Lol yeah right.




Coming from someone who cant hit a draw not only does he call my 4bet with 8T but also flops a draw that gets there as an added bonus.

Villain in the 99 hand was super aggressive I just thought at some point he would take a stab.

Its hard to say about what peoples ranges are on the whole because at the minute I seem to be smashing the top of most people but hopefully it will level out.

I guess solid is one way to describe those guys. They are super exploitable but probably make money by the fact that players like me still pay them off. So they keep their games really simple, like a couple of them are only 3betting about 2% and only about 4% from the blinds. On top of that they are folding a ton to cbet and literally playing fit or fold and not putting money in the pot without the goods.

I discussed this last night with Klairic and a lot of my problem comes from thinking that other players are capable of thinking about stuff when most of them dont see much past their cards. I guess thats frustrating in the sense that some of those guys are making money by doing nothing special while I am trying to bust my balls over thinking stuff and going back to a high variance game that I used to play.

I understand how frustrating zoom can be, or poker for that matter. But some of these hands are pure spew, and you do yourself no good spewing off BBs in the most horrible spots.

QJo: Only thing I like about this hand is the open from the btn, sizing pre is w/e, I am a strong believer of 2x btns but I know we've had this discussion before and you've made your points. Flop I wouldn't cbet ''ever'', and definitely 100% not for this size. Both turn + river barrel + their sizing make no sense to me. And I can only class this as spew, I think the whole play as a whole(so the 3 barrels + sizing) is going to be hugely -EV against the opponents calling range. Flop is questionable at best, but I am not cbetting these flops.

99: Why check 3 times? Why not just cbet at least 1 street? and when played like this bet the river, why the hell would villain bluff any of these streets(in particular river) when it's obvious he has a hand he wants to get to showdown with? Why would you cbet QJo on this type of board? But check the nuts 3 times? makes no sense to me.

I also question your cbet sizing, but I'll be completely honest, it's maybe the biggest issue for me aswell. Like for example when you have the board smashed, and villain ''can't'' have much, cbetting 80% pot seems bad. Why not half pot and hope to get lighter calls?

I go after spots like these where as a lot of people dont bother. Play is right against the loose 3bettor in the BB but then run in to a hand from the SB whos play is weird because he is really loose as well and I thought he would be the one to 3bet but it looks like he prefers flatting his big hands and once again I oblige by making him the most money.

i see your points for the 99 hand, fwiw id cbet for the reasons you give and bcos i expect to get played back on a lot on paired flops.

i can relate a lot to what your saying, ive played a tonne of 6max zoom and had countless times where i just thought "why didnt i just wait until i have a hand" and spent a lot of time running high 3bets, opening wide etc and it just seems so unnecessary when ppl cant fold.

Yeah I agree with a lot of what you are saying but I just cant help it. For some reason I just cant stop spewing my stacks away. Its totally crazy.

Im now in the frame of mind where I think everyone has flopped a monster against me when they call my bet(Usually they have like )

Like this hand here, I convince myself that he must have AA/KK and I end up playing it ******edly but tbh how I can ever put him on the hand he shows up with is beyond me.







It shows the games are good and I have no need to spew like I do. Cant stop it though.

Sigh, should just fold the flop.





Out played once again.

fold flop and lose 25bb's or take the line you did and lose 105bb's.

not taking a dig but you know by now

Don't know if i'm folding the flop but after the turn you can take a lot out of his range and fold.

id fold on a flop that dry, ik his range is polarized but in 3bet pots i expect them to have it

AKo: I think you can happily bet OTT + OTR. We're getting so much value OTT from 2nd pair hands and random KX. And then i think we can bet OTR pretty small with the same logic.

KK: Calling flop here, i rarely think we're getting bluffed OTT though. Folding OTT.

Just looked through the last few pages of this thread man, and i mean this in the most positive way, but i think you'll do much better posting hands you have trouble with, rather than random spews and bad beats. You know you're just on the wrong end of variance atm.

The KK hand might be kind of result orriented, I don't think we can get away from this spot unless vilain is very nitty.

He doesn't CB 99 because he's afraid of runner-runner quads for the other guy.

Honestly I think I like shoving over his raise because he could still have JJ/QQ in his range. I do think if I flat and see that turn I should fold because its hard for him to be bluffing at this point.

Agreed turn should be a fold in my eyes. I dont beat much now and the Queen is an awful card.

Sort of agree as well even though its contradicting what I said because its very rare that I get raised in a 3bet pot and they dont have a monster. People just tend to flat decent hands rather than raise them.

Agreed with betting the turn and river with the KK hand. Im just set in to they always have it mode.

Agreed about posting better hands but it just dosnt happen. I just cant stop myself from falling back in to this habit.

I think the turn is a fold but maybe I should just get it in on the flop.

Nah Im just thinking because I actually hit a flop theres no chance in hell that the villain can have a piece of it to pay me off. If I posted the guys stats it would be pretty clear why I am checking the flop but turn and defo the river should at least be a bet.

