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11-15-2010 , 04:52 PM
Seriously, I know to a bunch of English people and urban liberals going back to the city for the guns makes perfect sense, but can some of you people from Georgia back me up on that being ridiculous? Georgia probably has a >1:1 gunseople ratio.
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11-15-2010 , 04:56 PM
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They still had Shane to beat any stray zombies into a pulp and make them think twice about trying to bite anyone.
Yeah. I saw it more as a possible setup for the two groups being separated somehow, but I could be overthinking it.
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11-15-2010 , 05:56 PM
Just caught the first couple eps...

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2) Are we really led to believe that in this day and age, a person doesn't know what a zombie is? Or are these stories taking place in an alternate universe where zombie movies don't exist? Unless you're a hermit, you've seen a zombie movie, so an explanation about them would be unnecessary in a zombie apocalypse. Not a big deal, it just bothers me a bit.
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You would have to accept that zombies didn't exist in the show's universe prior to this event. This is the case with most zombie movies. Shaun of the Dead was an exception but it was a comedy so it was able to milk "the rules" for laughs.
Wait, so you guys are saying that if you woke up tomorrow in the middle of a zombie infestation you wouldn't be like "what the **** is going on here", you'd be like "oh, duh, these are zombies, even though all those crappy movies were based purely on fiction"?

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If by awful writing you mean goofy ridiculous ending i agree too. Otherwise, it was alright.
afaik they ended the show the way it did because they knew it wasn't getting renewed. I'll take a crappy ending over no ending at all before the show gets the axe.

(actually, I wish Lost had been cancelled before it ended, but that's the exception)

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Yeah, and I hate when casting directors give away the plot like that. Rooker is the biggest star on the show, no way they hired him for 6 minutes of screen time.

Standard example is the move Collateral where the mystery of Jada Pinkett's character's involvement evaporates as soon as you're like "Hey that's Jada Pinkett!"
Haha, Smokin' Aces was a terrible movie but killing off Ben Affleck in the first 5 minutes was one of the greatest things a movie has ever done.


Anyway, my nit with the show (and really, all zombie lore) - the settings never fit the story. Why does every car (and many buildings) on the planet look so burned? Who is blowing up all the cars in zombie movies? The zombies obviously aren't capable of doing it. I can understand some places getting the warzone look if a battle happened there, but the military clearly didn't get all that much work done fighting the zombies and yet everywhere you look, overturned cars looking like they got blown up. gmafb.
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11-15-2010 , 05:57 PM
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Seriously, I know to a bunch of English people and urban liberals going back to the city for the guns makes perfect sense, but can some of you people from Georgia back me up on that being ridiculous? Georgia probably has a >1:1 gunseople ratio.
Maybe they already used ALL OF THE GUNS IN ATLANTA when the city first fell.

So yeah, being excited about one bag of guns is pretty silly.

Frankly- I think the folks in the camp are doing a horrible job of utilizing an empty city that they could scavenge.
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11-15-2010 , 06:02 PM
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Wait, so you guys are saying that if you woke up tomorrow in the middle of a zombie infestation you wouldn't be like "what the **** is going on here", you'd be like "oh, duh, these are zombies, even though all those crappy movies were based purely on fiction"?
That'd probably be my reaction, yeah.
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11-15-2010 , 06:41 PM
I'd also be like upset if they didn't follow canon on headshots being required, being able to use tools, etc.
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11-15-2010 , 06:42 PM
Like seriously if you got attacked by a werewolf IRL but shot it with silver bullets you'd be irate if that didn't magically kill it.
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11-15-2010 , 07:52 PM
i hope they steal more cars, that would be the sensible thing to do.
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11-15-2010 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Seriously, I know to a bunch of English people and urban liberals going back to the city for the guns makes perfect sense, but can some of you people from Georgia back me up on that being ridiculous? Georgia probably has a >1:1 gunseople ratio.
In the actual city of Atlanta, the ratio might not be as high as 1:1, but once you get outside Atlanta and into Joja, look out.

