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04-09-2014 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by idun215
really? have you tried this yourself?

I tried from the poker room and the lobby in front of the elevators. I personally couldn't access any poker or casino sites. Plus the hearsay from around the room.
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04-10-2014 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CarolinaK1d
Ok. I've never played any of these big event #1s at Borgata. Is there any possibility of day 1d (Thu 7pm) selling out?
I don't recall mention of previous ones selling out in this thread. They do keep getting bigger, and most of us can only guess at what selling out might be. You might find better info in MTTc or or by looking back at old threads there for previous opens. The old Borgata Poker Blog was recently crapped up by a redesign, but Google can lead you to the series-specific blogs for past events. Again I'm not certain you'll find your answer, but it's another place to look. (Although my guess is that if an event did sell out, they'd make a big deal about it.)
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04-10-2014 , 02:04 PM
How much is wifi at the hotel and is it any good?
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04-10-2014 , 03:24 PM
okay was just at the borgata earlier connected to the guess WiFi and was able to connect to borgata poker the site was able to confirm my location in NJ. I stopped short of playing any games because when i did they call my name for the cash game i signed up for so im assuming that Yes you are able to plug in your laptop connect to borgata wifi and play on their poker website.
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04-12-2014 , 09:38 AM
I have always had a preference for KEM cards and have been warning casino managers for years of the dangers Gemaco cards present for collusion, but no one listens:
Borgata sues poker pro Phil Ivey who allegedly cheated house for $9.6 million
http://www.nj.com/atlantic/index.ssf...4_million.html
also see, http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/n...9bb2963f4.html

Last edited by dipce; 04-12-2014 at 09:45 AM.
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04-12-2014 , 06:04 PM
Can confirm borgata's poker cards are easily marked compared to other cards I've played with. Sometime around this time last year I think they switched to a different type and it was a bad problem for a month or two.
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04-13-2014 , 11:19 PM
The borgata uses two different types of cards. Kems in the "back" and Gemacos in the main part of the poker room. Kems are as good as it gets. The gemacos are utter crap, but they are about 1/3 the cost ; )
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04-14-2014 , 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by prototypepariah
The borgata uses two different types of cards. Kems in the "back" and Gemacos in the main part of the poker room. Kems are as good as it gets. The gemacos are utter crap, but they are about 1/3 the cost ; )
So they saved $20 to lose 10 million. Nice. If they had listened to our
Complaints over the years concerning the Gemaco cards or there was
A working CCC this never would have happened. It is absolutely
Shameful they used Gemacos in a high limit pit.

Also amusing. Defendant requested a mandarin speaking dealer.was defendanr conversant
In mandarin? Don't they teach English in schools in the USA?

Did the floor and shift also understand Mandarin?

I also generally specifically request a 23 year old Cantonese
Speaking dealer with a slim waist. But usually get a grumpy
Old guy way too far behind on debts to his bookie. And so
My big blind usually finds its way into his tip box.

More to the point: the casino is wasting resources testing
Low level employees for drug depence when they should be testing
Their executives to see if they have a heart or any brain activity.

Nurse: "doctor! Joe executive has a pulse but i can find
No brain waves."
Doctor pulls out photo of cocktail waitress half the exec's
Age. The brain wave monitor notices activity of signals
In the brain sending blood to the lower abdomen. "He's
Fit for duty. Send in the next exec," saids the doctor to the nurse.

Didn't. An American Asking for a dealer who spoke a language
He didn't understand post-crockford (london) raise any red flags in the execs minds?

Last edited by dipce; 04-14-2014 at 06:19 AM.
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04-14-2014 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LowSociety
The link or pic is broken? Anybody have a working link for details of the bbj frenzy?
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04-14-2014 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dipce
It is absolutely
Shameful they used Gemacos in a high limit pit.
The part where he specifically requested this suggests that they wouldn't normally. From where we sit, yeah, his specifications are so oddball and suspicious they shouldn't have been granted. (Not to mention we know the outcome.) Vs. Ivey, it's hard to say the casino has much room to complain about their earful of cider. Vs. Gemaco, they probably have a better case.
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04-14-2014 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Saviorian
The link or pic is broken? Anybody have a working link for details of the bbj frenzy?
Read back a few posts to April 6

Sent from my XT1030 using 2+2 Forums
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04-14-2014 , 11:25 PM
For the BBJ Frenzy, the floor confirmed that AA89T board A8 A9 or A-T would work, does not need to be a pocket pair
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04-15-2014 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by testcase
For the BBJ Frenzy, the floor confirmed that AA89T board A8 A9 or A-T would work, does not need to be a pocket pair
I meant to ask someone about this on the weekend. Did a random floor or dual rate or did you ask a shift/vinny?

The ambiguity around the new qualifier is a bit disconcerting.
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04-15-2014 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by prototypepariah
I meant to ask someone about this on the weekend. Did a random floor or dual rate or did you ask a shift/vinny?

The ambiguity around the new qualifier is a bit disconcerting.
The bad beat frenzy did start today.

