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09-11-2015 , 04:25 PM

#9851

thebigeasy59

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+1 to long irons. My favourite club is 3i

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09-11-2015 , 04:32 PM

#9852

EddyB66

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I pretty much only use my 4I for punch out situations where maybe I need a low stinging draw from out of the woods. Basically if I'm using my 4I its a bad day. I have a 3H that i can hit from 160-200, choking up or down as needed.

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09-11-2015 , 04:33 PM

#9853

BreakYaNeck

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I like my 4 iron. I wont use a 3 iron though. 18* hybrid instead.

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09-11-2015 , 05:09 PM

#9854

MinusEV

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Hybrid/rescues are awesome. It's science people - you're just fooling yourselves if you don't love them.

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09-11-2015 , 05:09 PM

#9855

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Originally Posted by Allen C

To the guys who claim to do better with 4i than 4h:

1. The default length of hybrids is usually longer than irons and longer clubs are harder to hit so that could be your problem. It doesn't have to be this way though. You can get your hybrid fit for an iron length shaft.

2. Maybe you just dont hit your long irons high enough to get a terrible hook or slice. It's still pretty terrible though when you only carry your 4i as far as your 7i and it rolls the rest of the way.

3. A lot of hybrids are built with extra draw bias. For some people that's bad. Using the right hybrid (or an adjustable hybrid) will help.

I hit all my clubs super high and spinning to the point where my 4 iron as high as most people hit anything in there bag. I actively want my shots to release, but I can't really hit any full shot that runs out at all. Even my 3 wood off the deck won't roll out more than 5-10 feet when I hit a green with it.

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Originally Posted by EddyB66

This is the other thing I worry about. I've actually considered getting a 2i for punching out because even trying to knock down a 3i from the back of my stance out of the trees (lol my tee game) is usually tough trajectorywise. Wouldn't a hybrid be worse for keeping shots down?

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09-11-2015 , 05:11 PM

#9856

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Originally Posted by MinusEV

Hybrid/rescues are awesome. It's science people - you're just fooling yourselves if you don't love them.

How do you hit low punches with a hybrid? Like I said above, the only club I have that has a chance on these shots is a 3 iron. Everything else I hit gets up super fast and even my 3/4 knockdowns are higher than a lot of people's full shots from a similar distance.

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09-11-2015 , 05:15 PM

#9857

MinusEV

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

If you need to hit low punches, you must've hit the previous shot with something that was not a hybrid.

Last edited by MinusEV; 09-11-2015 at 05:15 PM. Reason: Or a Ping G30 driver.

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09-11-2015 , 05:28 PM

#9858

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I can actually play a low fade, basically skulling it on purpose with my 3h. I play it just inside of my back foot, and on my downswing I try to basically pick my head up and get up on my tip toes and I can send it about 150 yards a foot off the ground. It's a a nice little shot if you have a chance at the green and need a low running shot.

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09-11-2015 , 05:48 PM

#9859

Allen C

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Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

I hit all my clubs super high and spinning to the point where my 4 iron as high as most people hit anything in there bag. I actively want my shots to release, but I can't really hit any full shot that runs out at all. Even my 3 wood off the deck won't roll out more than 5-10 feet when I hit a green with it.

This is the other thing I worry about. I've actually considered getting a 2i for punching out because even trying to knock down a 3i from the back of my stance out of the trees (lol my tee game) is usually tough trajectorywise. Wouldn't a hybrid be worse for keeping shots down?

Nice. How far do you hit'em?

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09-11-2015 , 06:02 PM

#9860

CalledDownLight

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Originally Posted by Allen C

Nice. How far do you hit'em?

4 iron 185-200 depending on conditions and lie and 3 wood 220-250 depending on conditions and how well I catch it. If I absolutely smash 3 wood off the tee maybe 260, but that's about a 1 in 20 proposition and 10 yards further than most of the solid contact. I don't hit a lot of 3 wood off the tee though because I am no better directionally than I am with the driver so only use it when I need to worry about a hazard or going through the fairway.

