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08-06-2010 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpy
I don't disagree with you in that regard. Yes the BBJ is a strong marketing tool. However, I do disagree with the Taj and Borgata changing the rules in regards to the BBJ as to make it more difficult to hit. E.g. Aces full to quads being beat at Taj and now two separate jackpots at Borgata. If you're going to put a BBJ in your room make sure the rules are set and stop changing things to benefit higher jackpots. I don't think regular players at the Borgata appreciate having to stay updated on how many people are required to be in and what needs to be beaten to qualify as a bad beat hand. Lets go with a system like Harrah's and stick with it. It causes less confusion and frustration among regular players that support the room.
Harrah's has been trying to change their system for 2 years they want a city wide bbj with everyone getting a share when it is hit. If and when that happens, I will see no reason for anyone to room chase like they now do which is fine with me. Pretty soon it will be that you need to have a royal flush beat your hand in order to have a bad beat...now Stan dont go and get any crazy ideas and do that it is NOT A SUGGESTION.
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08-06-2010 , 01:22 PM
Anyone interested in trying to get a 5/10 hose game tonight or this weekend?
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08-06-2010 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dima2000123
I wish Bad Beat jackpots were banned altogether, so that rooms won't have to race to the bottom to match each other. Do they actually increase the total number of players, or do they merely shift them around?
I wish we could do away with it. If you ask me, all they do is take money out of the poker economy.

Stan
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08-06-2010 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by taaemt
Harrah's has been trying to change their system for 2 years they want a city wide bbj with everyone getting a share when it is hit. If and when that happens, I will see no reason for anyone to room chase like they now do which is fine with me. Pretty soon it will be that you need to have a royal flush beat your hand in order to have a bad beat...now Stan dont go and get any crazy ideas and do that it is NOT A SUGGESTION.
Hey, that's a good idea. NOT!

Stan
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08-06-2010 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by taaemt
Anyone interested in trying to get a 5/10 hose game tonight or this weekend?
maybe Saturday if I see enough interest on here. Last couple of times there hasn't even been a list. I think most people are starting to play the 1/2 PLO because of the action. I need to bring more monies with me to be prepared for that game...
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08-06-2010 , 01:59 PM
Hey NEWDAWN, the guy just attempted to kill himself, have a little sympathy, forget about poker for a second, I'm sure you wouldn't be making comments like that if that was a friend of yours, geeeesh

Hey Stan, when will the satellite dates be posted for the WPT main event next month?
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08-06-2010 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dima2000123
I wish Bad Beat jackpots were banned altogether, so that rooms won't have to race to the bottom to match each other. Do they actually increase the total number of players, or do they merely shift them around?
Spoken like a true actuary!

No seriously, this is a really great point. I remember a few months ago when I cam down to the borgata for one of my trips, I noticed the room was far less busy then normal, I thought to myself, the WSOP isn't going on? Where is everyone? Then I found out they were all at (caesars or taj can't remember) because the BBJ was 550K. It was so irritating.

Foxwoods has tougher BBJ rules too, that way the BBJ gets bigger, looks better, and your chances of winning go down. Blah, I'm with Stan, wish we could ban!
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08-06-2010 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by caldor king
maybe Saturday if I see enough interest on here. Last couple of times there hasn't even been a list. I think most people are starting to play the 1/2 PLO because of the action. I need to bring more monies with me to be prepared for that game...
in for NEXT saturday the 14th
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08-06-2010 , 04:15 PM
Getting rid of the BBJ would be unwise for one simple reason: That recreational gambler or tourist who does not normally play poker and is attracted to the room for the lucrative longshot possibility of winning the BBJ may not otherwise step foot into the poker room. Put simply, there would be a few less fish. I emphasize few less because I expect somebody to assume I'm arguing the BBJ brings in many inexperienced players. I do not think it does. But in my experience at the Borgata, I have heard at least one player say they were only playing because they hoped to hit it. It is worth keeping for those few players.
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08-06-2010 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NEWDAWN
Really? Take a good look around any Poker room you will see many depressed people.Think about it a person that is calling him or herself a "Pro" that is very sad and depressing.This poor guy most likely thought that he could be a winning poker playing.He may have also tried help some of his so called new poker friends. When all this fails as it does most times it can really put a hurting on someone. 95% of the people that play poker lose. Only 3% to 5% can really make a living.You never see Espn get into how most of the TV pros are just lucky people that are scoring big in the business of poker. Other then Ivey, Brunson and Dwan I don't see one TV PRO that could beat a 2/5 game at Borgata.
Another mistake players make is thinking your gonna grind out a living playing 1/2 and 2/5 in a live setting. You have almost a zero shot. It would
Also depend on what you call a living. If you call playing 70 hrs a week and making 40k a year a living then I feel sorry for you.I always have concern foe all the you guys I see trying to make it in poker. I've told many don't quit school , don't quit your job , don't play as much, don't let it consume you.even the great Ivey couldn't beat the 2/5 np game for 100k per year. Making a 100k a year isn't that hard to make in the real world.the person that deals card to you in a good room is making close to 100k a year. The bartender that serves you a drink in a glass can make 100k. Next time your at the TaJ just
Stand there and take a good look around the room. You'll see plenty of older guys that wish they never saw a poker room and I'm sure thought of jumping off a bridge.
lol looks like ur well informed mr.buzzkillington, you dont play 2/5 to win 100k+ a year..... you play 5/10+ or higher

its impossible NOT to crush live poker 2/5, if i dont win most of my trips down and dont book a marginal profit at the minimum, im shocked because its like playing against braindead drunks.

