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04-02-2013 , 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloobird
It does seem very much like when you're tilting you lose focus of what the ultimate aim is, and you're just trying to win as many individual hands as possible, rather than win the most money possible.
Thats it. The money dosnt matter and thats probably half the problem, if I were dependant on the money then I could see how I could play different. Like when I were playing staked I didnt tilt too much but then got comfortable and as soon as I strated to tilt with someone elses money I knew I had to end the stake.

At the table it really matters not what stakes I am playing I just want to win and I will try and push any edge to try and achieve that. That attitude dosnt work in poker though.
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04-02-2013 , 01:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MartL
Where abouts do you draw the line when it comes to studying?

Its like all this stuff I have done I am certain is beneficial but It dosnt matter because I forget it when I start to tilt.

So do I just dedicate myself to improving my tilt problems and largely leave the poker side of things and hope that I am good enough to wing it. If I can sort that side of things then I can obviously work on my poker but until this is under some control I am largely wasting my time in my opinion trying to work loads on my game when it would be time better spent working on my mental issues.
Forget studying for a while ... its time to go back to square one in relation to your tilt issues.

In a silly way ... i think studying when you have tilt issues is almost a form of procrastination, because you will almost avoid playing due to the stress it causes but still feel you need to do something poker related.

This just means you drag out the problems over a much longer period because your not dealing with the issues that are causing the most harm.

Dont get me wrong ... we all need to study to improve our game but there has to be pecking order as to what we need to learn.

Whats the point in learning hand ranges when all you can think of is wanting to throttle someone for playing a hand like a idiot and running off with your stack ?

Im basically procrastinating myself in this thread by telling you what needs to be done whilst i make zero effort into dealing with the same issues you have !

But from today ... im going to listen to my own words and seriously try and put in sessions where ALL focus will be on controlling my tilt ..

Obviously ..im not going to sit down and act like Mother Theresa straight off the bat .... but sit down with that idea and work on it session after session.

Then we will start to see a improvement and then we will start to enjoy the game again and then we look into improving our game when the hunger is back.
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04-02-2013 , 03:12 PM
Going to record another session just now, Ive lightened my HUD a little bit so I can record it with no overlap this time. Ive also added min samples to my HUD so Im not taking in to account small sample sizes to try and keep it simple. If I do start getting bigger samples then I can always go back to the old HUD to try and pick up more reads.
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04-02-2013 , 03:20 PM
Hey Mart how are things doing? I have been reading the last couple of pages. I am reading 10nl and thinking wtf...
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04-02-2013 , 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baohoa
Hey Mart how are things doing? I have been reading the last couple of pages. I am reading 10nl and thinking wtf...
Haha bit of a disaster zone at the moment.

Long and short is I got staked to play NL50 and was doing ok but started tilting again so I ended the stake as I didnt want to burn someone elses money. Took a bit of time off and started playing FR again from NL5, tilted a lot and stopped playing for a month and then started playing 6max and tilted a bit lol.

Things in general are really good thanks, how about you whats the latest?
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04-02-2013 , 03:56 PM
Recorded a 30 minute session and played pretty well. Ran good early on without ever threatening to get paid off and then ran in to this hand vs a fish.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2163295
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $17.22
SB: $9.69
BB: $5.10
UTG: $14.86
MP: $10.00
Hero (CO): $17.66

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with Q A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.70) T J Q (2 players)
SB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $2.20, Hero raises to $17.36 all in, SB calls $7.19 all in

Turn: ($19.48) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($19.48) A (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $19.48
SB shows 9 8 (a straight, Eight to Queen)
Hero shows Q A (two pair, Aces and Queens)
SB wins $18.60
(Rake: $0.88)

Ive not checked results but I guess it turned a decent winning session in to a slight losing one. I made some tight folds in the video where I thought I could continue but chose not to because people are showing up with strong hands a lot but I cant really play this one much different can I?

