I, for one, applaud Mason and 2p2 management for sucking the fun out of this forum. We all need to take poker more seriously and stop trusting our friends to do something nice for us.

I know that Stan would purposely and maliciously put on a piece of s**t event and try to tie this site's name to it--especially considering the fact that this site has done nothing but allow him to provide game reports and customer service and ultimately, drive additional traffic to his room.

Oh wait.

so monday night, ill be arriving at the borg, if any one wants to meet up. of course this meet up wouldnt be sanctioned or sponsored in anyway by this website, so you might want to keep it on the downlow..


oh wait....
nvm

whos in?

Time for a live game report Saturday 3:55pm


(53) Live games


(3) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(4) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(2) 40-80 LHE


(2) 10-20 Omaha H/L
(1) 25-50 PLO
(1) 30-60 Stud
(1) 60-120 H.O.
(2) 75-150 Stud
(1) 150-300 O.E.
(1) 500-1000 S.H.E.


(16) 1-2 NL
(10) 2-5 NL
(5) 5-10 NL


BBJP $123,565


Stan

sickossssssss!

Due to last minute work conflicts, I will not be able to go to the Borg on Tue-Thu. Thank goodness there is nothing going on those days that I would miss. I mean if there was any possibility that I might be able to enjoy myself with some folks that I know from an anonymous forum - I'd be really pissed off.

I will, however, make every attempt to display my presence tomorrow, in an unofficial capacity, of course.

Thanks for information will have fun when I go.

I'd have to vote boo.

Booooo!

(bangs knife and fork on the table)

No Roger no Rerun no rent!

stan, game report please.

The drive down begins now. See everybody in two hours.

I will be down there tuesday early morning looking to play a certain 120 dollar tourney, does anyone know what time this tournament is starting ?

http://www.theborgata.com/Main.cfm?C...9183420ABE2F21

Game report please thanks Stan

Time for a live game report Sunday 4:45pm


(41) Live games


(4) 2-4 LHE
(3) 3-6 LHE
(3) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE


(1) 10-20 Omaha H/L
(1) 75-150 Stud
(1) 100-200 O.E.


(13) 1-2 NL
(8) 2-5 NL
(3) 5-10 NL
(1) 10-25 NL


BBJP $135,512


Stan

Stan, is it possible to raise the max buy-in to 800 or 1000 for the 2/5 NL, since the 1/2 is 300max and 5/10 is 2000max. My personal opinion, I love deep stack poker !

Stan, PM sent re: the upcoming nameless event. Looking forward to seeing all the miscreants.

Almost nothing would make me happier than to see this finally happen and I know a lot of other players that feel this way. It is very very difficult to make a living at 2-5 with buy in as is for most players. If there was a little more money on the table it would become easier for the group of players on the fringes of being able to do so.

When the bad beat was introduced last year, this cut into the hourly rate of all players by about $3 per hour to make it even more difficult. Raising the min and max buy-in even a little....say up to $200 - $800 I think would make for a better game for the players that want to play a little deeper without hurting the players who want to buy in for $100...who in my opinion should be playing $1-$2NL anyway.

Mohegan Sun has the $200-$800 buy in at their $2-$5 and I think it worked very nicely. I hope Stan will consider making a change because I'm not sure if he noticing but he is slowly losing many $2-$5 mainstays. $5-$10 is simply too big a game for many players and there is no where else within Borgata to go.

Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable playing in a 2-5 game if the max was $1000. I always buy in for the 500 max amount and would hesitate to play if everyone was super deep-stacked.

lol?

I'd love for the buy in to be raised, but internet poker has made 100bb buy ins super standard. it's the other games that have weird buy in amounts. If you can't make at least $25 an hour playing 2/5 with the buy ins the way they are, you shouldn't be playing poker for a living imo.

also, it's definitely possible for them to do it, it's just a long process and i doubt Stan would be willing to go through it.

If the whole table wants to be deeper than $500, there's always the kind of shady/obscure option of asking to change the game to something else (say, 5/10 NL) for 5 minutes and then asking to change it back.

or a mix of 2/5NLHE and 2/5PLO since the buy-in for 2/5 PLO is 200-1000

Not possible.

I believe that internet poker has no bearing on how casino poker will be organized.

I always hear a bunch of (who I consider to be) weak regs that want to up the maximum buyin to 1k at 2/5. My answer to them is sure, but my personal opinion is that they will benefit little to none at all. The people they don't want to play deep against such as the internet grinder changing up and playing live or strong regulars will be buying in deep, but the casual and weak player will be buying in $500 or less as usual. In their perfect world the fish will be buying in for 1k and stacking off overpairs against sets and small flushes into their nut flushes. I really don't think it will happen.

I think by far the most profitable thing would be upping the minimum buyin to at least 200. A table with 1-2 people buying in for $100 and playing loosely literally makes it impossible to beat the table after time charge imho. Or maybe a couple people can squeak a small winrate.

I apologize, I didn't mean to imply that it did. I just meant to say that people are more used to 100bb than deeper buy ins because of internet poker, not that poker room management decides their buy ins based on online games.


There are very few good regulars in the 2/5 games at Borgata, and a lot of the "weak" ones buy in for random amounts between $250 and $400 anyway, so I can't see these players wanting the buy in to increase.

And I don't know how you think players buying in for 20bb and playing loosely makes the game unbeatable. These players give away their stack, rebuy, then give it away again and again. Sure, it's only $100 and not $500, but they certainly don't make the game any more difficult if you can adjust to them properly.

Regardless of if you can adjust properly or not, your edge is not substantial enough to beat a 2bb/hour timecharge game (for anything worthwhile) if there are two loose 20bb effective stacks when you see 25-30 hands an hour. Talking about proper adjustment is overrating how much skill is in 20bb poker.

Changing the 2/5 buy-in would scare off a lot of the fish in that game, and attract more 5/10 regulars to move down. Why would any winning 2/5 player want that?

You obviously can't beat these games for much at all if you think this way. The 20bb stacks play ATROCIOUSLY and they certainly don't make this games unbeatable.

Because I'd rather play deeper, given the option. The regulars are just as bad as the fish at 2/5, and even if the 5/10 regs moved down, most of them play terribly, too.

and fwiw, before I come off as cocky, I know I'm not very good at poker, but the people who play live are really quite atrocious

When I buy in short, I play well, but that means I play tight.

If a short stack is playing loose, it seems like they would not be hard to beat.