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11-09-2012 , 07:45 PM
53-51-104 (par-72, 70.0/117)

2 pars, 6 bogies, 5 doubles, 4 triples, 1 quad
7/14 fairways, 1 GIR, 6 GIR+1, 35 putts (including 4 3-putts), 5 penalty strokes

Played Pontchartrain Park, which I had only played once before. It was in very good shape, greens were pretty fast. Played decently--got off to a really good bogey-par-bogey start, but then made a quad and it was a mediocre day after that. Easily could've been under 100 had I played just a little bit better. I didn't drive the ball that well, but the fairways are pretty generous. Fairway woods & irons were pretty good.

Also, it was perfect weather. 70° and sunny.
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11-10-2012 , 07:37 AM
Made my 1st ever ACE on the 15th hole at Industry Hill Eisenhower course yesterday!

I think my holes 11-16 score may be much more rare though over a 6 hole stretch as I had a 1-2-3-4-5-6. How many times do you think this has ever happened?

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11-10-2012 , 08:35 AM
Not very often, that's for sure ... congratulations Matt, that's pretty incredible!
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11-10-2012 , 03:05 PM
37-40-77. 2 birdies, 1 double bogeys. Two failed up and downs and a 3 putt on the front, then sprayed one OB off the tee on #10 resulting in the double. Putter was not good until the last two holes .

One more day left, I hope.
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11-10-2012 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt Savage
Made my 1st ever ACE on the 15th hole at Industry Hill Eisenhower course yesterday!

I think my holes 11-16 score may be much more rare though over a 6 hole stretch as I had a 1-2-3-4-5-6. How many times do you think this has ever happened?

good stuff matt..... i wonder if the 1 thru 6 has ever been done. i guess it would as there have been so many rounds played.
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11-10-2012 , 05:07 PM
congrats matt!

weather will hopefully be nice enough to play tomorrow and Monday, excited
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11-10-2012 , 06:57 PM
41-41-82

Super windy day, pretty happy with how I played.
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11-10-2012 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Booker Wolfbox
Sorry if recapping bothers anyone...

#1 (Par 4, 360 yards) - flare drive off into the right woods. Pitch out mostly sideways to 110, 9i to 10 feet. Testy up-then-downhill putt with a foot and a half of left to right break, I hit it way too hard, rolls 5 feet past, miss, tap in for double. Great start. Greens were punched weeks ago but the grass really isn't growing so the holes are still a factor - moreso on the back nine which was done a week or so later.

#2 (3, 130) - 7i to 15' pin high right of the cup. Putt has about a foot of right to left break, I get the speed right this time but don't play enough bend. Tap in for par.

#3 (5, 520) - Solid drive to the right side of the fairway. 6i layup in center. 7i from 130 to 8 feet. Pretty simple uphill putt with about a ball of left to right break, hit it too hard right through the break. Should make this ~ 50% of the time. Tap in for par.

#4 (4, 350) - Back into the wind. Drive is a little high and ends up in the right rough. Stellar 5h from 150 to 8' pin high right. Putt is slightly downhill with about six inches of break, I don't hit it quite hard enough or play enough break. That's one I make about 25-33% of the time. Tap in for par.

#5 (3, 145) - 6i comes up about 5 yards short. Decent pitch checks up five feet short, make the putt for par.

#6 (4, 390) - Flare driver right into the trees, hits solid wood and ricochets back into the fairway. Very nice 4w from 200 stops on the front fringe, about 20' from the hole. Uphill, fairly straight, puttable. Make it, birdie.

#7 (4, 375) - Drive ends up six inches past the 150 pole. 5h doesn't get up in the air and runs through the green about three inches into the rough. Go back and forth between putter and chip, finally select putter for very downhill 18' putt with about six inches of right to left break. Make it, birdie.

#8 (3, 130) - Cautious 7i comes up just short - get a bunch of grief about I planned it that way so I can make three in a row from off the green. Putt from the fringe is about 25' and a sightly uphill double breaker that doesn't move much either way. Ball rolls right at the pin but I hit it too hard and it doesn't quite take enough break on the second leg. Ends up leaving me a 4' downhiller, make it for par.

#9 (5, 475) - Solid drive, could have used another few yards of draw but is in a good spot. Decide to lay up with a little punch to 150 to avoid the trouble. 6i to 7' pin high right. Same putt I had yesterday, sightly uphill with about six inches of right to left break. Miss about two inches low, tap in. That's a putt to make 25-33% of the time (or more if the greens rolled true).

One under for the front after opening with a double bogey and I missed a couple very makeable birdie putts.

