If the game is played by "competent" players who know how to cut chips properly then there clearly is no benefit. If you do play the game on the weekends you'll quickly realize that its not played by competent players. Its already no foldem holdem. I understand the thinking, but simply doubling the volume of chips may create the appearance of a bigger pot but those same competent players will still know the value of the pot.

I may be wrong, but a game with too much action is not necessarily the easiest to beat. Sure, when hands hold and draws hit you're gonna crush it, but in general these games will provide the biggest swings to your bankroll.

game report around noon or 1 would be great.

+1 on requiring limit games to use a single chip denomination. I play the 3/6 game and it slows things down considerably when the dealers are constantly making change for redbirds. People should be required to play with just white chips if possible.

I have played in some rooms on the West Coast and they only use $1 or $2 chips. It speeds things up considerably.

would be nice if u can provide how many ppl are sitting at 10/25 or # of list of interest.

Being that you ran from 5th to first on the list in just 15 minutes you probably shoulda been more attentive to your name being called. Try putting down "XYZ" as your initials, you probably will hear that being called better than the usual "JR", etc.

Using a paging system would prompt people to leave the poker area and play craps, bj, slots, etc and could end up half way across the casino... then they would have to wait like 5 minutes after the "page" is sent for you to show up. So someone is now barreling thru the casino trying to get back to the poker room before the next name is called.

I think the announcement has to be local so you are forced to stay nearby when you are near the top of the list.

What I do propose is this: I have a lot of experience with App design and human interface design.

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A self sign up kiosk (Taj is ahead of Borg on this one). When you sign up on the list you have the option of being notified via text/email based on your info on your rewards account (setup by logging in online). You can enter it manually too.

You have 3 options

1. Don't notify
2. Notify your new spot # when you move up on the list
3. Notify only when you are in the top X spots

X is equal to half the # of running tables for the list.. Ex.if there are six 1-2NL tables you are notified when you are in the top 3.

You are NOT notified when you are taken off the list (you are called). You need to be there.

The poker desk should be able to send out a "new table" notification to the next 10 names on the list. This will let these people know a new table is being formed and they should make their way back to the room asap. Their names are not taken off the list until the desk actually calls the table.

Lastly, a link on your notification to remove you from the list... this will allow someone to remove themself if they are in a game they dont want to leave, on a hot streak at a craps table they dont want to leave, or met a hooker they don't want to leave....

Anyone else add to this?

My name didn't go from 5th to 1st in 15 minutes. It was 5th or 6th before I went downstairs to get some food. About 45 minutes later, I came back up and it was 1st on the list. I waited for another 15 minutes or so to see if I would be called quickly before I sat at a 1/2NL table to kill some time.

If it is a two-way communication system, like text messaging, then you can reply to lock up the seat and it will be locked up for 5 or 10 minutes (they will already lock up a seat for 10 minutes for you now). Even if you are on the other side of the casino, I don't think it will take 10 minutes to get to the poker room. And if you added in the notifications when you are in the top 3 or 5 on the list, this would let somebody know when they need to head back to the poker room so they will be even closer and you wouldn't even need to give them 10 minutes to get back.

Almost anything that adds some sort of additional notification would be better than the current system. Right now, taking a bathroom break could cost you your seat and place in line on the list, especially since it's not easy to tell where you are on the list (unless you happen to be at a table near one of the lists). If you happen to have gone to the bathroom, even if you hear your name being called from in the bathroom, it's not likely that you'd be able to get out of the bathroom and flag down a floor person to lock up the seat before they move on to the next name.

I'm all for keeping people that are waiting for a seat in the poker room so that there isn't much wait on people to take their seats, but the current system needs some help. I was actually going to mention the self-sign up kiosks at the Taj as one of the things I liked better than at the Borg, but the only real advantage is that you can put yourself on the lists instead of talking to somebody to do it for you. Since there isn't any additional functionality to be gained, I think it's nice, but not something that would put one room above another.