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09-11-2015 , 06:20 PM

#9861

Booker Wolfbox

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I'm also on team irons, have never loved hybrids. Probably a function of my crappy swing (plus the irons being at least semi fitted) tho.

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09-11-2015 , 07:25 PM

#9862

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Can somebody tell me how this shot happens:

I was hitting my 3w off the deck the other day which I 90% of the time crush. Lately I've done nothing but top it. Anyway, I swung and somehow the ball went backwards like 4 inches with a ton of spin on it and just sat there. How would that happen?

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09-11-2015 , 07:30 PM

#9863

ntanygd760

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The one bad thing about hybrids that I agree with what people said is they are really tricky to hit low. You can do it but you bring bad misses into the equation. You need to flatten your AOA and hit a groove low. If you are having massive 2 way misses with a hybrid but not your long iron then get a fitted hybrid for your swing. I will easily trade that bad stuff for very little distance loss on off center hits and a nice easy to repeat high trajectory.

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09-11-2015 , 07:33 PM

#9864

ntanygd760

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Originally Posted by EddyB66

lol that is tough to do. Some sort of way too steep swing with standing up early and some sort of alligator arms all mixed together with almost completely missing the ball might do it.

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09-11-2015 , 07:37 PM

#9865

scottc25

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Originally Posted by ntanygd760

Some sort of way too steep swing with standing up early

Pretty much this. When I was learning to hit the woods after playing irons forever I drove one straight into the ground. I literally hat to dig about 2 ball diameters down to get the ball.

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09-11-2015 , 08:10 PM

#9866

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Originally Posted by scottc25

Pretty much this. When I was learning to hit the woods after playing irons forever I drove one straight into the ground. I literally hat to dig about 2 ball diameters down to get the ball.

Hahaha. Play it as it lies.

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09-11-2015 , 09:06 PM

#9867

ntanygd760

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You would get a free drop from it, the shot that caused it obv still counts though.

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09-11-2015 , 10:34 PM

#9868

ntanygd760

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Does anyone know the performance difference between the 2012 vs 2014 B330rx?

Rockbottom has the 2012 on sale for $20 a dozen when you buy 3 dozen

Edit: Never mind, they have the 2014 ones for $20 as well but come in just the sleeves without the outer packaging.

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09-12-2015 , 09:47 AM

#9869

scottc25

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Damn it, now you people have me researching hybrids.

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09-12-2015 , 09:54 AM

#9870

BingoConspiracy

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I personally dont mind hybrids too much but I myself carry a 18 degree driving iron

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09-12-2015 , 12:00 PM

#9871

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To all the people upthread professing their love for 3/4-irons - you hit them like ****, otherwise you'd be a scratch or better. There is no close argument or defense, longest iron in the bag should be a 5.

Added emphasis, hybrids are scary easy to hit. If you have an issue hitting them, it's just another reason why you've got no business hitting a long iron.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I haven't had a 4-iron in the bag for years. Not that I can't hit one, but it's cheating to hit my hybrid.

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09-12-2015 , 12:58 PM

#9872

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Originally Posted by scottc25

Damn it, now you people have me researching hybrids.

As you should be if you don't have any.

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Originally Posted by ntnBO

Pretty much this.

I am a 2 handicap and I can hit a 3 and 4 iron pretty good, but I have 2 hybrids. A 17* and a 20*. I don't carry a 3 iron and the only reason I have a 4 iron in my bag is for long punch shots when I'm in the trees or if its windy and I want to keep it lower.

I can hit my 20* hybrid about as high as I hit my 7 iron but it carries 210-220 yards and out of the rough you barely notice a difference. You're being thick headed if you think you don't need these clubs.

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09-12-2015 , 03:42 PM

#9873

scottc25

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Purchased a Ping G30 3 hybrid. The high launch angle is amazing. Going to have to tame down the draw I get with it (at least I drew it on the simulator). If it stops raining today I will go to the range and hit it and report back.

I am amazed at how easy it was to swing though.