#10 (4, 380) - Stripe drive to center of fairway, 8i from 130 to 5 feet, make a pretty straight putt for birdie. ZOMG 2 under.

#11 (5, 485) - Drive is a little weak and right but ends up in the fairway. 6i layup for position. 7i from 140 ends up 8' past the hole, leaving a very downhill putt with an inch or two of right to left break. I can't hit it very hard and the holes from the when the punched the greens make the ball wander, just miss left. Tap in for par. Should make that one at least 20% of the time, not that difficult.

#12 (4, 375) - Drive is perfect, right side of the fairway on a difficult driving hole. 7i from 135 to 8' pin high left. Putt is pretty flat with just a couple inches of left to right break, poor stroke misses right. Tap in for par.

#13 (3, 130) - Knockdown 7i right at the pin, stops 10' short. Uphill putt with 3-4 inches of right to left break, hits an areation hole and just misses left. Tap in for par.

#14 (5, 475) - Good drive just in the right rough. Don't get all of a 1h, would be stretch to get it there anyway. Ends up 40 yards short. Knockdown pitching wedge is too hard, gets 18' past the pin. Uphill, then downhill putt with a foot of right to left break, hit a terrrrible putt that comes up six feet short. Miss right edge, tap in for bogey on the easiest hole on the entire course. FML.

#15 (5, 480) - Good drive just right. 7i layup for position. 7i from 140 hit poorly, comes up on the fringe on the right front. Putter from the fringe, 50' too hard, runs 6' past. Leaves downhiller with a couple inches of break, doesn't break. Tap in for another bogey.

#16 (3, 175) - Good 3h to 12', uphill putt with six inches of right to left break not close, make 2' putt for par.

#17 (4, 385) - Solid drive is just a little right, then takes a terrible kick further right. No shot to the green, blocked by trees. Pitch out sideways too hard. Knockdown from left rough 90 out not hard enough, comes up 5 yards short. Good pitch to 4 feet, putt hits an areation hole and hops far enough left to miss. Tap in for double, FML again.

#18 (4, 400) - Perfect drive in center of fairway. Stripe 4w from 200 into the wind to 6'. Downhill putt with six to eight inches of break, not hard enough for the line chosen, ends up a couple inches right, tap in for par.

Not a long or tough course setup. Pins were in pretty benign spots. It's super rare for me to make 4 birdies in a round and yet ... a little unsatisfying. Given the ball striking I should have converted one or two more. Two bad 3 putts.
Why are you laying up to 150 yards on a par 5 so you can have a 6 iron into the green?

I think you need some course management because this is a horrid game plan imo
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11-10-2012 , 10:05 PM
And you also were not 1 under on your front 9, which means you were not 2 under after 10. Strange how you can shot for shot recap your round and it comes out even, yet you claim you were 1 under.

Just sayin'
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11-10-2012 , 10:19 PM
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#9 (5, 475) - Solid drive, could have used another few yards of draw but is in a good spot. Decide to lay up with a little punch to 150 to avoid the trouble. 6i to 7' pin high right. Same putt I had yesterday, sightly uphill with about six inches of right to left break. Miss about two inches low, tap in. That's a putt to make 25-33% of the time (or more if the greens rolled true).
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Why are you laying up to 150 yards on a par 5 so you can have a 6 iron into the green?

I think you need some course management because this is a horrid game plan imo
Did you miss the key words, "to avoid the trouble"?

Here's the shot in question:



I'm at the "X". I've just hit a good drive 240 into the wind. I'm the shortest hitter on the internet, or close to it. I have ~ 235 remaining to the green. My drive is also not perfect because it's on the right side of the fairway. I'm not sure the picture really does it justice, but in order to hit anything down toward the green a fade is required. A straight ball or a draw is dead.

Here are my options:

(1) Driver off the deck. If this were last year and I wasn't having a good day, this would be the call. I haven't been hitting nearly as many this year so I'm not practiced up on it. Chance of success - probably 10% to hit the green or mi**** it in a place that's not the hazard, O.B., in the trees or in the sand.

(2) 4 wood. Into the wind, I don't think I can get more than 205-210 out of my 4w. I would have to hit it very well to get it past the end of the hazard and there is a decent chance that a good shot ends up in one of the bunkers. I would have to aim out over the hazard and try and cut it -- I've spent 20 years hitting big hooks with woods and even after a full season of not hooking I'm still not confident in my ability to cut a 4w.

(3) 3 hybrid. Better chance of cutting it, but probably can't get it past the end of the hazard and the fairway at that point is about 10 yards wide. If successful, this leaves me a 50-65 yard wedge shot, which is something I hate.