For anyone interested I will put the video up later on and if you have the link for the first one then you will be able to find it from there.
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04-02-2013 , 04:11 PM
Sorry to hear that, not sure if I can help in anyway, but if I can shoot me on skype when you want (not on hands reviewing though...for your own good..lol kidding)
I am doing well, going to Myanmar next week, I can't wait.
Poker wise I am just playing for fun, once a week, but slowly got to the point where I am rolled for 25nl, but I just don't want to get into the whining mood again in case I hit another bad run.
In all these years you had these issues but you always turned out to be a winning player anyway. I didn't really follow lately so I don't know what is going on, but I always got the feeling that you tilt only because you are not playing great and crushing as you should and not because you are really losing or running bad. Is it? In the past I remember you said you were tilting actually having a decent WR. Which really surprised me, because I was expecting a horrible downswing.
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04-02-2013 , 04:20 PM
Got to get it in there for sure. Even here, where he has one of the worst hands you can see (barring AxKh), you're basically a coinflip I think.
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04-02-2013 , 04:45 PM
Have you thought of having a spreadsheet that records how you feel you played in each session, i.e. 'A game' down to 'D game' or whatever? Have a colour code for each one.
If you do that it can become a kinda habit where you're mostly playing you 'A' or 'B' game and you strive to keep extending the run as long as you can.

Might help, might not
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04-02-2013 , 05:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Husker
Have you thought of having a spreadsheet that records how you feel you played in each session, i.e. 'A game' down to 'D game' or whatever? Have a colour code for each one.
If you do that it can become a kinda habit where you're mostly playing you 'A' or 'B' game and you strive to keep extending the run as long as you can.

Might help, might not
This is similar to advice in 'The Poker Hero' but in a journal form. If we can ID what starts the tilt, we have a better chance of managing it.

I think one of the difficult things, is sticking to the good techniques we find. I drift after a couple of days to not bothering to record in journal, but this time I am trying to stick with it.
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04-02-2013 , 07:23 PM
Is the solution to just try and run better?



    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811561

    BTN: $24.35 (243.5 bb)
    SB: $14.53 (145.3 bb)
    BB: $14.84 (148.4 bb)
    UTG: $13.96 (139.6 bb)
    Hero (MP): $10.12 (101.2 bb)
    CO: $14.97 (149.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with T T
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, CO calls $1.50

    Flop: ($5.15) 9 6 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $1, CO calls $1

    Turn: ($7.15) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $1, CO raises to $11.47 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.62

    River: ($20.39) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $20.39 pot ($0.92 rake)
    Final Board: 9 6 7 J A
    Hero showed T T and lost (-$10.12 net)
    CO showed Q Q and won $19.47 ($9.35 net)



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    Best way to play this hand? Once he calls the 4bet just give up and accept his range is JJ/QQ/AK and I dont do well against it or try and bet small to induce from AK?

    Same with the next one.

    Whats my play?

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811581

      BTN: $15.88 (158.8 bb)
      SB: $10.44 (104.4 bb)
      Hero (BB): $11.01 (110.1 bb)
      UTG: $12.23 (122.3 bb)
      MP: $45.47 (454.7 bb)
      CO: $15.32 (153.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
      3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN calls $0.90, SB folds

      Flop: ($2.70) K 4 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Turn: ($2.70) 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1, BTN calls $1

      River: ($4.70) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

      Spoiler:
      Results: $8.70 pot ($0.39 rake)
      Final Board: K 4 3 3 7
      BTN showed A K and won $8.31 ($4.11 net)
      Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$4.20 net)



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      I guess my only saving grace here is that the villain has no hand reading ability and dosnt feel he can stack AK in a steal situation pre, which actually makes me sad for how the games are.

      It is almost bordering on FR tight how people are playing.

      I decided to play a short session as I had half an hour to spare the session lasted 11 minutes and 100 hands before tiltbreaker kicked in as I lost 2 buyins. Ive now dropped 13 buyins in just short of 2K hands, admitedley some of that has been tilt but thats still quite a lot.
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      04-02-2013 , 07:42 PM
      Bet the river here or not bother?


        Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811621

        Hero (BTN): $12.09 (120.9 bb)
        SB: $11.11 (111.1 bb)
        BB: $14.81 (148.1 bb)
        UTG: $13.49 (134.9 bb)
        MP: $21.17 (211.7 bb)
        CO: $4.80 (48 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 K
        3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB calls $0.15, BB folds

        Flop: ($0.50) T 6 4 (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.30

        Turn: ($1.10) T (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

        River: ($2.30) 4 (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero checks

        Spoiler:
        Results: $2.30 pot ($0.10 rake)
        Final Board: T 6 4 T 4
        Hero mucked 8 K and lost (-$1.10 net)
        SB showed A 9 and won $2.20 ($1.10 net)



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        At least I am now looking at getting beat as inevitable but Im starting to believe I really dont have much clue how to play the game.






          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811641

          BTN: $19.94 (199.4 bb)
          SB: $15.02 (150.2 bb)
          BB: $10 (100 bb)
          UTG: $10.31 (103.1 bb)
          MP: $10 (100 bb)
          Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with T Q
          2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

          Flop: ($0.90) J 8 5 (3 players)
          SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

          Turn: ($1.90) K (2 players)
          BB checks, Hero bets $1.40, BB calls $1.40

          River: ($4.70) 4 (2 players)
          BB bets $3.59, Hero folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: $4.70 pot ($0.21 rake)
          Final Board: J 8 5 K 4
          BB mucked and won $4.49 ($2.29 net)
          Hero mucked T Q and lost (-$2.20 net)



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          I cant hit a draw for toffe but I would be betting that river if checked to wouldnt I?
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          04-02-2013 , 07:54 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by MartL
          Is the solution to just try and run better?



            Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811561

            BTN: $24.35 (243.5 bb)
            SB: $14.53 (145.3 bb)
            BB: $14.84 (148.4 bb)
            UTG: $13.96 (139.6 bb)
            Hero (MP): $10.12 (101.2 bb)
            CO: $14.97 (149.7 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP with T T
            UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, CO calls $1.50

            Flop: ($5.15) 9 6 7 (2 players)
            Hero bets $1, CO calls $1

            Turn: ($7.15) J (2 players)
            Hero bets $1, CO raises to $11.47 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.62

            River: ($20.39) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $20.39 pot ($0.92 rake)
            Final Board: 9 6 7 J A
            Hero showed T T and lost (-$10.12 net)
            CO showed Q Q and won $19.47 ($9.35 net)



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            Best way to play this hand? Once he calls the 4bet just give up and accept his range is JJ/QQ/AK and I dont do well against it or try and bet small to induce from AK?

            Same with the next one.

            Whats my play?

              Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811581

              BTN: $15.88 (158.8 bb)
              SB: $10.44 (104.4 bb)
              Hero (BB): $11.01 (110.1 bb)
              UTG: $12.23 (122.3 bb)
              MP: $45.47 (454.7 bb)
              CO: $15.32 (153.2 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
              3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN calls $0.90, SB folds

              Flop: ($2.70) K 4 3 (2 players)
              Hero checks, BTN checks

              Turn: ($2.70) 3 (2 players)
              Hero bets $1, BTN calls $1

              River: ($4.70) 7 (2 players)
              Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

              Spoiler:
              Results: $8.70 pot ($0.39 rake)
              Final Board: K 4 3 3 7
              BTN showed A K and won $8.31 ($4.11 net)
              Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$4.20 net)



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              I guess my only saving grace here is that the villain has no hand reading ability and dosnt feel he can stack AK in a steal situation pre, which actually makes me sad for how the games are.

              It is almost bordering on FR tight how people are playing.

              I decided to play a short session as I had half an hour to spare the session lasted 11 minutes and 100 hands before tiltbreaker kicked in as I lost 2 buyins. Ive now dropped 13 buyins in just short of 2K hands, admitedley some of that has been tilt but thats still quite a lot.

