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03-31-2013 , 07:25 AM
Had to do another video due to the other one not uploading correctly so its all set and ready to go.

Anyone who is kind enough to take a look or thinks it might be of help then please PM for the link. Just people I know and regular users of this thread please.

I dont think this ones as exciting as the first but theres still a few spots come up that could be interesting. I had to overlap the tables to get around the sizing problems i were having but it probably makes it easier to watch.
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03-31-2013 , 07:46 AM
Does that mean I can't ask you for a link?

I don't wanna feel left out!
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03-31-2013 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by rxrx
Does that mean I can't ask you for a link?

I don't wanna feel left out!
No your ok, I recognize you from FR forum so no probs. Pm`d you.
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03-31-2013 , 09:40 AM
I'd be interested. Not got much else to do tonight.
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03-31-2013 , 01:47 PM
No idea how you get away with betting so small ..

Every time i try that tactic i get my backside raised like its going out of fashion.
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03-31-2013 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard
No idea how you get away with betting so small ..

Every time i try that tactic i get my backside raised like its going out of fashion.
Which spots are you thinking about?

I guess its all about picking your spots and judging peoples ranges well. If you get it wrong you look stupid when you miss value but it looks pretty cool when you make the bet when they wouldnt call bigger.

When raised I would say 9/10 they will actually have the hand that they are repping.
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03-31-2013 , 02:35 PM
Ive watched the video ... but i will watch it again and look for spots to discuss.

My initial feeling was you where not getting enough value in some spots when i think you could have bet more ..especially on the turn.

But that seemed to be countered by getting thin value in other spots.

Seems a bit weird when you dont bet enough in spots where you could and then betting thin in spots where its debatable.

It would be interesting if we played on the same tables because im pretty sure i could not help myself raising those small bets ... be interesting to see how you reacted.

Although i am glad to see you playing Zoom
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03-31-2013 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard
Ive watched the video ... but i will watch it again and look for spots to discuss.

My initial feeling was you where not getting enough value in some spots when i think you could have bet more ..especially on the turn.

But that seemed to be countered by getting thin value in other spots.

Seems a bit weird when you dont bet enough in spots where you could and then betting thin in spots where its debatable.

It would be interesting if we played on the same tables because im pretty sure i could not help myself raising those small bets ... be interesting to see how you reacted.

Although i am glad to see you playing Zoom
Turn bet sizing has long been a problem for me and is an ongoing work in progress.

I think the small bet becomes a problem against people who recognize what they are for but to balance that sometimes I will make the small bets hoping to get a raise because I think I have a very good read on the villains range.

I think I can get away with a bit more at Zoom so far than I could on the regular tables, people just seem to be folding so often. Its like playing FR people are playing so tight. My redline must look amazing lol.
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03-31-2013 , 04:31 PM
Erm.......


    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16792011

    BTN: $11.70 (117 bb)
    SB: $16.91 (169.1 bb)
    Hero (BB): $13.77 (137.7 bb)
    UTG: $10 (100 bb)
    MP: $10.94 (109.4 bb)
    CO: $10 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K J
    4 folds, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.60) 2 9 5 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, SB calls $0.80

    Turn: ($3.00) A (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.70, SB calls $1.70

    River: ($6.40) 7 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4

    Spoiler:
    Results: $14.40 pot ($0.65 rake)
    Final Board: 2 9 5 A 7
    SB showed 3 5 and won $13.75 ($6.55 net)
    Hero showed K J and lost (-$7.20 net)



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    Obviously put me on a draw.
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    03-31-2013 , 05:13 PM
    Really didnt take long to get me thinking the world is against me. I mean how the **** do people run so well? Its such a ****ing obvious fold on the river but theres no way he called down with JQ.

    Im folding to most 3bets but people seem to be calling me so wide and smashing flops, what the **** is he thinking when he looks at 66 there? Oh this dude cant fold and is bound to pay me off if he flops top pair and I manage to flop a set. Oh look at that I flopped a set I mean wtf?


      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16792141

      BTN: $10.76 (107.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): $30.04 (300.4 bb)
      BB: $9.38 (93.8 bb)
      UTG: $21.16 (211.6 bb)
      MP: $22.55 (225.5 bb)
      CO: $22.37 (223.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
      2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.90

      Flop: ($2.80) A 6 K (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.80, BTN calls $0.80

      Turn: ($4.40) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1, BTN calls $1

      River: ($6.40) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $2, BTN raises to $5, Hero calls $3

      Spoiler:
      Results: $16.40 pot ($0.74 rake)
      Final Board: A 6 K 5 T
      BTN showed 6 6 and won $15.66 ($7.66 net)
      Hero mucked Q A and lost (-$8 net)



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      I honestly feel I do better when just random pressing buttons. Next vid Im doing is me just doing that.
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      03-31-2013 , 05:27 PM
      I cant even hit a good draw nowadays lol


        Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16792161

        BTN: $14.96 (149.6 bb)
        Hero (SB): $11.21 (112.1 bb)
        BB: $30.16 (301.6 bb)
        UTG: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
        MP: $13.56 (135.6 bb)
        CO: $11.60 (116 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with K 6
        2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1, BB folds, CO calls $0.70

        Flop: ($2.10) 3 Q 4 (2 players)
        Hero bets $1.50, CO raises to $4.30, Hero raises to $10.21 and is all-in, CO calls $5.91

        Turn: ($22.52) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: ($22.52) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $22.52 pot ($1.01 rake)
        Final Board: 3 Q 4 8 J
        Hero showed K 6 and lost (-$11.21 net)
        CO showed A T and won $21.51 ($10.30 net)



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        I am on a 3bet frenzy at the moment lol
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        03-31-2013 , 05:34 PM
        And stacked again by KK lol

        I think its fair to say this just isnt working is it? Im just 2 easily frustrated, I ended up checking my results and found I were 4 buyins up and then proceeded to spew that off with needless play.

        Meh almost seems a waste of a month. I guess I should just stick to NL10 where it dosnt cost me too much to tilt and I can be a slight winner. Pretty pissed off with myself at the moment but that and poker seem to go hand in hand for me unfortunatley.

        Heres the problems, I just have to check my results, I just cant help myself. I need to know if I am up or down to justify my play.
        I have to feel like I am the best player at the table and that means me doing stupid plays to try and prove that and then get angry with myself when they dont work because people are just playing their cards.

        The month off was pretty cool and coming back and nothing changing just kind of highlights how frustrating poker actually is for me. What is the answer? Im really not sure, I obviously cant play the game to any serious level because my mindset is the ****s and I may as well just take some money outside and set fire to it at times but I still want to play occasionally.

        Meh all a bit **** really.

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        03-31-2013 , 05:58 PM
        Well ... at least your red line is probably better than mine ..

        I need to learn to bet smaller like you because my first 6 max session went a bit like bet / bet / get raised / fold !!

        Played 361 hands and was break even but my red line was down 127bb.

        Maybe 8 tabling is a bit too much to start off with
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        03-31-2013 , 06:32 PM
        Haha here we go last 3 days lol

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        03-31-2013 , 06:55 PM
        I just cant help myself.....



          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16792451

          BTN: $9.22 (92.2 bb)
          Hero (SB): $13.15 (131.5 bb)
          BB: $10 (100 bb)
          UTG: $17.66 (176.6 bb)
          MP: $10.02 (100.2 bb)
          CO: $13.97 (139.7 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
          2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1, BB folds, CO calls $0.70

          Flop: ($2.10) 6 2 9 (2 players)
          Hero bets $1.20, CO calls $1.20

          Turn: ($4.50) T (2 players)
          Hero bets $2.40, CO calls $2.40

          River: ($9.30) 5 (2 players)
          Hero bets $8.55 and is all-in, CO calls $8.55

          Spoiler:
          Results: $26.40 pot ($1.19 rake)
          Final Board: 6 2 9 T 5
          Hero showed A K and lost (-$13.15 net)
          CO showed Q Q and won $25.21 ($12.06 net)



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          I mean whats the point here. I never hit a flop and when I do I cant get paid off. Waste of ****ing time.
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          03-31-2013 , 06:57 PM
          Up to that hand I had played a really solid session and then1 hand where someone dosnt fold and thats it I will soon be on tilt. But seriously if I called down there I would be crushed.

          Im literally a hopeless case.
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          03-31-2013 , 07:01 PM
          Lol just keep running in to hands and people playing perfectly.

            Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16792491

            BTN: $8.25 (82.5 bb)
            SB: $10.80 (108 bb)
            Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
            UTG: $7.46 (74.6 bb)
            MP: $20.87 (208.7 bb)
            CO: $21.65 (216.5 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 7
            4 folds, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

            Flop: ($0.60) 6 T 5 (2 players)
            SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, SB raises to $3.80, Hero raises to $9.70 and is all-in, SB calls $5.90

            Turn: ($20) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
            River: ($20) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $20 pot ($0.90 rake)
            Final Board: 6 T 5 K T
            SB showed J J and won $19.10 ($9.10 net)
            Hero showed 8 7 and lost (-$10 net)



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            03-31-2013 , 07:03 PM
            PMSL seriously.....


              Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16792501

              BTN: $21.31 (213.1 bb)
              SB: $34.09 (340.9 bb)
              BB: $12.38 (123.8 bb)
              UTG: $10 (100 bb)
              Hero (MP): $17.84 (178.4 bb)
              CO: $11.88 (118.8 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 9
              UTG raises to $0.23, Hero calls $0.23, CO folds, BTN raises to $0.80, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.57

              Flop: ($1.98) A 9 3 (2 players)
              Hero bets $0.10, BTN raises to $1.10, Hero calls $1

              Turn: ($4.18) J (2 players)
              Hero bets $0.10, BTN raises to $3.40, Hero raises to $15.94 and is all-in, BTN calls $12.54

              River: ($36.06) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

              Spoiler:
              Results: $36.06 pot ($1.50 rake)
              Final Board: A 9 3 J 2
              BTN showed A A and won $34.56 ($16.72 net)
              Hero showed 9 9 and lost (-$17.84 net)



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              3rd time in last 2 days Im on the wrong end of set over set. What a ****ing joke.

