don't own ? The poker will pretty much end up like all places .....95% Texas hold em
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08-21-2019 , 10:11 AM
Looks like they killed the Free Credit option for Video Poker. All the VP machines have a placard that say as much now.

Word is this happened Saturday.

Anyone know what the next best option for Free Credit is now?
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08-21-2019 , 10:21 AM
So now you're stuck running it through a slot machine? JFC, so glad I did my tier match right away.
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08-21-2019 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
So now you're stuck running it through a slot machine? JFC, so glad I did my tier match right away.
I guess they didn't count on comp hunters maximizing their return on VP when they started the offer. It seems like most machines have a RTP of like 92-96% I don't see why VP is any different as the good machines were already not accepting comps. Maybe the volatility is higher?

Quite vexing.
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08-21-2019 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by matiasbot
Looks like they killed the Free Credit option for Video Poker. All the VP machines have a placard that say as much now.

Word is this happened Saturday.

And the squeeeeze continues.
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08-21-2019 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by matiasbot
I guess they didn't count on comp hunters maximizing their return on VP when they started the offer. It seems like most machines have a RTP of like 92-96% I don't see why VP is any different as the good machines were already not accepting comps. Maybe the volatility is higher?

Quite vexing.
Slots definitely have higher variance than VP. When it comes to freeplay, casinos want you to gamble with it, not try to convert it as 1:1 as possible. It's why freeplay is usually not allowed on e-games (if they have them), even on e-roulette which has less than 95% payback - they don't want you hedging to convert it. But prohibiting it from non-fullpay VP is unusual.
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08-21-2019 , 11:49 AM
[QUOTE=blee24;55367348]Nice report. I played a few hours tonight and there was someone next to me who pointed at the automatic shuffle and asked what it was.

Was playing 1-3 a couple of weeks ago here.. The guy beside me seemed to be calling a lot of PF and turn bets and then folding the river. Eventually he called a river bet and lost. He asked the dealer why the winner was given the pot since HE ONLY USED ONE OF HIS HOLE CARDS.

The dealer patiently explained that you can win using one, two or none of your hole cards. The player nodded and proceeded to dust off a total of $500.
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08-21-2019 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by blee24
Nice report. I played a few hours tonight and there was someone next to me who pointed at the automatic shuffle and asked what it was.

Was playing 1-3 a couple of weeks ago here.. The guy beside me seemed to be calling a lot of PF and turn bets and then folding the river. Eventually he called a river bet and lost. He asked the dealer why the winner was given the pot since HE ONLY USED ONE OF HIS HOLE CARDS.

The dealer patiently explained that you can win using one, two or none of your hole cards. The player nodded and proceeded to dust off a total of $500.
That could happen anywhere. The poker room will become reg invested just like any other place and it will all be hold em sooner or later. All anyone wants to play around there is hold em
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08-21-2019 , 01:32 PM
I did a walk through of the pits on Friday, maybe 8ish. The BJ tables on the side by down escalator we're all $25 3/2. I had just about given up on finding one and bam, there they were.
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08-21-2019 , 01:58 PM
[QUOTE=jungmit;55368502]
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That could happen anywhere. The poker room will become reg invested just like any other place and it will all be hold em sooner or later. All anyone wants to play around there is hold em
I detest statements like this since it's absolutely baseless aside from the "I have thought about this and it is absolutely true." In fact, right now there are 5 tables of 23 currently running that are not hold em.

Personally, I have played 25 sessions since opening and have played zero hands of NLHE. Now am I the minority? Sure, absolutely. That doesnt change the fact that about 10-20% of the play in the room is non no limit hold em every single day and has shown no signs of slowing down. There are plenty of options for other games, I suggest the 20/40mix. If you can withstand the ad nauseam complaining from the stud regs it's a really fun game (sorry stud regs reading this).
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08-21-2019 , 03:44 PM
couldn't imagine playing full ring PLO by choice, of course it will be mostly hold em
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08-21-2019 , 03:46 PM
I'm planning on a Sunday afternoon day of play. Any chance of getting together an 8/16 hold 'em or mix going? I expect to be there noonish until 7ish.
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08-21-2019 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by prizminferno
couldn't imagine playing full ring PLO by choice, of course it will be mostly hold em
Th pli was not bad. Was real good when 2 people got up and we played 7 handed
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08-21-2019 , 05:56 PM
[QUOTE=GiggityGoo70;55368607]
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Originally Posted by jungmit

I detest statements like this since it's absolutely baseless aside from the "I have thought about this and it is absolutely true." In fact, right now there are 5 tables of 23 currently running that are not hold em.

Personally, I have played 25 sessions since opening and have played zero hands of NLHE. Now am I the minority? Sure, absolutely. That doesnt change the fact that about 10-20% of the play in the room is non no limit hold em every single day and has shown no signs of slowing down. There are plenty of options for other games, I suggest the 20/40mix. If you can withstand the ad nauseam complaining from the stud regs it's a really fun game (sorry stud regs reading this).
You may detest statements like this but it will be true. Within a few months it will be basically hold em. The other games are too tough for players to learn or too swingy like plo. Mgm Springfield started with mixed games now u never see anything there besides hold em. Twin river is strictly hold em.
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08-21-2019 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GiggityGoo70

You may detest statements like this but it will be true. Within a few months it will be basically hold em. The other games are too tough for players to learn or too swingy like plo. Mgm Springfield started with mixed games now u never see anything there besides hold em. Twin river is strictly hold em.
I disagree with this pretty strongly as well. Today there are 31 games with nearly 25% of them being non-NLHE and the players in these games are mostly regs from Foxwoods, Chasers, and home games I’ve played in. Unless these players suddenly decide to quit poker over the next few months there will always be somewhat of a core group for these games.
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08-21-2019 , 06:50 PM
[QUOTE=jungmit;55369094]
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Originally Posted by GiggityGoo70

You may detest statements like this but it will be true. Within a few months it will be basically hold em. The other games are too tough for players to learn or too swingy like plo. Mgm Springfield started with mixed games now u never see anything there besides hold em. Twin river is strictly hold em.
Not all that long (maybe 4-5 years) ago Foxwoods had 2-3 20/40 LHE games along with a 10/20 LHE game going all weekend. Over the last few years these games have all but disappeared. I was hoping that the opening of Encore would bring these games back, but it’s seemed to do nearly the opposite.

The 20/40 LHE games went regularly for the first few weeks but have since sizzled out.
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08-21-2019 , 09:23 PM
What games are in the 20/40 mix rotation
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08-21-2019 , 09:27 PM
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What games are in the 20/40 mix rotation
Earlier in this thread someone reported hold em, stud 8, Omaha 8, badugi, and 2-7 Triple Draw. Would be interested in an update from someone who has played it recently.
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08-21-2019 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by blee24
Earlier in this thread someone reported hold em, stud 8, Omaha 8, badugi, and 2-7 Triple Draw. Would be interested in an update from someone who has played it recently.
No badugi the 2 times I played in past 3 weeks. Only the other 4. Was told it was played at high limit mix though. Ymmv.
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