              You can't really blame hand 1 on run bad. 4betting 1010 in these positions is pretty meh without some sick dynamic and betting to induce from ak is fps at its finest. Hand 2 is fine, or you could c/c but as played you're getting value from mid pp's enough to justify being called by the small part of his range that's Kx. You seem like a decent player but if you play with this mindset you're just going to keep losing, simple as that. Gl whatever happens.
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              04-02-2013 , 07:59 PM
              Talk about getting beat up lol.

              Apparently the new thing is to cold 4bet me which has now happened 3 times in this session.

              Add in to that getting rivered over and over and it would be easy for me to get worked up but I really just expect it now. Whether that is a good thing or not Im not really sure.

              Another two hands here I think I played ok but I dont know.

              The first one I guess I could bet the flop and get called by worse.


                Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811771

                BTN: $41.78 (417.8 bb)
                SB: $4.90 (49 bb)
                BB: $6.90 (69 bb)
                UTG: $12.19 (121.9 bb)
                MP: $7.66 (76.6 bb)
                Hero (CO): $13.14 (131.4 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is CO with J A
                2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

                Flop: ($0.65) J 5 K (2 players)
                BB checks, Hero checks

                Turn: ($0.65) 6 (2 players)
                BB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

                River: ($1.25) Q (2 players)
                BB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

                Spoiler:
                Results: $1.85 pot ($0.08 rake)
                Final Board: J 5 K 6 Q
                BB showed 9 Q and won $1.77 ($0.87 net)
                Hero mucked J A and lost (-$0.90 net)



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                Villain in this one again almost plays it perfect so he gets a call on the river given his line makes hardly any sense unless he has a 4......

                  Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811781

                  Hero (BTN): $13.50 (135 bb)
                  SB: $14.41 (144.1 bb)
                  BB: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
                  UTG: $10.88 (108.8 bb)
                  MP: $14.87 (148.7 bb)
                  CO: $14.90 (149 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 T
                  3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

                  Flop: ($0.45) T 4 J (2 players)
                  BB checks, Hero checks

                  Turn: ($0.45) 7 (2 players)
                  BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

                  River: ($0.85) 4 (2 players)
                  BB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $1.65 pot ($0.07 rake)
                  Final Board: T 4 J 7 4
                  Hero mucked 6 T and lost (-$0.80 net)
                  BB showed A 4 and won $1.58 ($0.78 net)



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                  04-02-2013 , 08:04 PM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by Chomma
                  You can't really blame hand 1 on run bad. 4betting 1010 in these positions is pretty meh without some sick dynamic and betting to induce from ak is fps at its finest. Hand 2 is fine, or you could c/c but as played you're getting value from mid pp's enough to justify being called by the small part of his range that's Kx. You seem like a decent player but if you play with this mindset you're just going to keep losing, simple as that. Gl whatever happens.
                  So hand 1 whats your play? Check/fold flop seems really weak and we cant really check/call the flop and fold any turn given the stack sizes.

                  Am I just folding to the 3bet? That seems really tight given its HJ Vs Co and I expect the CO range to be a bit wider than if I opened UTG. If we think we can call then we have to assume he 3bets worse which in a vacuum wouldnt it make 4betting +ev? How far do we tighten up if we are folding tens? How much better are JJ and QQ?
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                  04-02-2013 , 08:22 PM
                  Nobody need say how bad this one is lol.

                  But when I get there on the river and the fish shoves I did a little fist pump.


