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11-10-2010 , 11:25 PM
The heavily armed crew who could have waited it out until the right time. So quite how one was sat in the tank fully zedded up is a good follow up question if we accept that somehow they ended up alone and out of fuel.
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11-11-2010 , 12:03 AM
Episode 2 grunch:

1) Rooker is going die by stink palm.

2) I tend to suspend disbelief, but I have one nitty observation that kept bothering me. They are in a department store. Wouldn't they want to change into some fresh, clean clothes? They all looked dirty and sweaty.
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11-11-2010 , 06:52 AM
Regarding redneck/racist guy:

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Main reason I thought racist/redneck guy may have been only a one episode appearance was because Rubicon used a pretty well known actor only in the pilot (guy who shoots himself in the opening scene)
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11-11-2010 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by z32fanatic
Regarding redneck/racist guy:

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Main reason I thought racist/redneck guy may have been only a one episode appearance was because Rubicon used a pretty well known actor only in the pilot (guy who shoots himself in the opening scene)
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As mentioned earlier in the thread, IMDB lists him as in 5 episodes.
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11-11-2010 , 10:19 AM
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... Also, (I'm not sure about the show but), in the comic, you were allowed to be bitten/exposed to the undead, so the zombie "disease" itself wasn't lethal (as long as you didn't get infected by some other disease), so everyone is a passive carrier of the zombie. Given this fact, people would have their guard more or less lowered when people ended up surviving or taking a long time to die etc.
So bitten people became zombies when they died for some other reason year later? Or only from zombie fever?
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11-11-2010 , 01:11 PM
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Lol at asking if you can radio a tank
Seems reasonable to ask whether you can raise a tank raido with a walkie talkie.
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11-11-2010 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by [Phill]
The heavily armed crew who could have waited it out until the right time. So quite how one was sat in the tank fully zedded up is a good follow up question if we accept that somehow they ended up alone and out of fuel.
Only one guy though, maybe he got bit and the rest of the crew shot him and then fled.
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11-11-2010 , 01:18 PM
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So bitten people became zombies when they died for some other reason year later? Or only from zombie fever?
I believe so. In the comic:
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An unbitten character ends up dying, and they bury him. Then later on another character returns to the grave and finds that he's a zombie.
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11-11-2010 , 01:22 PM
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That's true - but it does bring up a follow-up question: why are there so few people left?

(not that I care or think it in any way diminishes the show)
I think this is basically the fundamental problem with any zombie story ever. As I mentioned earlier, it's just hard to really come up with a scenario that makes sense where you end up with a dickload of rather individually non threatening zombies.

Zombies are nice for horror because you can have you protagonist be brutal as all hell and not be a mass murderer, and you can set up a scenario where a small group of people plausibly hold off a horde, and that's nice, but there's always going to be some kinda fundamental logical gaps.

Like KneeCo says, this doesn't really diminish the show- but the more "straight" you try and play a zombie movie (and this is going pretty straight) the more you invite these types of questions.
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11-11-2010 , 02:29 PM
eh, in the I Am Legend scenario, where the the zombies gain super speed and strength, and can infect animals as well, you can see how they could overrun normals and multiply very fast. there is mass confusion, people don't know what's going on, it takes a while for organized resistance to mobilize, etc

even a modern army base isn't really built to defend a zombie attack, something like a medieval castle with giant walls you can't climb is better suited
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11-11-2010 , 03:30 PM
Considering the panic/imapact of the first zombie alpha strike, whole cities infected, power off line, random unexpected ****, etc etc, I think the zombie problem will go a bit further than heh call 911 and get the army.

Also if we consider the issue of a global phenomenon, some if not most countries are going to have alot more problems with a military solution. The immigration issue in Texas would take on a whole new dimension.
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11-11-2010 , 03:48 PM
also there could be all kinds of people against their killing / people just trying to find a cure, etc. it would be hard for people to instantly realize how correct it is to just kill all these "people" you know
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11-11-2010 , 03:50 PM
Super zombies sure. Walking Dead zombies should be no problem for any military base. You can manage a lot of Walking Dead zombies with automatic weapons.
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11-11-2010 , 04:35 PM
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Seems reasonable to ask whether you can raise a tank raido with a walkie talkie.
Obviously you can't, and also M1A1s don't have hatches on the bottom. But that's really overdoing the nittery.