I'm guessing that the survivors felt going back for a known quantity of guns and ammo in a known location was safer than venturing into places they haven't been filled with unknown numbers of zombies to potentially not find weapons.
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11-15-2010 , 07:56 PM
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i hope they steal more cars, that would be the sensible thing to do.
I was thinking the same thing. If they can find the time to safely grab a few vehicles, that would be clutch.
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11-15-2010 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Wait, so you guys are saying that if you woke up tomorrow in the middle of a zombie infestation you wouldn't be like "what the **** is going on here", you'd be like "oh, duh, these are zombies, even though all those crappy movies were based purely on fiction"?
I'd be pretty pumped bc I read the Zombie Survival Guide so I'd be like, "Get a machete, get upstairs and bust up the stairs." I mean, it'd be kind of awesome.
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11-15-2010 , 09:12 PM
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That'd probably be my reaction, yeah.
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I'd be pretty pumped bc I read the Zombie Survival Guide so I'd be like, "Get a machete, get upstairs and bust up the stairs." I mean, it'd be kind of awesome.
And if it turns out they just look like what Hollywood has told us are zombies for all these years, but are actually the result of an alien infestation or really any other possible cause that would make a person look like that which isn't "dead people waking up and shuffling around slowly but will die when attacked in the head and are only harmful to you if they get blood on you or bite you", you guys will be the first to die as a result of making all these assumptions which turn out to be false.

I mean, if this were to actually happen and you were in the shoes of Officer Friendly waking up in the hospital, the likelihood of it being anything other than what Hollywood has traditionally called "zombies" is insanely higher than it actually being dead people reanimating. Calling him out for not being like "oh, duh, they're zombies!" is silly.
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11-15-2010 , 10:17 PM
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Like seriously if you got attacked by a werewolf IRL but shot it with silver bullets you'd be irate if that didn't magically kill it.
Silver bullet, hollow-tip, silver bullet, hollow-tip, silver bullet.... for a 5 shot.

(Actually, your post just made me laugh cuz yea, I'd be pissed)



Random thought: What if the only way to kill a zombie was for you to bite it?
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11-15-2010 , 10:39 PM
Great episode. I'm not a fan of the zombie genre but the production quality of this show is top notch and I'm enjoying the post apocalyptic world of survival, figuring out the things you took for granted anew, adapting, balancing yourself between the moral and ethical dilemmas you encounter when only few have survived and this and that is up for grabs.

(didn't read the new replies yet but) the rescue group shouldn't be worried the redneck having been attacked fatally by the zombies, at least on the spot, as the hand hadn't been consumed. That said, he's of course losing blood immensely etc. and might've died on his own. Weren't the guns like a block from the store/redneck building max? Anyway, I'd arm up first if I was going to a place (that building) swarming with deadly enemy.
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11-15-2010 , 11:14 PM
^Rewatched the end with more attention. Clearly the "geeks" didn't even make it to the roof. But the redneck had to get off the roof some other way as the z's weren't there when the rescuers came. nvm.

Re: the black athletic zombie being racism by the writers... aaaahahahaha. Give me a fn breakkkk. Was good level (hopefully).
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11-15-2010 , 11:14 PM
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Weren't the guns like a block from the store/redneck building max? Anyway, I'd arm up first if I was going to a place (that building) swarming with deadly enemy.
Didn't they have like 4 bullets?
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11-16-2010 , 02:42 AM
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And if it turns out they just look like what Hollywood has told us are zombies for all these years, but are actually the result of an alien infestation or really any other possible cause that would make a person look like that which isn't "dead people waking up and shuffling around slowly but will die when attacked in the head and are only harmful to you if they get blood on you or bite you", you guys will be the first to die as a result of making all these assumptions which turn out to be false.

I mean, if this were to actually happen and you were in the shoes of Officer Friendly waking up in the hospital, the likelihood of it being anything other than what Hollywood has traditionally called "zombies" is insanely higher than it actually being dead people reanimating. Calling him out for not being like "oh, duh, they're zombies!" is silly.
I mean, yeah, obv it's an unspoken rule of all zombie movies that zombies movies don't exist in the universe of the movie. I agree that it's taking nitting to a whole new (and extremely ******ed) place to call this show out on that. I guess that goes for pretty much any similar genre movie. Except like Scream or something. But that was the point of that movie I guess.

But if you're saying that in our real life world, if we woke up and there was a zombie infestation, that it wouldn't be like the movies.... well then it wouldn't be a zombie infestation it would be something else. Zombie infestations are by definition what are depicted in zombie movies. And that **** I'm ready for. Remember: machetes don't run out of bullets.
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11-16-2010 , 02:49 AM
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Great episode. I'm not a fan of the zombie genre but the production quality of this show is top notch and I'm enjoying the post apocalyptic world of survival, figuring out the things you took for granted anew, adapting, balancing yourself between the moral and ethical dilemmas you encounter when only few have survived and this and that is up for grabs.
any good zombie movie is really about surviving in a post-apocalyptic world where the real bad guys are the humans, not trying to outrun hordes of undead.