                    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811811

                    BTN: $10 (100 bb)
                    SB: $17.19 (171.9 bb)
                    BB: $23.52 (235.2 bb)
                    UTG: $11.73 (117.3 bb)
                    MP: $25.74 (257.4 bb)
                    Hero (CO): $11.19 (111.9 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 5
                    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, BTN calls $0.70, 2 folds, MP calls $0.50

                    Flop: ($2.25) 9 T 6 (3 players)
                    MP checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.90, MP calls $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

                    Turn: ($4.95) 2 (3 players)
                    MP checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $1.70, MP calls $1.70, Hero calls $1.70

                    River: ($10.05) 4 (3 players)
                    MP bets $22.44, Hero calls $7.89 and is all-in, BTN calls $6.70 and is all-in

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $32.53 pot ($1.46 rake)
                    Final Board: 9 T 6 2 4
                    BTN showed J J and lost (-$10 net)
                    MP showed 8 A and won $31.07 ($19.88 net)
                    Hero showed 9 5 and lost (-$11.19 net)



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                    Down 15 buy ins in 2K hands. Accept I cant play 6max and move back to FR?

                    Edit: Accept I cant play poker anymore and quit?
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                    04-03-2013 , 04:10 AM
                    Just don't think about it.

                    Accept that you're currently not in a great position to grind poker and do something else for a while.

                    You might find your poker mindset improves by doing something else entirely.

                    Chess was that something for me. There's no room for illogical thinking in Chess.
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                    04-03-2013 , 04:35 AM
                    K8s hand where it looked to be a chop. Just overbet the river he prob only calls with nuts and you get mostly folds otherwise

                    AJ hand on KJx board. Def cbet, dont know why you check that flop.

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                    04-03-2013 , 07:13 AM
                    Quote:
                    Originally Posted by MartL
                    Is the solution to just try and run better?



                      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811561

                      BTN: $24.35 (243.5 bb)
                      SB: $14.53 (145.3 bb)
                      BB: $14.84 (148.4 bb)
                      UTG: $13.96 (139.6 bb)
                      Hero (MP): $10.12 (101.2 bb)
                      CO: $14.97 (149.7 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is MP with T T
                      UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, CO calls $1.50

                      Flop: ($5.15) 9 6 7 (2 players)
                      Hero bets $1, CO calls $1

                      Turn: ($7.15) J (2 players)
                      Hero bets $1, CO raises to $11.47 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.62

                      River: ($20.39) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $20.39 pot ($0.92 rake)
                      Final Board: 9 6 7 J A
                      Hero showed T T and lost (-$10.12 net)
                      CO showed Q Q and won $19.47 ($9.35 net)



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                      Best way to play this hand? Once he calls the 4bet just give up and accept his range is JJ/QQ/AK and I dont do well against it or try and bet small to induce from AK?

                      Same with the next one.

                      Whats my play?

                        Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16811581

                        BTN: $15.88 (158.8 bb)
                        SB: $10.44 (104.4 bb)
                        Hero (BB): $11.01 (110.1 bb)
                        UTG: $12.23 (122.3 bb)
                        MP: $45.47 (454.7 bb)
                        CO: $15.32 (153.2 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
                        3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN calls $0.90, SB folds

                        Flop: ($2.70) K 4 3 (2 players)
                        Hero checks, BTN checks

                        Turn: ($2.70) 3 (2 players)
                        Hero bets $1, BTN calls $1

                        River: ($4.70) 7 (2 players)
                        Hero bets $2, BTN calls $2

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $8.70 pot ($0.39 rake)
                        Final Board: K 4 3 3 7
                        BTN showed A K and won $8.31 ($4.11 net)
                        Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$4.20 net)



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                        I guess my only saving grace here is that the villain has no hand reading ability and dosnt feel he can stack AK in a steal situation pre, which actually makes me sad for how the games are.

                        It is almost bordering on FR tight how people are playing.

                        I decided to play a short session as I had half an hour to spare the session lasted 11 minutes and 100 hands before tiltbreaker kicked in as I lost 2 buyins. Ive now dropped 13 buyins in just short of 2K hands, admitedley some of that has been tilt but thats still quite a lot.

                        Would you please post stats on villain in hand 1? The only thing that can save you here is if you´re up vs a 67/55/11 type. Looks like massive spew.
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                        04-03-2013 , 07:27 AM
                        Few hands above. AJ is a cbet 100%. We value OTF + OTT imo, and then get a free showdown. SO many draws, 3rd pairs and worse JX can call us here.