There's a big difference between just raw nittery(tanks have like superadvanced encrypted radios, you can't start a modern car with a screwdriver, etc.) and legitimate stuff about the plot(why did they do so much standing around by the store?).
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11-11-2010 , 04:35 PM
The bit where the cop took the non-existent safety off with his thumb was still ******ed though!
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11-11-2010 , 06:41 PM
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There's a big difference between just raw nittery(tanks have like superadvanced encrypted radios, you can't start a modern car with a screwdriver, etc.) and legitimate stuff about the plot(why did they do so much standing around by the store?).

No doubt. It's hard to complain about inaccuracies in the depiction of modern armor communications systems when they're sending the gals into the woods for ****ing mushrooms.
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11-11-2010 , 07:26 PM
walking dead zombies would work if you have some sort of pandemic that killed 99% of people that then reanimated. I think this tact was taken in some book I read, don't remember off-hand.

Hunting for mushrooms is hilarious. I really want all the survivors to die of liver failure, would make for a sweet episode.
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11-11-2010 , 07:33 PM
Whats the mushroom hate for? Doing it in singles or the fact they are actually doing it?
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11-11-2010 , 07:40 PM
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Whats the mushroom hate for? Doing it in singles or the fact they are actually doing it?
I don't have much problem with singles, because I would imagine that you would be able to hear zombies coming from a mile away in the woods.

Unless their food supply was beyond critical, or they have a resident mycologist, I don't know why they would risk eating wild mushrooms.
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11-11-2010 , 07:49 PM
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Whats the mushroom hate for? Doing it in singles or the fact they are actually doing it?

The thought of sending unarmed young women into the woods alone to hunt for mushrooms, of all things, during any type of flesh eating monster apocalypse seems a little absurd. Might as well send the children out for parsley.
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11-11-2010 , 08:49 PM
Whats the ratio of safe to hazardous mushrooms? Just curious.
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11-11-2010 , 09:01 PM
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Whats the ratio of safe to hazardous mushrooms? Just curious.
I don't know specific ratios, but of some of the deadly species, a very small amount can kill, like a cap. So, if you have a bunch of people collecting and what they bring back happens to include some bad ones, they toss everything into the stew, that could be it for the group.

Even with modern medical care today, people end up dieing from eating poisonous mushrooms. In post-apocalyptic setting, you would be really ****ed. About the only thing you could do would be to munch on some milk thistle, not really sure how effective that is though.

edit: since I know you all read this thread for information about mushroom poisoning and treatments

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_thistle
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The efficacy of thirty different treatments was analyzed in a retrospective study of 205 cases of Amanita phalloides (death cap) mushroom poisoning.[18] Both penicillin and hyperbaric oxygen independently contributed to a higher rate of survival. When silybin [silibinin] was added to the penicillin treatment, survival was increased even more. In another 18 cases of death cap poisoning, a correlation was found between the time elapsed before initiation of silybin therapy, and the severity of the poisoning.[19] The data indicates that severe liver damage in Amanita phalloides poisoning can be prevented effectively when administration of silybin begins within 48 hours of mushroom intake. In a recent 2007 event, a family of six was treated with milk thistle and a combination of other treatments to save them from ingested poisonous mushrooms. While five of the six made a full recovery, the grandmother showed liver recovery but was overcome by kidney failure related to the poisonous mushrooms
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11-11-2010 , 09:06 PM
1, they specifically said to wait for someone when choosing which were and werent safe to eat, so they arent just hoping to get the right ones.
2, i strongly disagree with not gathering food when possible in an apocalypse scenario, when food runs out and you cant gather any thats when you wish you had gathered some mushrooms to make the stores last longer.
3, going alone is ldo ******ed. Everything should be done in armed pairs.
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11-11-2010 , 09:09 PM
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1, they specifically said to wait for someone when choosing which were and werent safe to eat, so they arent just hoping to get the right ones.
I'm sure it was a mycologist
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2, i strongly disagree with not gathering food when possible in an apocalypse scenario, when food runs out and you cant gather any thats when you wish
please, its not like mushrooms are some calorie rich food.

http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-mushrooms-i11260 -- 1 cup 15 cal
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11-11-2010 , 09:19 PM
You dont need to be a mycologist to know which mushroom are and arent poisonous. Loads of people eat wild mushrooms and they arent trained experts.
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