[QUOTE=jpsychlady;55371539] Sounds good. Thanks, psychlady.

The most popular live sit n go's in the entire world are the $160+$15 and $260+$15 at the WSOP sng area where they basically run 24/7 multiple tables for the entire 5 weeks until the last day of the Main Event. They pay out $1600/$2600 (they're 10 handed) which is 3/5 $500 lammers and $100 cash (which they want you to give a part of or all to the dealer). The lammers are as good as cash as there is a super long line all day at registration and walking straight in from the exit to the next person buying I've never seen anyone be turned down to exchange the lammers for cash. There are also multiple side bets on table last longers, multi-player last longers, HU last longers, and more. Often a person in a $275 will have $500+ in side bets that could win as much as another $1500 as a $100 table last longer can return $1000 and you could have 4 HU last longers for $100 each as well.

That's is where I got the $15 rake. I'm sure there are almost no other places that have such a low rake but we can hope.

I'm excited for this. Hopefully more healthy food and less/none where people use their hands/fingers (pet peeve of mine as they get grease and other things all over the chips/cards).

The Rio SNG's are great if you can avoid the pair/team of grinders who clearly collude and chop lammers as they don't even pretend to hide it. It's more prevalent at the 275+ level from my experience as the 165's seem to be mostly straight up and filled with awful 1/2 players trying to get lucky. Aside from WSOP month I doubt we ever see a return of these turbo turbo's.

I was told last year that Encore wouldn't be running a big series as they wouldn't have the space or rooms to accommodate that many poker players. With the traffic being less than what they anticipated, particularly 5/10NL+ and the VIP room, I wonder if this will change and they will run a series to get each table generating revenue for Wynn shareholders.

FYP

On Fri/Sat nights they go all the way up to table 74 which is the one closest to the women's bathroom/ATM in the back corner by the North Elevators but there are still tables in VIP/Middle section that are empty. They could try and run a few $100+fee sng's just to see how it goes. It certainly doesn't hurt to announce and get an interest list and if it doesn't run that is fine too. They don't take too long and it will help the dealers to learn.

I get what you are saying about collusion at the Rio sng's.

Heading over soon and just noticed they updated the main page on Poker Atlas saying the new menu is ready to go.

They are not gonna run SNGs in that empty area. It’s exclusive and segregated for a reason.

Can you take a snapshot and post it?

This week I heard the opposite - that the WSOP circuit is not going g to be at Foxwoods anymore and it’s moving to encore. Not sure my source is reliable, but it’s certainly no less reliable than your source, or your comment about “traffic being less than they expected”

I guess we will have to wait and see !

I don't think there is any question that traffic is less than they expected both in the casino, but relevant to this thread in the poker room, which is why I feel they could call an audible and run a series here. The VIP room is a ghost town with the room nearly empty now that so many pros have come and gone after seeing how bad the 5/10NL+ games were. Like literally the worst you'll find anywhere with 6-7 grinders at nearly every table.

It's a Friday night at midnight and they have 35 tables earning $0 rake. Last night at this time they had over 50 tables earning $0 rake as they do pretty much each night with the exception of Saturday. This isn't what a shareholder was expecting out of such a large piece of Encore's space in a $2.6b casino. I don't need a source to tell me that.

Played there for the first time tonight. Best place on Earth.

I counted, via the app, at 11:30 and they had 60+ tables going. Bullshit to your 39. Even right now at 4am they have 27 going

This is in conflict with the record gaming revenue they posted in the first week and the subsequent revenues they have posted each week since. Also - don’t forget that college isn’t even back in session yet! Just wait until all these college kids and especially the rich international ones (and their parents) roll back into town. It’s going to get even busier.

Back to poker - what is the obsession with the 5/10 games being bad? Like I want to know where, except maybe Florida and the Commerce in CA on the weekends are the 5/10 games good? They are horrible in Vegas and any 5/10 game I’ve ever played in there is maybe 1-2 spots at best and usually I am one of them! Overall, 5/10 NL + games are pretty much dead outside of private games. No matter what people want to say NL is tough these days at any meaningful stake. And to say there are “5 to 6 grinders in every 5/10 game” uhhh yeah. That’s been like everywhere since like a long time bud.

This is what I don't get. PLAY OTHER GAMES. hold em is not the only poker game

Stop I can only get so erect.

Would be surprised if they didn't just have one stop at Foxwoods and a new stop at Encore. They've had a stop at Foxwoods forever and it's very popular so I wouldn't think Foxwoods would want to give that up? Happy either way.

Also heard the tournament schedule will be posted in September (hopefully next weekend)? Have been trying to get information on buy-ins, guarantees, and types of tournaments but haven't heard anything yet.

To be fair the 5/10s here are comically nitty to the point that I’d much rather play in Vegas 5/10 games which have actual tough pros in them but at least they give you action and will foster an engaging rivalry with you compared to these Roombas at Encore who open to 25 preflop.

The real answer though is that New England area grinders have spent the last three years excitedly anticipating a flood of random Boston whales at the 5/10 NL games because they believe they deserve to have a beatable game to just fall out of the sky for them. The nasty realization that maybe they actually would have been better off if this place had never opened and that Twin River and Chasers were the real golden age of their time and they just didn’t realize until it was too late is a tough pill to swallow, so it’s natural that they’d cope by moping and complaining instead.

All poker players mope and complain about almost everything. It's what we do.

Menu - the menu is the same exact menu with the addition of a few items.

Smoked Salmon Bagel
Asian Vegetables over Jasmine Rice
Chickpeas, Almonds, Sweet Potato, and other healthy things over Brown Rice
Lobster Roll

The previous items are all still there. I should've taken a pic but I'll go back now and get one.

No it actually has nothing to do with their released revenues no matter how many time this gets erroneously repeated as these were July numbers when the place was rocking. One Friday in July at 8pm had 17 2/5’s, 6-7 5-10’s, and 3-4 higher NL games. Last night as I posted above the numbers WERE significantly less. The 1/3 players who are responding that this isn’t true doesn’t affect them as the 1/3 games are still bountiful with I believe 30 of them running last night.

I take it you haven’t been in the MGM, Chasers, or Twin 5/10 games over the past two years. It’s comically bad here to the extent of players moving UP to 10/20 in the hopes of a whale arriving or feasting on scared money.

My numbers were per Poker Atlas at the time I posted and there were 53 games running. Isn’t this an 88-table room?

No. It’s a 74 table room and I was under a morphine drip at the time so my calculations were wrong. There was a larger discrepancy between your numbers and the correct numbers but I’m back on the morphine so I cannot calculate at the moment.

Mine were based off 88 tables. When did the room go from 88 to 74? I distinctly recall it being marketed as an 88-table room. Sorry to hear about the morphine need.

Anyway, my point remains that there is now a dearth of big games due to the departure of a large number of pros who had migrated to Encore in anticipation of great action. Nobody can convince me that Encore mgmt expected the VIP room to become tumbleweeds just two months in.

It became 74 tables when the poker tables in the “tournament” area were replaced with table games a few weeks ago
You continue to behave like a know it all even though evidence has proven otherwise

Buddy - you also posted these numbers while Foxwoods was running a major WSOp circuit stop and not to mention some of the most popular summer vacation weekends of the year. The room is doing just fine, and come fall it will be even busier. Again, when they start running tournaments Foxwoods and MS will be total ghost towns. MGM Springfield will have it niche but it’s too out of the way in an area that isn’t flush with high income folks - it’s success will be limited in the long run

Not at all. I asked a simple question since it was 88 and you answered it. No need to web tilt.