(4) 4h / 5h / 6i / 7i (maybe). I could try and cut one into the area where there is a gap on the right so that if I miss right I might still have a shot.

I don't like choosing any of these options because they require me to hit the ball into a fairly tight area. If I miss left or hit it straight I'm flirting with the hazard. If I miss right I'm in the trees. The fairway isn't that wide.

Of these choices I would be more likely to select the irons, because I was having a very good ball striking day with irons. A flush 6i gets me to 85 yards - a full PW, up into a decent wind. Not my favorite shot, pretty good risk of ballooning it and ending up in a bunker.

(5) I could hit a knockdown or a very short iron to try and squeeze it inside 150, but same issue - from 140 in the fairway gets tight. If I hit it off line or too good I'm going to drop at least one shot.

(6) What I did - a punch or a wedge to 150.

So, presented with those options, I'm pretty happy with this choice. It's a relatively easy shot, there is room for about 10% error -- if I'd hit it 95 yards I would have been fine, same for 75 yards. It's also pretty unlikely that I'd miss far enough left or right to be in any kind of difficulty.

Also, believe it or not, but for my game this also sets up the best third shot for me. I was actually shaded more over the "5" in the "150", which meant that my third shot didn't have to go over the hazard at all. I could take a full swing with a club I have confidence in -- I would much rather hit a 6, 7 or 8 iron than any kind of wedge. (I also play Ping Eye2s, which have weak lofts. Hitting a 6i is probably the same loft as a Rocketballz 8i).

I would much rather have a full, wide open 6i than a lot of the other possibilities - hitting out of the hazard, the trees, hitting any kind of wedge especially a half wedge, or hitting out of the sand.

So: What's wrong with my course management? (Other than that I should have made the seven footer for birdie ... )

FWIW, I had a better drive today, got 10-15 more yards because there wasn't any wind and it drew a bit more. Went for it with a 4 wood from 215, still had to cut it a bit, didn't. Got a couple yards of draw instead, rattled around in the trees past the hazard and I got a lucky break - instead of going OB, it ended up OK, I only had to hit a 20 yard pitch off pine straw over the left bunker to a tucked pin ...
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11-10-2012 , 10:20 PM
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And you also were not 1 under on your front 9, which means you were not 2 under after 10. Strange how you can shot for shot recap your round and it comes out even, yet you claim you were 1 under.

Just sayin'
Course is a par 35-37-72. Shot 34 on the front, then birdied 10.

I see that I did screw up something on the front though, so you're right... Heh, I messed up #4. I knew I made 3 birdies on the front, I made that one. I was remembering Saturday's putt. My bad.

I'm pretty flattered that you're investing this much time in critiquing my t-lifetime best round though.
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11-11-2012 , 07:13 AM
Congrats Matt.

Shot 79 for 35 stableford points yesterday after a long night of drinking. Pretty happy with my score considering the headache
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11-11-2012 , 12:02 PM
For a guy that is capable of shooting a 74, kicking the ball 75 yards down the fairway to lay up on a par 5 from the middle of the fariway is NEVER the "right" play. Leaving yourself a 6 iron instead of a wedge is also never the "right" play for a guy who can shoot a 74.

You obv have all the shots in your arsenal since you've mentioned your cut, draw, knockdown, punch shots, so how is hitting an 8 iron to 100 and having a wedge in not a better play...especially when you are having a good ball striking day? Please don't lie to me and tell you you'd rather have a 6 iron into a green than an 80 yard 3/4 wedge because it is a full shot. People that say **** like that don't have a clue. They've heard Johnny Miller say it on t.v, so they think it applies to their game too. I've never seen you play, but i would bet my life if you hit 25 shots with a 6 iron, and 25 with a 3/4 PW, you would hit the green more (way more) with the wedge. NOBODY would hit it more frequently with a freakin 6 iron.

Your logic is flawed, and the fact that you typed up a recap of your best round ever and you forgot you made a birdie on 4 tells me all i need to know. If you forgot what you did on a hole when you shot your best round ever, what should we think of a recap of your round when you play like ****? Should we take +/- 3 strokes of what you say u shot?
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11-11-2012 , 01:36 PM
holy ****, dude, did he kill your first born or something? let it go
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11-11-2012 , 01:38 PM
27 Stablford points

Really not happy. No consistency and a lot of really awful shotts.

On the first I thined a pitch over the green and three putted. One the second I hit a low slice into the trees. On the forth I did the same. Off the sixth tee I sliced into the bunker. On the ninth I stubbed a chip. On the tenth I pulled a five iron approach into the trees and then sent a pitch over the green. I sliced a seven wood and chipped through the green on the eleventh and pulled two fairway woods into trouble on the twelfth. On the sixteenth I hit a miracle escape to just off the green only butcher a pitch, stub a chip and take three putts. I finished the seventeenth with the wrong ball. I butcher the eighteenth starting with a worm burner drive and never recovering.