                        T6s seems fine, although i would raise bigger when i was stealing, just for that extra fold equity.

                        95s just c/f flop. C/C is the weakest play we can make here. I guess BTN can be stabbing air here, but after he cold calls and MP calls his stab, we're never good with 2nd pair MW. Save that redline, before we fold OTT.

                        TT is pretty optimistic with a 4bet. I feel like we're just 4betting to make him fold, and then we get owned when he 5bets us. Flat his 3bet, play solid OOP. He can have a decent amount of air in his range, so i'm happy floating most flops, and I doubt villain is going to get that out of line.

                        QQ seems fine, i would probably cbet though, and check/call most turns. We're going to get value from worse 2nd pairs and also floats on a KXX flop.

                        Gl man, just need to keep working at it.
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                        04-03-2013 , 07:46 AM
                        Owned yet again......


                          Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16819421

                          BTN: $6.15 (61.5 bb)
                          SB: $30.05 (300.5 bb)
                          BB: $28.90 (289 bb)
                          UTG+1: $10.84 (108.4 bb)
                          UTG+2: $5.05 (50.5 bb)
                          MP1: $7.04 (70.4 bb)
                          MP2: $9.70 (97 bb)
                          MP3: $10 (100 bb)
                          Hero (CO): $10.46 (104.6 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is CO with A K
                          3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.50, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $1.40, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.90

                          Flop: ($2.95) 7 8 J (2 players)
                          MP2 checks, Hero checks

                          Turn: ($2.95) J (2 players)
                          MP2 bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

                          River: ($3.55) K (2 players)
                          MP2 bets $4, Hero calls $4

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $11.55 pot ($0.52 rake)
                          Final Board: 7 8 J J K
                          MP2 showed A J and won $11.03 ($5.33 net)
                          Hero mucked A K and lost (-$5.70 net)



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                          So not only does he call a 3bet OOP with Ajo but then proceeds to play the hand near perfectly as though he knows my hand. I keep complaining about luck but he probably makes the same bet if the river is a blank but once again it isnt it is simply one that entices me to put more money in the pot.

                          Hahaha and the funny thing is that when I saw the King on the river I said to myself OOOh maybe my luck is turning around. So session of an hour that was going really well is ruined by one stupid call, I just wonder when people are going to start making these stupid calls against me.
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                          04-03-2013 , 07:51 AM
                          ^ River is a fold imo.

                          All we beat is air, this is never KQ.
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                          04-03-2013 , 07:56 AM
                          Villain in this one is a really loose shorty


                            Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16819451

                            BTN: $10 (100 bb)
                            SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
                            BB: $4.45 (44.5 bb)
                            UTG+1: $10.66 (106.6 bb)
                            UTG+2: $13.98 (139.8 bb)
                            Hero (MP1): $10.09 (100.9 bb)
                            MP2: $5.58 (55.8 bb)
                            MP3: $10.23 (102.3 bb)
                            CO: $5 (50 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K J
                            2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.90, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.60, CO calls $0.70

                            Flop: ($3.35) K 5 J (2 players)
                            Hero bets $0.10, CO raises to $1.80, Hero raises to $7.55, CO calls $1.60 and is all-in

                            Turn: ($10.15) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                            River: ($10.15) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                            Spoiler:
                            Results: $10.15 pot ($0.46 rake)
                            Final Board: K 5 J 6 5
                            Hero showed K J and won $0.00 (-$5 net)
                            CO showed A A and won $9.69 ($4.69 net)



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                            You know when you see the fish and they play bad and still win? Well I cant even play bad and manage to win once in a while.
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                            04-03-2013 , 08:09 AM
                            Can someone please remind me how to win at this game?