Something else that could be done with the self-sign up kiosks is to prioritize the games you get on the list for. Say you really want to play 20/40 LHE, but there is a list of 7 people. You put your name down for 20/40, 10/20, and 7.50/15 but specify that 20/40 is your preferred game with 10/20 next. Then if you get called for the 10/20, your name stays on the list for 20/40 but comes off the list for 7.50/15. This would keep the lists clean so you wouldn't have so many names being called for seats they don't want any more. Also, if the names on the list are tied to player's cards, when the player swipes out and leaves, they would be given the option to keep their names on any lists or remove them.

Something else that could be done with a text message type system is that after your name has been on a list for say 2 hours, you are sent a message asking you want to stay on the list. If you don't reply within a few minutes, your name is removed from the list. This would really help the interest lists for new games. I know that I've put my name on a list for a new game, sat down and played something else for a few hours and then left and didn't stop by to ask them to take my name off the lists. This is probably one of the reasons it's hard to get new games started. A list may have 8 or 9 names on it, but 4 of them could be 8 hours old and they aren't even in the casino any more.

I'm sure people much smarter than me will come up with (or have already come up with) a really good system, I just haven't seen it implemented anywhere yet. Hopefully the Borgata will be a pioneer in this area and really move things along.

Hey Guys

Non of this is realistic for your expectations here. Just think about the volume of what a Brush calls for lower limit, and 1/2 and 2/5 NL games. Were talking hundreds of names called in any busy hour. Adding addtional wait times for texting people, or using something else besides a PA system is too much effort for not enough return (no matter how convenient it would be)

Only time that you see Brushes/Floors cater more is higher limit games, 5/10 NL and above, being able to call your name unto a list, having someone directly call you when your name comes up, or Wynn's system of being able to sign up in your room, and check lists from your room as well.

Strange, my Mon-Thurs free room offer (1 per week) that was good thru 12/29 is gone.

Now it's just a room offer from now thru Feb 7th. No comped rooms, just a rate of about $30 less than the publicly advertised rate. I guess no limit on the # of days I stay.

Weird thing is I've been to Borgata twice in the last 2 months, played some slots, poker, ate in Bobby Flay, so I used the place.

Anyone else have this happen on their account?

I just call and ask. Lately I have noticed and other friends of mine that they let me book Fridays and/or Saturdays all I have to do is ask. I am not getting them through poker room but customer care. I call and ask. They told me that they are slow and it changes daily for room offers.

Same for me....My Jan-Feb offers vs. the Tourney rates are all over the map...

TOURNAMENT RATE for WPO
Sun - Thu $79
Fri - $139
Sat - $179

MY OFFERS
Sun - Thu $69
Fri - $139
Sat - $289

So I am BEATING the tournament rate Sun Thu, tying on Fri and the Tourney is BEATING me on Sat?????

I already booked a room at Harrah's for the WPO because their offer, even though I have NEVER played anything there, was just too good to pass up. I got a room for Wed - Fri for under $200 for all three nights so I guess I'm going to find out how much it sucks to walk/jitney back and forth.

doesnt suck that much -- borg is the next stop on the jitney when leaving harrahs -- but going back to borg -- dont take jitney, walk or cab it

this is the standard thing to do, sleep at harrahs for free, play only at borg. watch out though, harrahs has fine print stating if you stay in a comped room and dont play at all they have the right to charge you the full rate for the room. i have never heard of them actually doing it and there have been times i stayed there and didnt give them a dime, but i usually try to drop about $20 in a slot per night im staying there, no worry about a potential room charge and it keeps the offers coming, +EV (dont drop it in 1 spin, longer you play the better, i usually put $20 in a penny slot after i returned from borg from the night and try to stretch it out for a while, getting many free drinks to help unwind) you dont have to wait till it hits 0, just play for a while, they care that they have ample opportunity to take your money, not so much that they actually did

woops your not staying for free -- but do what i said anyway, you will get rooms offers in no time

