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Originally Posted by theblackkeys
You're making a common logical error here. Just because someone ELSE who sprints can lift more than one guy does not mean he will be faster, no one is arguing that point, well maybe he is but that's not what I got out of it. The point is that making YOURSELF stronger will make you perform better. There's no point in comparing how much two different people lift, because as you said there are a million other factors.
He probably wouldn't argue that in a discussion, but I actually think that he comes off like that in the article. Reason being he never even mentions all the other factors at play, and also fails to explain the gap between the very elite runner and the more "pedestrian" but stronger 11.0sec. runner. What are the differences, if strength can't explain it, what happens when the slower guy reaches his limits of strength/mass ratio (or when this approach shows diminishing returns for that matter) - how does he improve his times. These things apparently do not happen in Ross' overly simplistic world, because then he should have mentioned that there are other factors in play and that it isn't that easy in the end. To the uneducated reader (99% of the people looking for an easy way out wrt. programming) it will seem like that you can become a world class sprinter primarily through weight room work, this is the holy grail after all, and there seemingly aren't any other factors at play in running fast.
Nevertheless, of course you are also right. Making yourself stronger will most of the time result in improved performance (although I don't think max. strength is
the most important factor). My main complaint against Ross' philosophy is that it apparently is an either-or approach. As an example, to him technical work is a waste of time, ignoring a lot of biomechanical research about speed mechanics. A good training program should attempt to make the athlete better at both.
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So are you saying if you're strong enough to have an above average start (in comparison to elite sprinters, heh), that you will end up in a worse position later in the race? Or are strong starters just people who focus too much on one part of the race and that's the reason you're seeing ****ty performances from them later in the race?
I made a mess of that paragraph, because the first thing doesn't have anything to do with the other. Both things you say could absolutely be the case for different athletes.
My point about the technical efficiency of the first 10 meters was anecdotal, but basically it seems like there are ways to improve 10m times through a different mechanical approach (body positioning, stride rate) but this will probably hurt times as soon as you hit the 20m mark, not to mention the 100m mark. It is a bit off topic to the discussion at hand though.
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The only argument I'd make for it in choosing it over the squat is that is a lot simpler to learn, but if you're going to be spending a significant amount of time in the weight room you need to be putting forth the effort to learn the more complicated movement anyways.
What do you think about his comments about not resorting to gimmicky stuff?
There are plenty of "gimmicky" ideas that can provide a very good stimulus at certain points in a training year. The trick is to not just do them for the sake of doing them, but instead to always have a plan for them. Of course one shouldn't overdo them, because as he says, some have proven worthless and others even dangerous (it's sometimes basically like when a weight room guru comes up with a new bosu-ball exercise), but things like sled pulls and hill sprints can be extremely good when put in the right context.