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Didn't they have like 4 bullets?
One of the cooler parts of that episode. Reminded me of the end of The Mist.

Also: I just watched 127 Hours. For those nitting up the cut off hand, apparently it's entirely possible to cut off your own limb as long as you have a tourniquet. Getting through the bone with the hacksaw would be rough though.
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11-16-2010 , 03:34 AM
Does zombie blood anywhere on you = infection? If so, snap ban all baseball bats! Those guys were beating the sht out of that forest zombie and probably got some zombie juice on them.

fjfjfjfj 4 bullets.. that's so sick.
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11-16-2010 , 03:49 AM
Someone needs to tell Asain American and African American to grab a stick or a rock or something next time they go to the big city. I mean the cavemen managed to figure out that it was better to fight with a crude weapon than without a crude weapon, the cavemen.
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11-16-2010 , 05:29 AM
wow first episode up on hulu so just watched.

how the fk can u complain about this? the military lost? so what? there wouldnt be a show if they just destroyed them all.

waking up in a hospital alone? cool. its like starting out naked in duke nukem and you pick up **** and increase ur inventory as you go along.

enjoy the show or go back to watching ur gay pornos.
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11-16-2010 , 06:36 AM
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how the fk can u complain about this? the military lost? so what? there wouldnt be a show if they just destroyed them all.
the complaining about the 'complaining' is getting pretty ******ed. People like good lore, they want something at least semi-believable. AFAIK, the reason for the zombie outbreak (and the specifics) wasn't explained in the comic -- we may never find out. I personally don't really care, but some people do.
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waking up in a hospital alone? cool. its like starting out naked in duke nukem and you pick up **** and increase ur inventory as you go along.
that's just what is like, can't wait for the shrink ray.
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enjoy the show or go back to watching ur gay pornos.
people can enjoy the show but still discuss the quality of the writing and if they think characters actions are stupid/inconsistent/whatever. I like the show overall, but like the poster above you pointed out, it seems dumb they didn't have a couple more melee weapons. The black guy had the bolt cutters which is better then nothing and they want to travel light I imagine, but the asian dude and cop probably should have had something other then 4 shots or whatever.

It isn't a big deal, but it doesn't seem like a very rational way for the characters to act and I think it is reasonable to point it out. Speaking of gay, I'm sure there are other threads on other forums if all you are looking for is a Walking Dead circle jerk.
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11-16-2010 , 08:45 AM
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Anyway, my nit with the show (and really, all zombie lore) - the settings never fit the story. Why does every car (and many buildings) on the planet look so burned? Who is blowing up all the cars in zombie movies? The zombies obviously aren't capable of doing it. I can understand some places getting the warzone look if a battle happened there, but the military clearly didn't get all that much work done fighting the zombies and yet everywhere you look, overturned cars looking like they got blown up. gmafb.
Disagree, in the panic a lot of fires would start due to the unfolding chaos, then there would be no one to put them out, fires would get epic and large.
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11-16-2010 , 09:16 AM
That and general rioting. Didnt LA win some sports thing recently and burn out a ******** of cars? Pretty much the same would happen in a zombie apocalypse.
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11-16-2010 , 10:31 AM
Since I am a big fan of Zombies and EOTWAWKI in general I am willing to let some of the minor things slide. But in defense of the show, quite a bit of this is done on purpose for plot or artistic purposes.

Right lane open on the highway - Obviously both lanes would be messed up in a real disaster. But then you wouldn't get that same shot of him riding the horse into Atlanta, which to everyone watching is a stupid idea, and then you wonder if he is stupid enough not to know this or if he just doesn't care because he is trying to get to his family or die.

Shane - They leave it ambiguous as to why he told her Rick was dead. That is part of watching the show develop, right now you can't be sure who is being wronged. My guess is he thought Rick was going to die and telling the wife he was dead made sure he could get Ricks family out of town.

Rifle coverage from the roof - It is probably safe to assume that the only person with any real shooting skills was chained to the pipe. I know its easy in video games to make head shots but in real life I would rather take my chances with the zombies and not add some novice firing shots in my direction.

enough tl;dr for now but I hope the show gets its chance to develop.
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