I think if it were done right, it could reduce the time it takes to call names (especially for new games) and would actually free up people as people wouldn't need to be doing most of the work.
For instance, take a combination of our suggestions and have a notification system (I'm going to use text messaging as an example) that would notify you when you move up the list or when you are a certain number on the list (if the system is tied to your player's card, you could define your own preferences as to how you would want to be notified). So you get notified when you are number 3 on the list, then when you are 2 on the list, then 1 on the list. Then when you're next, you get a text message (or some other notification). You have a specified amount of time to respond (no different than current system). Say you get a minute. You just hit reply to the text message and your seat it locked up for 5 minutes (this could be changed by the house). Also, if the lists were interactive, you could take your name off the lists when you leave or your name is taken off automatically when you sit at another table. This would keep the lists a lot cleaner and save time when notifying people of seats because you are no longer waiting on people that are no longer there or don't want them any more. Also, it gives the house a more realistic list of people that want to start a new game so new games are more likely to run.

I'm under no illusions that something like this will happen any time soon. But if we don't express our desire for something like this, how are the people that make these decisions supposed to know there is even an interest for a system like this? You have to start somewhere and I think just getting the lists of current games online (preferably with the lists of names/initials so you can track your own place in line) would be a great start. I wouldn't have to wait for Stan to post a game report (realistically, he can't post one at a time that is convenient to everyone and he does take time off) and the ability to track my own (or my friend's) position on the list would be great too.

Sorry for being soo late

Time for a live game report Wednesday 5:35pm


(35) Live games


(2) 2-4 LHE
(1) 3-6 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(2) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE


(1) 1-2 PLO
(1) 10-20 O.E.


(12) 1-2 NL
(11) 2-5 NL
(2) 5-10 NL
10-20 NL 4 on the list
10-25 NL 5 on the list


(217) 11am $100 + $20 NL Tournament


BBJP $127,662

Stan

You ought to be sorry, Stan. You don't work nearly hard enough.

Same for me

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The laziness of these room managers never ceases to amaze me.

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The following reads the same way: The laziness of these room managers never ceases to amaze me.

How often does the PLO game run?

How big does it play/average stack?

Lastly, what are the house rules re: Mississippi Straddle, running it twice...

PLO generally gets called on a daily basis - it will run as long as the players a)show up b)are willing to start shorthanded and let the game fill.

If it starts (whether its 4, 5, 6 handed) - within half an hour you will usually be playing 8+ handed. We've had a few must move games lately too, which is just awesomeness.

It plays medium deep, most players are buying in for 100-200 big blinds and playing. The good games will feature multiple 500 bb stacks (a couple weekends ago I had the third biggest stack at $1200 about 4 hours into the game).

No live straddles of any sort in Atlantic City. No running it twice (this I'd love to have). Some games will have player-enforced $5 to come in, but its never a binding rule...to paraphrase our Ruler of the East - "If you want $5 to bring in, play 2/5"

Ruler of the East is the Best

Stan has mentioned that they are looking into this and may have something in the works but I would like to ask for something in addition to this.

Stan: Can you ask the Web guys to please change out that horrible picture on the Poker room page? The player collecting his own chips from the pot with his hand like an inch away from the rack just tilts me every time I see it!!

Not to mention the fact how does he plan on pulling them into his stack anyhow...the board is between his stack and the pot!

I agree, this is odd looking to anybody that has played in a casino. His fingers are actually touching the rack. The deck shouldn't still be in the dealer's hand. The player shouldn't be reaching for the pot, the dealer should have killed the losing hands and should be pushing the pot.

And if you look at it, the table is tiny (or that guy has REALLY long arms).

Oh well, there's marketing for you. No reality required.

Just checked, my room comps are gone too. Wonder what's happening at Borgata that they're pulling back on comps. Guess we'll all be staying over at Harrah's from now on.

Blue,

Your poker offer didn't change. It was your slot offer that expired. At the Borgata you can only get one offer for comp rooms. If you play poker, tables and slots and are eligible for comp room offers from all three, the only offer loaded to your account it the best of the three. So, it would seem that the slot offer was the best in your case.

Stan