From what I can gather a lot of the 20-40 Stud and 20-40 Hold'em players simply don't like the $8/half hour and how expensive the food is. They'd rather drive 4 hours round trip and pay $30 in gas while putting 200 miles in depreciation/wear and tear on the car to go to a new room that has no cage and busted TVs/carpet and more but it gives them better comps/free rooms.

I would play Stud/Hold'em in 20-40 HOS but it seems that isn't gaining any momentum at all. Just a few people are ok with HOS but I really thought we could combine all three player pools into one game and have that consistently run but I am way too optimistic.

There were also no 20-40 players coming from Chasers, Twin Rivers, Mohegan, etc... so this is not like 1-3/2-5 NL which probably inherited hundreds (possibly thousands) of players.

I'll be there a lot the next 3 days and report back in what I can find out.

I'll be there a lot the next 3 days and report back in what I can find out.[/QUOTE]


Are you saying that all those FW stud players that waxed eloquent for years about Encore opening up was all bs? And what about all those Mass. players that had to drive to FW to get a game? They seriously aren't supporting this Boston venue?

FW 20-40 HE players had/have to practically promise their first born to get a game going there. They would come to the stud tables and beg for players t flesh out a game to get it off the ground, of which I would oblige.

Oh well, I can still hope they go off.

Played at Encore for the fifth time last night, $2/$5 exclusively all 5 times; I must have had good table draw EV my first 4 times, because in all 4 of my first trips I had unequivocally great tables (more randoms than regs)... but last night I had a bad table (more regs than randoms, and the regs were tough ones playing super aggressive).

I looked around for better tables but they all seemed reg-heavy.... perhaps the $5/$10 regs are dropping down to $2/$5 after seeing how soft it is, or maybe it was just an unusual night (or maybe I didn't really examine all my table options close enough... sometimes I get lazy/stubborn about switching once I get down at a table)

Overall I'm still so much happier here than at Twin


Oh, and the watiresses were on point last night, I don't think anybody would have any complaints. Dealers are still hit and miss, with the new ones still very slow and timid after a month. And our table got stuck with a string that had about 6 really new/slow dealers in a row, which was pretty brutal. But it does make you appreciate the awesome fast ones (of which this room has many) all the more

I posted the following over on the Stud forum, and what I am reading here is kind of telling me that Stud at Encore is not really getting off the ground. Which is interesting with all the talk at Foxwoods pre-opening, was how the game there was going to be doomed.

Do the stud players live closer to FW?

I've never played Stud at FW or Encore but I have sat right next to the Encore stud table a few times when playing O8 and it broke (once Sat at 8:30pm'ish which was a shocker) but the 20-40 Hold'em was also short handed all day last Saturday (another shocker).

It might take a few action stud players to move the game to Encore as the better players will go where the bad players want to play.

I didn't know about the Hold'em game having such a tough time getting off the ground at FW.

Maybe the dearth of comps (free, discounted rooms) and high dollar food is too much for them to make the drive. But I am surprised that there aren't enough local limit players, stud and he, to get these games going regularly.

Oh well, one thing I know for sure, there will never be a free room for x matter of hours comp policy put in place for anyone other than maybe the highest limit games and NL games. There's just not enough rooms on site to make that plausible.

Every time a 6/12 Stud game got going, I've never gotten off the waitlist
Every time a 6/12 Stud game had the list called and I showed up, no one else did

I was with you until your shot at the Girl Scouts.

good point. I think this is why Twin River works. When I go to Twin river it feels like a local new england place. Encore built something out of place in boston. Sure people in boston have money but we're not like people in Vegas.

Twin River “works”? Outside of “great action”, I’ve never heard anyone say anything nice about it

You cannot be serious! /McEnroe

I don’t know what definition of “works” you’re using. Twin went from 2 to 3 5/10NL games to zero. From 3 to 4 2/5 games to 1 maybe 2, and still doesn’t spread PLO. Meanwhile at Encore, the blackjack tables are nearly full every night whether it be $50, $100 or $200 min and an electric atmosphere. I don’t understand what part of Encore is out of place.

If they spread 15-30 would they take rake or time? Would 20-40 Stud and Hold'em players drop down to 15-30?

