OMG I left that table at 5PM Guess it never would have happened if I were there, but u never know

Dunno if this has been asked before, but how much would i have to play to get the "poker rate" for a room?

http://www.theborgata.com/getjp.cfm

You're right, 2/5 pays for the BBJ 'more' then 1/2 or 5/10. I was just pointing out that making 5/10 qualify at $100 is much more fair then having it qualify at $20.

To be fair though, they have to balance ease of administration by dealers (which is served by having consistent pot amounts regardless of limit) with keeping it fair to the limit. Seems like what they do now is reasonable.

And just to be clear, I'm now mostly a 2/5NL player in the room. So I know I'm getting screwed.

game report please

I have said over and over again the BBJP is bad for poker. Everybody that plays in AC is in the same spot as you. The Borgata was the last to start the BBJP. We had no choice but to try and compete with the rest of the poker rooms.

Stan

One last thought on the BBJP subject. At least in AC the BBJP minimum requirements are four deuces unlike four eights in Conn. Also, all monies are returned to the players at the Borgata. We do not take any money from the BBJP to help pay for admin cost unlike Conn. I hear 5% of each dollar dropped.

Stan

I'm a 2-5 player that "takes shots" at the 5-10 from time to time.

And personally I hate the Bad beat jackpot because it's a few thousand $$ out of my pocket every year as well as dozens (maybe hundreds) of other players and we need that $ to stay spread around within the poker community instead of in the hands of a select few.

Also, one of the draws to the 5-10NL game for me was that $1 was NOT being taken out of the pot. Just want to say that I'm extremely dissapointed that the BBJP was added to the 5-10 game. It was at least one place I could go from time to time (and had planned on going to full-time eventually) and not have to deal with it.

Also, I don't think it was fair for the 5-10NL games to allowed to participate in the last and current jackpots being that they hardly contributed to the prize pool.

Can anyone tell me why they were? Stan??
Thank you.

just look at it as tips for the dealers, im sure you do that on every hand.

They wanted to be included while the BBJP was over $200k but i told them they had to wait until it hit to be fair. Once it hit they were included. Just because a game has not always been included does not mean that it can't be added. We added the 10-20 LHE game but no one complained because they didn't hit the BBJP right away. Also, the players have contributed while playing other games.

Stan

They weren't allowed to. All through the huge jackpot (the one that hit around the start of last week) it was mentioned that 5/10 would start as soon as that one hit (because they hadn't contributed to it, they weren't eligible).

So I heard only one person tipped when that huge BBJ hit for ~$280k; thoughts from you guys?

And Stan, where would I find you in the room?

You won't today.

Stan

You are quite an elusive guy!

I really do not have any comments on how players tip. It is totally up to the individual how and when to tip. I wish they would be a little generous though when it comes to the BBJP because it is something that may happen only once in a life time for most players and dealers and should be a exciting moment for all involved.

Stan

Hi stan, can you tell me about PLO i n Borgata/AC how often is it spread, what limits. Im starting to learn the game and would like to get a feel for live play

....Side note.

If I hit the BBJ (cmon, one time) can I tip floor people separately or does the no tipping policy still hold?

Please do not tip management!

Stan

Normally it is a 1-2 PLO game. The game though is hard to judge when it might go. Easy to say that the weekends are more likely to see the game take off. Hard to answer this one!

Stan

I understand that but what about the two Back up jackpots, Stan???

They did not contribute to those.

So why were they able to participate in the jackpot that they won and the current jackpot???

No offense, but this is kind of a ridiculous question. They have to start somewhere, right? And could you imagine how much more work it would be to separate out the 5/10 NLHE bbj drop so that that drop is contributing only to the backup pools at the set rates?

There will always be a back up jackpot. It's perpetual, you have to jump in after the current BBJP is hit so we did just that. It seems that you are upset about the 5-10 being in the BBJP and paying the dollar than it being eligible to get hit. One question mark will do.

Stan

Maybe I'm just misinformed. I thought that there were 3 MAIN back up jackpots. And this is especially evident when any particular jackpot gets extraordinarily large, as it did recently. Of course other back ups would still exist but this was an unusual circumstance as the Jackpot was so high.

I was basing my statement in that I thought it would be fairer to the rest of the room if the 5-10 games would wait until the BIG back up(s) were hit (in this case since $130K or whatever it was)....since they contributed $0 at the time it started. I'm sure the average is much much lower.

Or maybe they could have shared in what was contributed overall during that time period that the 5-10 started??

I'm not happy about the BBJP being added to 5-10NL, (let alone to Borgata at all) but it's not why I'm bringing this up. I'm also not the only one I've heard discuss this at the tables.

Thanks.

Time for a live game report Sunday 5:42pm


(35) Live games

(3) 2-4 LHE
(2) 3-6 LHE
(2) 10-20 LHE
(1) 20-40 LHE
(1) 40-80 LHE

(1) 75-150 Stud

(12) 1-2 NL
(10) 2-5 NL
(3) 5-10 NL


(106) 11am $100 + $20 NL Survivor Tournament


BBJP $118,304


Stan

NIN, if you wait for the backups to be hit, in the amount of time it takes for them to hit the jackpot will build up (and so will the backups, again). Therefore 5/10 would never be able to be added.

I can tell you're upset about 5/10 getting added and hitting right away, but it happened and nothing can be done. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish at this point ?