              **** you Stars.

              **** you Poker.

              Its like I can play small pots to the day is over and make a profit but as soon as I get in a 3bet pot, nobody can fold and amazingly everyone smashes the flop against me.

              What the **** are you meant to do? Just not put any money in the pot if its getting big unless you have a big hand? Thats right idiot because as soon as you do you are ****ed. Need to just joing the 2+2 winners stable and fold to every ****ing raise and not put your money in without the nuts. Easy ****ing game. Get ****ed.

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              03-31-2013 , 07:16 PM
              Stop playing!
              You are on tilt!
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              03-31-2013 , 07:22 PM
              Its quite simple and it goes something like this:-

              I dont play poker and Im calm as hell without much of a worry in the world.

              I play poker and I tilt like hell.

              So I either decide to play poker on tilt and try to keep it in check or just quit.
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              03-31-2013 , 08:07 PM
              You dropped down the number of tables you're playing right? Feeling like you're not getting any cards is a pretty normal thing, you just gotta be prepared for it. Patience is huge. It might just be that you're not getting as many hands as your used to do to less tables, so you're getting frustrated during dry runs and overreacting. I'm not saying add more tables, just saying if this is your problem recognize it and do your best to deal with it.
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              04-01-2013 , 04:48 AM
              In the space of 19 minutes you go from this .

              Quote:
              **** you Stars.

              **** you Poker.
              To a more rational this ..

              Quote:
              Its quite simple and it goes something like this:-

              I dont play poker and Im calm as hell without much of a worry in the world.

              I play poker and I tilt like hell.

              So I either decide to play poker on tilt and try to keep it in check or just quit.
              I do exactly the same as this and have done for as long as i can remember ... this just has to stop otherwise you will never truly enjoy poker.

              You just have to fall back on all this theory work your doing and just stay focused regardless of how the sessions are going.

              Ive said it before but allowing emotion to control logic is the number one factor you have to address.

              And another thing ....

              That red line is just scandalous !!, it just shows where your game is, so stop ruining it by over playing non made hands.

              Considering you have a problem with mistake tilt .. i would suggest cutting down on these big mistakes because they seem so unnecessary.
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              04-01-2013 , 04:52 AM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by Malefiicus
              You dropped down the number of tables you're playing right? Feeling like you're not getting any cards is a pretty normal thing, you just gotta be prepared for it. Patience is huge. It might just be that you're not getting as many hands as your used to do to less tables, so you're getting frustrated during dry runs and overreacting. I'm not saying add more tables, just saying if this is your problem recognize it and do your best to deal with it.
              This is a issue i will have to address too .. dropping from 16 tables to 8 or less takes some time to get used too, means im literally playing half the hands i would normally do each session.

              That means i need to double my bb/100 earn rate to justify it which puts added pressure and leads to pushing things a little too much.
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              04-01-2013 , 04:53 AM
              Im not sure what it is really. Im playing 2 tables of Zoom but it feels about right. I just get too frustrated when I see people do stupid things because I all think to myself is that if I pulled **** like that I wouldnt be so lucky. Like I had a guy that called my 3bet when I had AK with Q7s and stacked off with middle pair and obviously I didnt improve. I had the 2 other set over set hands as well and them 3 didnt really effect me but I guess it just builds up and I cant control it.

              I dont even adapt to how people must see me. I mean I looked at my stats this morning and I must look pretty crazy really playing 30% with a 10% 3bet probably puts me on the looser side. Im stealing over 65% and not expecting people to play back its like of course people are going to play back but as I have seen they are going to do it badly but to compound that my way to play back is to bluff more and then get annoyed when people dont fold.

              The adjustments are easy to see but I just cant do them.
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              04-01-2013 , 04:56 AM
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              Originally Posted by Hap_Hazard

              That red line is just scandalous !!, it just shows where your game is, so stop ruining it by over playing non made hands.

              Considering you have a problem with mistake tilt .. i would suggest cutting down on these big mistakes because they seem so unnecessary.
              Haha that redline would be pretty cool if the green line went up as well.

              Your right about the mistakes but I can be playing rationally then I find myself in a 3bet pot with Ace high and the next thing you know Im shoving the river and how often are people folding in 3bet pots when they call the turn?

              Gonna jump straight back on the horse today and see what happens.

              Just checked how Im doing by position and I am losing at 132bb/100 in the SB!!!!! I wonder where my big losses are coming from? Will try and tone that down a little bit today.

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