If you get felted in the first three levels, you may go back to the registration desk and buy in again. You may or may not be in the same seat. Very good chance that the wifi will be free. Still working on it though. Don't hold us to that but it does look good.

Stan

I love this place - just moved back to NYC and the first time I went to AC with a friend he is a reg there and introduced me to the crack that is the Borgata.

First thing I played was the $340 on Friday - ran deep too - 400+ players that day and I hit bubble boy - not a greates success story - but to go from 400+ to top 30 (got knocked in 27th) I THOUGHT was pretty good.

Gotta make a trip out there again soon and see some peoples!!

Its the former, and 1:20 is the 'max' even with playing a hand with the new dealer. Playing a hand with the new dealer is the only way to get to 1:20. If you dont play with the new dealer, you get a button immediately, then another in 30 minutes, then you get picked up or you get 20 more minutes depending on what game youre playing.

yea, the range is 50-80 minutes with getting 2 absent buttons + 20 minutes.

I did not know about the +20 minutes part before today. I always just thought it was 2 absent buttons, which would be 30-60 minutes, which is still reasonable.

Why are they bad? Don't they allow the casinos to improve the odds for the recreational players, without the fear of being cleaned out by the card counters?

Why do I feel like I'm walking around with a giant kick-me sign on my back?!?

(Then again Stan probably put it there)

the extra 20 minutes is for time charge games only, or at least thats what supposed to happen. Not sure why stan didnt clarify that. Maybe they made a recent rule change or something.

According to Stan's post...
Therefore...

Dealer #1 arrives. You play one hand & leave. 30 mins.
Dealer #2 arrives. You get absent button #1. 30 mins.
Dealer #3 arrives. You get absent button #2. 30 mins.
Add 20 mins.

You get 1 hour and 50 minutes.

I have never seen anyone get picked up until the dealer #3 arrives and sees the 2 absent buttons.

Why would anyone go on the dinner list and risk not getting back in the game?

That's why we sometimes play short for a long time. This is not just a Borgata problem, however. Many rooms have similar policies. A 3rd man walking rule helps.

Severely OT, but why would anyone play blackjack without counting at some level?

And how on earth do continuous shuffle machines improve the odds for anyone but the house? Even if you are a donk and are just playing for fun, the house is getting more play out of you (and guess what, you don't get rated differently from shoe-dealt tables) in a -EV game.

I'm jus sayin....

Has anyone ever taken the aces train from Borgata? I know there is a shuttle to B, but haven't heard anything about going back. Is there one that goes back, or is a cab/jitney the best move?

Trust me, its 1:20 if the floor is doing its job

No, once Dealer #3 gets there and gives you the second absent button, one hour after you've left, you immediately kick into your 20 min "extra time." So, it's only 1 hour and 20 minutes.

The Shuttles TO the train station leaves the casinos 30 minutes before the departure time.

The shuttle leaves just outside the door of the Poker room.

I trust you... been playing in cardrooms for a a little while now

I'm just telling you what I see all the time, here at the Borg and at others. As I said, in many cases (most) - it takes dealer #4 to get a pickup.

That would be the doors to the right past the entrance to the cafeteria if you walked out of the poker room?

If you are playing in a time charged game (e.g 2/5 NL), you have to pay full time when you are absent. Why would you want to pay $10/hour to not play?

If you are just playing 1/2NL, you don't have to pay when you are absent, but you can always get a seat within like 2 minutes if you are at the top of the list, so you don't lose anything by picking up and going on the dinner list.

The only game for which is makes sense not to pick up your stake would be a raked game with only one table, such as the 10/20 OE...which BTW is where I tend to see the most abuses of people doing this.

All this talk of people getting it in with top 2 no redraw in 1/2 PLO games is making think I may have to take a shot in the game next time I come up. It's almost always running whenever I come for some reason.

I never use to go on the Dinner list because I usually eat in about half an hour. Then I realized that I was paying $5 to eat Dinner which is stupid because the first person on a 2/5 list on a Saturday night is usually called within 0-5 minutes of getting back.

Unless I'm on a really good table or have a big stack, why wouldn't I go on the dinner list?

Stan -

I want to take a second to thank you for the terrific work you do in your poker room.
The Borgata is one of many destinations available in atlantic city and I have been to almost all the other casino's. Yes, the borgata's card room and casino is top notch and certainly stands among the top rooms. But I plan on becoming a black card holder this year based on my one interaction in real life with you and your unbelievable presence on this forum.
I may be speaking for a small minority of people but I have not played online seriously in some time, about a year now and wasn't really planning on making atlantic city part of my life, I thought I would just spend my money elsewhere. But you never know who you meet in life and when you went out of your way to be kind and helpful to me you did not know the impact it has.
I am not a big time player nor a small timer. I generally bring about 2-3k with me when I go which was maybe once a month tops but I plan on going every weekend (or every other) now playing 20 hour sessions.
I don't know if you have a boss since you seem to be the top dog to everyone in the card room, but if you pm me a phone number or email I will happily tell how I plan to make the borgata my weekend getwaway for this year.
I won't be playing any pit games, other than the occassional blackjack while i wait for a seat to open up at 20/40 or 40/80, I will only be playing cards. I live in long island and the drive is not an easy one (goddamn it anyway!) but I love the card room, the professionalism and knowing your running the show has made me a lifetime customer to the borgata.
Stan, you are the man and you should know I speak for alot of people when I say thank you for your online presence and thank you for being such a top notch guy.
See ya soon

on a last note - I spoke with my infiniti dealer and am upping my annual mileage to 15k a year so i can make the necessary travel as per my earlier conversation in this forum

SIThomer

I appreciate the kind words. Thank you very much. The truth is that i like what i do and i am just doing my job. I am just glad that i was able to help.

Stan

has PLO been going alot during the week, i'll prob be down weds night

Because if you have been at the table for hours, you will know how most/all of the people play (I know people come and go all the time though). If you go to a new table, you will have to learn how the people play if they are not regulars. Also, I have come back from dinner and have had to wait awhile a few times waiting for a 5/10 table.

DITTO

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So true. Stan, you are the man. Was down tonight when i saw 1-2 PLO was running. Unforunately my calls to the poker room went unheeded and when I actually got there, the game had ended. I had to settle for 1-2 NL. It was boring and I hit no hands and had to bluff to get most of my money. Here's the PLO running on New Year's Eve/Day.