Im fine admitting I am wrong but if you could prove to me my shove was -EV going on what we know I will happily admit it. I cant do the math at the moment but will have a look when I get home. Again I would be amazed if my play there was -EV.

I have the Mental Game book and also paid over $1K for sessions from Jared a couple of years back without having too much in the way of results unfortunately. At the moment Im also having Hypnotherapy sessions which has shown some improvement in my rage tilt problems.

Im not sure where this notion of me wanting to become pro has come from though. I have my own business which I am very happy with and really have no intention of ever having to sit at a computer for 8 hours a day 5 or 6 days a week to earn a living.

Yeah I appreciate a lot of the hands are terrible, like I say Im not posting them thinking I played most of them well and just got unlucky.

I do think you make a very good description of how it feels for me half the time playing Zoom though. Its like my WR from last year at NL25 just playing for a bit of fun on the regular tables is probably in the top 5% of players at that level and those games were just so easy for me to play. I really should move back to the regular tables but Zoom has me hooked and is perfect for me when I only have little bits of time to play. Its also perfect for when I only want to play on about 10 buyins which for the most part has been most of this year.

Check/raise on the turn totally fine against a reg? He is going to bet a lot in this situation when I check isnt he?

Bet bet C/evaluate or bet on total blanks, plenty of Jx that pays us off. See no reason to get fancy here.

Whats not to love?



I guess KJs is way too light to iso here? My bad read on the river saves me.

IAWT.

You're getting called down quite light, so why are you slowing down when you actually have a hand?

Bad stuff happen when I bet bet lol.





At least im starting to flop well, thats a bonus.

Just a couple more hands to convince myself Im jinxed.

I have to defend a 3bet at some point and because he makes it small I decide now is the time.




Oh well at least he is as scared as me that someone always has the nuts when they call a flop in a 3bet pot.

Nice river.......

To be honest Ive played pretty well today and these hands really are the worst of the worst. BR is back up a bit and I might play a bit more 6max later. I guess thats one way I can do it, just try and keep playing a bit of 6max to get a proper hang of how it plays and then build back up at FR by just playing like I have this afternoon. Its really exploitable but really who is exploiting it. I mean my fold to 3bet is about 75% yet when I get to SD people always have the top of their ranges unless they are a total spaz or me.

My flop cbet is about 50% but again I may as well just bet when I hit as bluffing costs me so much money as people arnt folding past the turn that often unless I have the nuts.

It's so funny seeing you post these super insignificant BS hands, and moaning about them.

Seriously... get the **** over it.

The thread title is LOL.

Got to try and keep the audience amused lol. Let's face it if it wasn't for morbid curiosity people would stop reading.

Terrible hands, terrible mindset. I didn't think this thread could go much downhill after your last meltdown yet ..

But thanks for showing me what not to do. There's a value in that too.

Glad I could help you. If you need more help I have a ton more stuff that will probably help you. I will probably have to charge you for the real good stuff though ;-)

We have a few hands together at Nl50 no?

Im tempted myself to return to FR even after 500 hands or so of 6 max.

But i shall resist the temptation until ive played at least 10k hands ... although i am dropping my table count to 6.

Playing only 6 tables means i can take a shot at the next level much sooner imo.

Im not sure what it is about FR ... just seems easier .. or easier to handle because its less variance.

I think the games play a lot differently even from the small experience Ive had Zoom anyway.

Micro Zoom FR you get past the flop against a Tag and its rare you can value bet TP by the river where as I showed in that video you can value bet quite light at 6max.

Its weird how the blind wars work as in 6max people are simply not defending that often but at FR I get played back at a ton which seems strange. Its like they have sat there all that time and theres no way they are folding their hand to a min raise.

Only on occasion have I seen people raise light at NL10 6max and even when they have done it it has been with hands that have very good equity against TP. FR is FR and most raises are the nuts unless its a big whale. NL10 is probably the last level where some tags actually will raise when they flop TP, that is almost a no no at NL25 + NL50 although I bet a bit more of it goes on above there in some situations where you can actually raise TP for value.

Stack off ranges are just as tight at 6max as in FR which surprised me as no matter how loose I play when the money goes in pre you will be against AA/KK and very very rarely someone will get it in with AK but most people are flatting it if you 3bet or 4bet. Post flop is the same and I wouldnt be surprised if it were unprofitable to get bottom set all in when the turn is raised.

Best advice from a tilt monkey is that 9.9/10 people are just playing their hands when there is a decent amount of money in the pot. 9/10 someone bets the turn in a 3bet pot unless you are up against a total ****** one pair wont be enough. When someone check/calls in a 3bet pot they have at least TP but are afraid you have flopped a set.

Oh and fold everytime someone takes a bet/check/bet line seriously unless you have the nuts.

I would say play pretty loose pre flop, fold lots to 3bets and the only real bluff to make is a cbet when you have missed and dont go much further than that and I think that style would almost guarentee profit.