3 Pars, 4 Bogeys, 4 Doubles, 7 Worse.
5/12 FIR, 2 GIR, 36 putts from 17 greens.
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11-11-2012 , 05:12 PM
What a day today, I could not have expected to play so well in a million years this late into the season.
Shot 39/39 for a 78 with 4 birdies (most birdies in a round, although I did have 3 birds and an eagle once).. On 15, a 120 yard par 3 I hit my ball way short and plugged into a waste bunker. As my friend was walking by he casually joked "just slam dunk it for your fourth birdie would you?" BAMMMMMMM, I did exactly as he said, nothing but the cup. I could only see half of the flag so I didn't see it go in, but I knew it was in by the sound it made.
God, i wish this wasn't my last round for the next 6 months
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11-11-2012 , 10:30 PM
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For a guy that is capable of shooting a 74, kicking the ball 75 yards down the fairway to lay up on a par 5 from the middle of the fariway is NEVER the "right" play. Leaving yourself a 6 iron instead of a wedge is also never the "right" play for a guy who can shoot a 74.
I suspected that you were trolling me, and now I know for sure.

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You obv have all the shots in your arsenal since you've mentioned your cut, draw, knockdown, punch shots, so how is hitting an 8 iron to 100 and having a wedge in not a better play...especially when you are having a good ball striking day? Please don't lie to me and tell you you'd rather have a 6 iron into a green than an 80 yard 3/4 wedge because it is a full shot. People that say **** like that don't have a clue. They've heard Johnny Miller say it on t.v, so they think it applies to their game too. I've never seen you play, but i would bet my life if you hit 25 shots with a 6 iron, and 25 with a 3/4 PW, you would hit the green more (way more) with the wedge. NOBODY would hit it more frequently with a freakin 6 iron.
You will not acknowledge the risks involved with hitting a shot longer than 95 yards in that spot, so I cannot convince you. That's fine, whatever. I know the strengths and weaknesses of my game and I'm comfortable that it's the right call for me.

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Your logic is flawed, and the fact that you typed up a recap of your best round ever and you forgot you made a birdie on 4 tells me all i need to know. If you forgot what you did on a hole when you shot your best round ever, what should we think of a recap of your round when you play like ****? Should we take +/- 3 strokes of what you say u shot?
LOL, okay. I'm sure neither you nor anybody else has ever made a typographical mistake on the internet, especially six hours and several beers later. Besides, why would I recap a **** round?

I'm done with this conversation, whomever you may be. Thank you for your strongly held opinions.
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11-11-2012 , 10:42 PM
35-41-76. 1 eagle, 2 birdies, no double bogeys. Lots of bogeys. Super windy with gusts up in the 40-45 mph range made it interesting.

Played the back nine first which set things up for a pretty cool finish: #8, par 3, playing 130, 8i lands two feet short of the pin, dribbles past the edge of the cup, finishes two feet past, birdie.

#9, short par 5 (partially screencapped above), playing about 465 - straight downwind. Hit a solid drive right in the center, rolled all the way to 185 out. Hit a 3h right at the pin ... it came up short:



I can make those. Otherwise, my short game pretty much sucked today.
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11-12-2012 , 03:35 PM
91 on a tough layout but i had some very bright moments, like the 2 putt birdie on 18 and the time i told the guy who hit up on us while we were on the green to shove it up his ass. I'd do a hole by hole breakdown of the round but I am terrified I will make a mistake and be subjected to a 4 paragraph take down.
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11-14-2012 , 02:05 AM
104 at Las Vegas National. Not to proud of it.

It was my first time there. For some reason I wasn't expecting to like this course. But I really liked it. Course was in great condition. Lots of sand around the greens and the sand was very nice.

Another highlight was all the old houses. some really ugly some nice.
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11-14-2012 , 02:44 AM
Oh They also have a deal in the bar, your beer cost is your round score for the first beer.
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11-14-2012 , 11:08 PM
so your beer was $104?
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11-14-2012 , 11:14 PM
89 today. Basically shot the temperature on each 9, so, whatever.
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11-15-2012 , 06:57 PM
87

played well after hitting two balls OB on 1 and making a 9
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11-15-2012 , 09:18 PM
+4 for 4.5 holes. Instead of taking lunch, I got in a few. Not real sharp and didn't have good focus - I suck at leaving work at work.
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