so what if a bunch of losers are sad or depressed because they are getting crushed in poker and losing grandmas last mortgage money? they will just lose it in the pit at blackjack or roulette something anyway might as well just hand the cash into my pocket

some people just lose at the game of life, its a fact of life.
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08-06-2010 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by I'veArrived
lol looks like ur well informed mr.buzzkillington, you dont play 2/5 to win 100k+ a year..... you play 5/10+ or higher

its impossible NOT to crush live poker 2/5, if i dont win most of my trips down and dont book a marginal profit at the minimum, im shocked because its like playing against braindead drunks.

so what if a bunch of losers are sad or depressed because they are getting crushed in poker and losing grandmas last mortgage money? they will just lose it in the pit at blackjack or roulette something anyway might as well just hand the cash into my pocket

some people just lose at the game of life, its a fact of life.
You sound like someone who's crushing the game of life.
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08-06-2010 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by I'veArrived
lol looks like ur well informed mr.buzzkillington, you dont play 2/5 to win 100k+ a year..... you play 5/10+ or higher

its impossible NOT to crush live poker 2/5, if i dont win most of my trips down and dont book a marginal profit at the minimum, im shocked because its like playing against braindead drunks.

so what if a bunch of losers are sad or depressed because they are getting crushed in poker and losing grandmas last mortgage money? they will just lose it in the pit at blackjack or roulette something anyway might as well just hand the cash into my pocket

some people just lose at the game of life, its a fact of life.
Such a child but you'll learn.I would love to know what you call crushing. I'm sure your really Crushing . I'm sure mom and dad are proud. I hope you remember that the guy who jumped off the bridge was crushing it.
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08-06-2010 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NEWDAWN
Such a child but you'll learn.I would love to know what you call crushing. I'm sure your really Crushing . I'm sure mom and dad are proud. I hope you remember that the guy who jumped off the bridge was crushing it.
I usually do not like jumping on the hating wagon. But NewDawn you come across as one of the most ignorant supposed "pro" poker player on a website that has its fair share of arrogant e-tard douchebags.

First, for ALL of your damn posts, the thing called a PERIOD should always be followed by pushing the big centrally located space bar button twice with your gigantic man paws.

Second, I am not exactly a grammar nazi, but when your posts consistently look like you either ate a lot of paint chips or were repeatedly beaten as a kid (you are not a red-headed step child are you?) Pretty sure the chubby fourth grader who eats the glue at school knows more about sentence structure than you.

Third, EVERY time you respond to a post you consistently spew the most nonsense I have seen, but somehow think that your opinion should be heard about every single topic when someone is talking about any kind of poker pro situation, I'm pretty sure you are describing your own self loathing when you describe, in your mind, how all poker pros live. Your ignorance is only compounded by your stupidity.

Could write more... but would rather not get banned now...
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08-06-2010 , 11:21 PM
just got done playing about 25-30 hrs of poker over the last 2 days/nights. had a great time and booked a profit. ive still yet to see or hear anyone throw out a "sup bro?" to me, or anyone else.
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08-06-2010 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nocrying
Stan, I'd like a game report sometime in the early afternoon.
Time for a live game report Friday 11:15pm


(55) Live Games


(2) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(3) 10-20 LHE
(3) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE


(1) 1-2 PLO
(1) 10-20 Omaha H/L
(2) 100-200 Stud
(1) 100-200 O.E.
(1) 400-800 H.O.S.E.


(20) 1-2 NL
(12) 2-5 NL
(5) 5-10 NL
(1) 10-25 NL



(225) 12pm $220 + $30 NL Tournament


BBJP $113,615


Stan
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08-07-2010 , 12:17 AM
Hi Stan,

Since I don't have PM option I decided to post within the thread.
I know you are constantly requested to post game reports within this thread and sometimes it requires page scrolling just to find most recent one. I think this situation can be improved for all parties involved. I was planning to create a game status tracking website so that all of us can get instant updates from the games instead of coming here all the time. This of course would require you or other room managers using the site to post updates. Is this something that you might be interested in? I'll be able to let users subscribe to game updates so that your updates will be distributed by email or will be available on the site. Just thinking of ways to help us all
Thanks.