Pity I cant play like that once I have money in the pot.

I don't know your SN but i would guess so.

I also didn't mean any disrespect by that post it's just i see the patterns of thinking in some of your whiney comments that i know very well myself.

I bet i play way worse than you technically when we are both on our A games but at least i am able to recognize when i play like **** and realize it's me who's responsible for the results most of the time.

Just snap out of this self-pity, "running bad" mode and you'll do great. By posting things like "ofcourse stuff like this happens" "oh at least i am starting to flop well" you are just reinforcing this result oriented wasteful thinking that leads nowhere. Just stop filling your mind with this trash and think about how and where to get edge instead. S.hit, i think i even read this exact concept in a COTW written by you.

Also, what works for me for this kind of issue is just putting in massive volume daily, it helps me to see how all of the stuff you posted here in the last 2 pages is super standard and how it all fits into the big picture and just how stupid it is to whine about it.

Check this out, how good am I getting?

Of course not raising pre because when a 15/12 limps and all that.......





River to test me and as Cole Trickle said "Harry, Im through it".

Very likely the best response you have gotten so far. And all I see this guy post is trolls(I like it btw, specially vs Rapidesh).

From taking a quick look at your last 5-7 days worth of HH it seems like you have some big leaks in the following areas, ask your coach to help you there.

1) You pay off vs River raises way to often
2) it seems like you always play your draws way to aggresive (ie if someone raises pre and has a 50% flop cbet and bets a 987xx board it is not the time to raise a naked flush draw
3) You bluff far to much on rivers where the board texture doesn't change (ie Villain is not folding when the river is a brick)

4) Your not getting enough value on Turns

i think mart is well aware of the mistakes he made and definitely understands why their wrong from a fundamental perspective but he just wasn't playing his A-game at the time.

Like Hicham says, this could possibly be your best post.

Thank you, you make some very good points. That mentality you mention is just so hard to get out of. Most of the stuff yesterday was half joking and I was way past getting angry with the hands that I posted, that may be a bad thing though because once you stop caring and just expect stuff to happen Im not sure thats a better place than the old me who used to rage tilt.

Thanks again for the constructive criticism.

I think a lot of it is old bad habits that I have got in to.

Like the first one and also calling river bets when I know Im beat as well as raises is something I have done for a while. I just need to see that I am beat. That sounds stupid and after calling over and over and seeing that I am I just dont have the discipline to be able to click that fold button.

The second one I just stop checking peoples stats mid hand, I see the preflop stuff and then it seems like I resort to fish mode and just play my cards. Thats probably been a bit harsh on myself but thats basically what I feel I do at times. For some reason I always want to try and test the people who cant be bluffing.

Third one I had a couple yesterday like you mention where I actually didnt fire the third barrel and was quite proud of myself as If I did I know I would have been posting them in this thread whining about how people cant fold. I guess that is a bit of improvement.

I dont think this is the first time that you have mentioned this and is something I know about but again theres stuff that is stopping me from making improvements in this area. Like one of my thoughts above is something like once we get to the turn then people always have a strong hand. Rational me says that isnt true but irrational me is the one that is thinking at those times when I have a decision to make on the turn.

I appreciate your comments and also everyone who has posted constructive stuff over the last few days. Thanks. Its a tough time for me poker wise trying to improve on these mindset issues that have tormented me probably nearly since I started playing.

Next time Im coming back as some one who says its the taking part that matters, that would rid me of this ultra competivness that I dont think is too productive in a game like poker. I can see it in my girlfriends young daughter who is 6 and its a very fine line knowing that its good to be competitive to a certain extent but take it too far and it can be a hindrance as I know all too well that its hard to learn when you have a paddy everytime you dont happen to win.

Good stuff.

Approach it like an investor who has a pot of money to invest in hands. Its not about beating your opponents, its about investing your money in situations that should provide a return in the long run.

And if you need to feel that competitive edge to stay interested, save it until the end of the month when you can look at your (hopefully) bigger pot of money and say.... "Yeh... I beat those MF-ers..."

Also, definitely have an achievable long-term goal. Even if its just to enjoy playing, and learning about yourself along the way.

Take it seriously enough to enjoy the challenge, but not so seriously that it really matters what the outcome is.

Sometimes I blame poker for making me feel bad. But I love the game, and its my reaction to it that is making me feel bad. Its a good mental challenge, and can make you a better person IRL if you can conquer it. I'm very much still on this quest.

Just a quick couple of hands......

Just double checking this is totally fine.

Villain is 50/0 after 12.



This one is a honest question again, Villain is 18/15 after 55 no other relevant reads.

Is this a fold on the turn? That almost sounds crazy but I dont see many people bluff raising and I have to hope he has a lower flush.



We can say he could raise with worse and name lots of hands but it seems Im the only one bluff raising at this level and I think if he is bluffing a lot of people give up on the river so if the turn isnt a fold I think the river could be very close. Thoughts?

Both look standard to me.