When I was there last Friday I ran into someone I used to play mix games with at Foxwoods and he told me that he's going to stick to playing 20-40 Stud at Foxwoods. His reasoning was that Encore is more interested in opening more 1-3 tables than starting a 6-12 or 20-40 Stud game. They had lists for both games but wouldn't take a chance in starting one short handed. He even cajoled me into signing up. And i agreed to play short if they ever were to call it. In my experience it was the norm back in the day starting a mid stake limit game short.

I still think the best bet is to set a schedule on what games and stakes Encore should spread on particular days.

If they spread 15-30 would they take rake or time? Would 20-40 Stud and Hold'em players drop down to 15-30?

When I was there last Friday I ran into someone I used to play mix games with at Foxwoods and he told me that he's going to stick to playing 20-40 Stud at Foxwoods. His reasoning was that Encore is more interested in opening more 1-3 tables than starting a 6-12 or 20-40 Stud game. They had lists for both games but wouldn't take a chance in starting one short handed. He even cajoled me into signing up. And i agreed to play short if they ever were to call it. In my experience it was the norm back in the day starting a mid stake limit game short.

I still think the best bet is to set a schedule on what games and stakes Encore should spread on particular days.

FWIW a guy I know said the other day he has played poker and blackjack pretty evenly at Encore and got a free room offer for 2 days consecutively. He had to book both days and did.

I think the $8/half hour time charge doesn't allow people to go smoke a few cigarettes or do some other stuff like take a walk or whatever.

I hear a few people who said they played some slots and blackjack and got 2 free nights as well. I also notice hotels.com has the Encore at a discounted price and the regular Encore website shows a drop in a lot of the hotel prices too.

The dealers/floor did mention that the 20/40 stud game has the most complainers.

A lady at my table got a free room but didn’t know why exactly. She got a post card in the mail w the free room offer and said she’d been playing table games downstairs. I’m sure that’s why!

Nice to meet u last night. I did well at 2/5 NL and it looked like u were doing well well when I stopped by.

20/40 stud? Complainers? No way do those two go hand in hand

Can’t even compare to the 150/300 FW stud complainers.

There is a 20/40 stud going right now.
I actually had a discussion about the opposite of your complaint. There would be 20-30 people on the 1/3 and 2/5 lists but they would call short higher games.

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Curious who they will Tier Match and how much they'll give of the $75 to $500 credit. I have zero status with the local places like Twin, Mohegan, FW but I do have Caesars Diamond and Pearl MGM.

I'll give it a try tomorrow and see what they say.

It says August so you might not e able to do it tomorrow. But if you find out a list of valid casinos please do report that. My guess is it's only the New England ones and not others like Caesars, that's how MGM Springfield does it and it makes sense. So I suspect your Caesars Diamond won't work but MGM Pearl will.

FreeCredit is basically free slot play right?

That is my question too. What is FreeCredit? I do notice when I stick my card in a slot machine to check my points instead of going to RedCard desk there is an option to use FreeCredit so that is probably what it is.

I've gotten these $5 FreeCredit type things at the Orleans and other casinos in Vegas and sometimes it is a pain like you have to put in another $5 just to get the first spin then you can cash out the $5 etc... oh well. Let's hope even if they don't do it until 8/1 they might have some info if I ask nicely. I'll report later tonight.

FreeCredit is free slot play

I think you'll have to do the same here, as it states that coin-in is required.

For anyone traveling and staying at Encore, this may help:

I have booked two separate trips, each for 8 days. By checking the website, their room rates fluctuate fairly constantly. I called to cancel one reservation to make another, shaving $600 and change from the first reservation.

The reservationist advised me that anyone can check or even call them and have them review their rates and they will apply the lower price to the reservation if and when they find them. She actually took both reservation numbers and I got am additional $1,400.00 shaved off, saving me over 2K for both trips combined. So you don't even have to do the work, just check the website, if the rate has been shaved, call reservations and they will adjust the price, prior to check-in.

Also, Encore has the best, most accommodating reservations team. They are very well trained and it seems they truly care about you getting the best deal, which blows my mind, but the results speak for themselves.

Hmmm, now that I think about this, maybe I'm the only stunod paying for rooms. Oh well, in case there are any other stunods out there, hope this helps.