                              Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16819461

                              BTN: $10.10 (101 bb)
                              SB: $44.63 (446.3 bb)
                              BB: $5.32 (53.2 bb)
                              UTG+1: $10.51 (105.1 bb)
                              UTG+2: $12.71 (127.1 bb)
                              Hero (MP1): $10.15 (101.5 bb)
                              MP2: $15.78 (157.8 bb)
                              MP3: $5 (50 bb)
                              CO: $4.50 (45 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9 9
                              UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.20, 3 folds, BB calls $0.10

                              Flop: ($0.85) 7 6 6 (4 players)
                              BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.45, MP3 folds, BB calls $0.45, UTG+2 folds

                              Turn: ($1.75) 8 (2 players)
                              BB checks, Hero checks

                              River: ($1.75) 9 (2 players)
                              BB bets $0.80, Hero raises to $2.90, BB folds

                              Spoiler:
                              Results: $3.35 pot ($0.15 rake)
                              Final Board: 7 6 6 8 9
                              BB mucked and lost (-$1.45 net)
                              Hero mucked 9 9 and won $3.20 ($1.75 net)



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                              Even when I get lucky I cant get paid off. I literally have to cooler someone to get someones stack. I can even remember the last time I coolered someone.

                              ............................

                                Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16819471

                                BTN: $5.20 (104 bb)
                                SB: $2.34 (46.8 bb)
                                BB: $4 (80 bb)
                                Hero (UTG+1): $5 (100 bb)
                                UTG+2: $1.21 (24.2 bb)
                                MP1: $2.67 (53.4 bb)
                                MP2: $4.34 (86.8 bb)
                                MP3: $4.73 (94.6 bb)
                                CO: $5 (100 bb)

                                Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A A
                                Hero raises to $0.15, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.15, 6 folds

                                Flop: ($0.37) 4 T 6 (2 players)
                                Hero bets $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30

                                Turn: ($0.97) T (2 players)
                                Hero checks, MP1 checks

                                River: ($0.97) 7 (2 players)
                                Hero bets $0.44, MP1 raises to $1.10, Hero folds

                                Spoiler:
                                Results: $1.85 pot ($0.08 rake)
                                Final Board: 4 T 6 T 7
                                Hero mucked A A and lost (-$0.89 net)
                                MP1 mucked and won $1.77 ($0.88 net)



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                                ........................Surprised I didnt river the Ace here or at least try and bluff raise the flop..


                                  Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16819481

                                  BTN: $3.17 (63.4 bb)
                                  SB: $2.65 (53 bb)
                                  BB: $0.76 (15.2 bb)
                                  UTG+1: $5.46 (109.2 bb)
                                  Hero (UTG+2): $6.59 (131.8 bb)
                                  MP1: $6.54 (130.8 bb)
                                  MP2: $2.43 (48.6 bb)
                                  MP3: $5 (100 bb)
                                  CO: $5.07 (101.4 bb)

                                  Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K A
                                  UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 5 folds, SB calls $0.13, BB folds

                                  Flop: ($0.35) 5 6 Q (2 players)
                                  SB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

                                  Turn: ($0.85) 2 (2 players)
                                  SB checks, Hero checks

                                  River: ($0.85) 2 (2 players)
                                  SB checks, Hero checks

                                  Spoiler:
                                  Results: $0.85 pot ($0.04 rake)
                                  Final Board: 5 6 Q 2 2
                                  SB showed Q A and won $0.81 ($0.41 net)
                                  Hero mucked K A and lost (-$0.40 net)



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                                  This is going to be the first time since I started playing Poker but Im pretty sure Im going to go broke. I have $50 left in my account and once its gone Im not re-depositing. Back to my aggressive bankroll plan I had before so its go hard or go home.
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                                  04-03-2013 , 08:09 AM
                                  well that really is the definition of a suck out or a bad beat isn't it. You can only suck out on someone if they play good and you play bad, so in hindsight if you don't have a lot of lucky turnarounds you probably aren't play all that horrible.

                                  Of course some of your hands are questionable at best but you get my point.

                                  Also, don't try to win every pot, it's ok to let go. You are not entitled to win every pot you enter
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