You Don't Need a pocket pair
To make aces full
But do Need a pocket pair for quads,
If quads is the winning hand.
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04-15-2014 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dipce
The bad beat frenzy did start today.

You Don't Need a pocket pair
To make aces full
But do Need a pocket pair for quads,
If quads is the winning hand.
And if you read the full rules it is also confusing, it says you have to use both cards for a quad, but then on the low bad beat it says must use both hole cards, nothing about a pocket pair. When the first bad beat hits we will get a confirmed ruling, so it seems like AAA flop vs 2 pocket pairs higher then 8s would count, unless one guy also has an Ace in the hand, then it would disqualify it, but still seems like AK does not work cause you have to use both cards for a quads.
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04-15-2014 , 01:49 PM
Rule of thumb should be if you get to showdown 3 handed with an A on an AAAxx board, you should not open your hand until the other two guys open theirs. If they have pocket pairs 88+, then muck your hand.
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04-15-2014 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Spaceman
Rule of thumb should be if you get to showdown 3 handed with an A on an AAAxx board, you should not open your hand until the other two guys open theirs. If they have pocket pairs 88+, then muck your hand.
What's the table share if it hits (how much is Ax giving up the pot for)?
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04-15-2014 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Lattimer
What's the table share if it hits (how much is Ax giving up the pot for)?
Table share at a full table would be $2500. So unless this is a 5/10 NL game (biggest BBJ game) there is almost no chance that the pot would be worth more than that. Not to mention that the rest of the table would murder you if you voided the jackpot and took the pot.
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04-15-2014 , 05:07 PM
Most places "both hold cards" means that if your second card is a kicker that plays, the hand qualifies.

At Ocean's 11, I had JJ vs AJ on a board of AA3A. We qualified. Sadly K on river and we got counterfeited (ya I know, wrong forum, waah waah waah).

I believe any aces full had to lose to quads or better, so KK vs QQ with AAA on board did not qualify. I've been told there are some smaller venues that DO allow two pocket pairs to qualify for Aces full.

At Canterbury, the old AAATT qualifier rule was that for a Full house, you had to have an ace in your hand. TT-KK could not qualify for Aces full (could qualify for quads).

I don't know the specifics of the Borgata's rules. Sounds like it could use some clarification.

Last edited by danspartan; 04-15-2014 at 05:08 PM. Reason: 2 years later and I'm still crying over the $12K I lost on that river King.
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04-15-2014 , 08:49 PM
Does anyone know the games in the 15/30 mix that's going ?
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04-15-2014 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cmurl904
Does anyone know the games in the 15/30 mix that's going ?
I don't have an answer but if you call the poker room --and are willing to wait thru multiple transfers-- then someone will eventually confirm. A few weeks ago I was curious about either the 20/40 or 30/60 and called to find out that it's some mix of baduci/aci variants.
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04-16-2014 , 12:44 AM
if you guys want to play a mix that isn't badugi/dacy/ducy. Post on here, and we'll get a game together. Otherwise the "regs" are gonna make it draw heavy. Besides draw is fun and different people should wanna play it!
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04-16-2014 , 11:34 AM
The website's BBJ rules doc is finally updated. Not a lot of additional illumination, except that the rules as published are the rules.

Cliffs: must use both hole cards, must have a pair in hand for quads, no pair requirement stated for boats

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To qualify for the Bad Beat Jackpot, a player must have four deuces or better beaten. If the winning or losing player has made a four-of-a-kind, that player must have a pocket pair to qualify (example: if a player has four eights, he/she must have a pocket pair of eights with two eights on the board). Both the
winning and losing hands must use both of their hole cards to create the
highest possible hand.

Four deuces beaten wins the Bad Beat Jackpot (low) displayed amount.
The Bad Beat Jackpot (low) will cap at $50,000 if not paid out.
On the calendar day following the Bad Beat Jackpot (low) reaching the
$50,000 cap, the hand required to win the Jackpot will be lowered at noon.
The hand required to win the Bad Beat Jackpot (low) will be lowered again
at 4pm and 8pm if the jackpot is not won. The hand required to win the Bad
Beat Jackpot (low) will be lowered again the following day at noon, 4pm
and 8pm if the jackpot is still not won.
Required hands for the Bad Beat Jackpot (low) will be lowered in order as
follows: AAAKK, AAAQQ, AAAJJ, AAA1010, AAA99, AAA88. The required hand of AAA88 will remain the required hand until it hits.
Both hole cards must be used to qualify.
Four tens or better beaten wins the Bad Beat Jackpot (high)
displayed amount.
Each eligible player will be paid out as per rule #10.
http://www.theborgata.com/assets/web...eat/index.html
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04-16-2014 , 12:20 PM
So it is confirmed that AK should muck on a AAAxx board if KK and QQ are tabled?
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04-16-2014 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by punkass
So it is confirmed that AK should muck on a AAAxx board if KK and QQ are tabled?
Yes. If AK (or any Ax) is tabled, then that negates the bad beat. I verified this with several shift managers. I'm sure that there will be several disqualified bad beat hands!
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