Dmitry.
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08-07-2010 , 10:23 AM
Has the 1/1 game been running? Thinking about coming down tonight.
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08-07-2010 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Skinz
Has the 1/1 game been running? Thinking about coming down tonight.
Long time no see on the Borgata thread Skins. Good to have you back. Unfortunately we haven't seen the 1-1 game. We get a list but no one shows up.

Stan
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08-07-2010 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DimaBrooklyn
Hi Stan,

Since I don't have PM option I decided to post within the thread.
I know you are constantly requested to post game reports within this thread and sometimes it requires page scrolling just to find most recent one. I think this situation can be improved for all parties involved. I was planning to create a game status tracking website so that all of us can get instant updates from the games instead of coming here all the time. This of course would require you or other room managers using the site to post updates. Is this something that you might be interested in? I'll be able to let users subscribe to game updates so that your updates will be distributed by email or will be available on the site. Just thinking of ways to help us all
Thanks.

Dmitry.
They already have one
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08-07-2010 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by argablarg
in for NEXT saturday the 14th

Me too.
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08-07-2010 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dela
Me too.
I'd be in for 5/10 HOSE next Sat. (14th) also.
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08-07-2010 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Party Pooper
Getting rid of the BBJ would be unwise for one simple reason: That recreational gambler or tourist who does not normally play poker and is attracted to the room for the lucrative longshot possibility of winning the BBJ may not otherwise step foot into the poker room. .
I have to disagree with this statement (maybe because I'm adamantly opposed to BBJs). The recreational gambler/tourist has no idea what the different BBJ amounts are at the various casinos. Only the regulars follow it. The tourist just plays in whatever casino he happens to be at that moment. For example, a tourist going to the beach and staying at the Taj will just play at the Taj. He has no idea what the BBJ is at the Borgata and isn't going to make a special trip to it if the BBJ is really high there. The locals will, but not the tourists.

As a matter of fact, I would argue that when the BBJ gets really high somewhere, then all the locals go to play at that particular casino and you'll find a much better game filled with tourists in the other casinos that don't have a high BBJ.

I'd love to see someone post stats about how many players were in the room on average before Borgata had the BBJ vs After they had the BBJ vs After they changed it now to create larger BBJs. I predict the *average* will be the same. It may fluctuate more when it gets large somewhere, but on the whole, I don't think the average changed. (Of course, I could be wrong, so I'm waiting to be proven wrong...)
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08-07-2010 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruler of the East
Example:

If the BBJP is $400,000 and your table has a smaller BBJP hit. Say, quad 4's loses to Quad J's. The table will win $100,000. The BBJP will stay the same until the next day at 11am when we reset the BBJP amount. The $100,000 will be deducted from the $400,000 which leaves $300,000 plus the drop from the previous day. Let's say that the BBJP drop was $15,000. Now, the new BBJP for the new day is $315,000 and if you hit the small BBJP it wil be worth$78,750.

Even better, if a smaller BBJP hits at 1pm the BBJP totals do not change. At 7pm another small BBJP hits, they will also win $100,000.

Stan
Good grief, Stan. This makes no sense. I mean, props for experimenting with new things and for running one of the best rooms on the East Coast, but this just befuddles me. It is way too confusing and is going to lead to repeated ridiculous questions from and explanations to table noobs.
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08-07-2010 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by agent87
I have to disagree with this statement (maybe because I'm adamantly opposed to BBJs). The recreational gambler/tourist has no idea what the different BBJ amounts are at the various casinos. Only the regulars follow it. The tourist just plays in whatever casino he happens to be at that moment. For example, a tourist going to the beach and staying at the Taj will just play at the Taj. He has no idea what the BBJ is at the Borgata and isn't going to make a special trip to it if the BBJ is really high there. The locals will, but not the tourists.

As a matter of fact, I would argue that when the BBJ gets really high somewhere, then all the locals go to play at that particular casino and you'll find a much better game filled with tourists in the other casinos that don't have a high BBJ.

I'd love to see someone post stats about how many players were in the room on average before Borgata had the BBJ vs After they had the BBJ vs After they changed it now to create larger BBJs. I predict the *average* will be the same. It may fluctuate more when it gets large somewhere, but on the whole, I don't think the average changed. (Of course, I could be wrong, so I'm waiting to be proven wrong...)
The average jackpot size will be larger. Consider a bbj where only 100% is awarded if a straight flush is beat and this happens 1% of the time while all others pay 25%. The jackpot will usually be around 4x the old jackpot size. The system here is less extreme but there should be bigger posted bbj (Though the average size won would be the same.)
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08-07-2010 , 01:30 PM
The other factor to consider though is that when the big jackpot does hit, it's going to take a long time to build back up. For the 'small' jackpot to get to let's say $125k (around average size before the change) the BBJ total has to be $500k. It will take months to reach $500k. Right now the 'small' jackpot is around 30k, and it will be a long time before it reaches anything substantial.
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