Going to take a few days off and maybe try and clear my head a bit. Its just not going consistantly enough for the moment its partly variances fault but mostly mine in that any bad luck I see is an excuse for me to spew in stupid spots.

Its the same problems I have had for years so this is nothing new and I still dont have much in the way of figuring out what to do with them. One bonus is that my tilt problem does seem to be under control and it is a while since I have tilted properly but that is showing weaknesses in my game which I need to look at.

Not sure what the way forward is from here because the truth is that if I could cut out the plain spewing then I would probably be at NL200 by now but it isnt that simple and theres a bunch of stuff that stop me from doing that. Maybe its a case of stoping posting on here altogether as this is seemingly fueling my results orientedness which I need to stop.

Will have to see what the next few days bring.

learn to not check results imo, just post hands as they come up or w/e

This is my last post here for a little while as I take a couple of days off to mull over things. My last task to do with Poker has just finished which was going through a few hands to pick out obvious spews, not talking little potential mistakes but full blown bad play spews. Ive only been able to go through about 18K of the hands as thats all I have on my works computer but I have at least 5K more at home that I know include some more really bad played hands.

I basically went through the biggest hands and at the point I started spewing just wrote that amount down. The actual amount that I got off those hands was $492.25 so almost 10 buy ins in spewed off money. That would take my WR up to about 7bb/100 and the reality is that it is the difference of me been stuck at NL50 for a few months and moving up to NL100 in just a month or two.

That really is a massive amount of money. I were doing the same at NL25 and was still able to get nearly 11bb/100 over a large sample but the step up seems to have hit me quite hard and I am massively over adjusting to how I perceive people should be playing when in fact a lot of the play is just about the same as NL25.

Im going to take a couple of days off, I have explained things to my staker and he is fine with that as he says he has had the same problems in the past. I have also discussed about quitting the stake and maybe starting again at the bottom but I am not sure I want to do that and my staker also wants to keep me. I have also discussed things with Elliot and we had a good session last night covering a lot of the problems I am facing and quite a number of things came to light as to the reasons behind what I am doing.

Long and short of it is that I need to start taking responsibility for my actions at the tables and realize that everyone gets unlucky but I am also getting lucky as well but a lot of it is still down to me making mistakes. If I cant blame been unlucky like I have been doing then that gives me the chance to actually learn something by those mistakes but that cant happen if my thoughts are clounded by how unlucky I am.

If that means stopping posting on here then so be it as again this is a bad habit that I easily fall back in to once I have faced a standard bad beat. That turns in to a vicious cycle and its one I struggle to recover from and I become so results oriented that it effects my play.

All the best to everyone who has been reading.

GL the fact that you are looking to find and address your problems/mistakes will stand to you.

GL man, looks like we’ve hit breaking point at about the same time!

I think if nothing else you need to try to stay away from posts that follow along the lines of:

‘So typical, look at this hand where I get 2 outered.’
‘Why is it when I hit my big hands they have nothing to pay me with, but when they have the nuts I always have a big losing hand.’
‘As usual, they play badly and get rewarded with the perfect board runout against me.’

You write a lot of posts along those lines, and all they do is just perpetuate the cycle in your mind. You think you run badly, so you make mistakes in trying to avoid getting coolered, then your winrate drops, so you think you’re running even worse, etc etc. I know this because it’s exactly what I do. I think the best thing you can do is:

a) Not post bad beat hands. Only post hands where you had a tough decision and want advice.
b) Try to mentally stamp down on any thought along the lines of the negative ones above. Any time one of these thoughts comes into your head while you’re playing, just say to yourself, ‘Did I make the right decision in the hand?’ if yes, congratulate yourself and remind yourself that you did everything that you were supposed to do – play the hand perfectly. If not, work out what mistake you made and try not to make it again. Do that as often as possible, and the results will follow.

That's good advice.

Perhaps also you are expecting/wanting to be at a higher level too much instead of letting it happen organically. I see this problem in myself. Then you take every bad beat worse as you see yourself being pulled further away from your goal. Then you push hands (bluffs etc) to get yourself back on track. And start constanting looking at your graph and thinking "if only that hand had went differently I would have X BR".

Maybe saying to yourself I am playing the next 100,000 hands @ 25nl (or whatever) no matter how I run and not check your progress on HM or PT and not post on 2+2.

I really enjoyed your blog from the start and learned a lot but i have to agree with the other guys that last 10-15 hands you posted are pretty much just complaining about "injustice" and most of those hands are pretty irrelevant. Nobody cares about your quads and sets not being paid off, nor should you.

Hope you get back on track soon.

Yep - I think we all understand this thought process.....or at least understand that we experience it. It's self fulfilling at times.

Good advice.

I enjoyed reading this man. Gl with sorting out your problems, no doubt we'll see you bounce back soon. Everyone needs a break sooner or later.

Hope to see you back soon. Your dedication to the micro FR forum is really awesome.

Post in total agreement. If Mart comments on a hand I read it. One of about three guys I do this to.

Stop being a pussE and play all weekend.



Seriously though. GL

It's a double hard bastard of a game, and can't be cracked easily. As soon as you think it's easy money, it bites you on the ass.