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Old 03-31-2010, 09:54 PM   #2226
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

BOXING THEORY QUESTION

Let's say you have two untrained boxers.

Boxer 1 is 5'9", 250. Extremely strong and thick, but has a gut and weak cardiovascular endurance, and little speed. Say, benches 300 1rm, but can't crack a 10 minute mile, or run a sub 6 second 40.

Boxer 2 is 6'2", 190. Has distinct reach advantage and is in good cardiovascular shape. Can only bench 200 1rm but has plenty of endurance. Runs like a low 5.x 40.

Assume average (read: not great) ability to take a punch for both boxers.

Who wins? Is it close?
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:03 PM   #2227
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

Ok, while we are asking stupid "boxing" questions, I had one the other day...

What is it that makes someone better/worse at taking a punch in the face? You always here people say sh*t like: Blah Blah is good, but he has a glass jaw. What makes your jaw glass/steel?
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:09 PM   #2228
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Ok, while we are asking stupid "boxing" questions, I had one the other day...

What is it that makes someone better/worse at taking a punch in the face? You always here people say sh*t like: Blah Blah is good, but he has a glass jaw. What makes your jaw glass/steel?

Well, when people get knocked the **** out, it's usually because a punch causes their head to move a short distance very quickly, causing their brain to bounce off the inside of their skull.

I'd hazard a guess that having super strong and thick neck muscles would help reduce the amount your head recoils when punched.

Just a guess though, I have no idea.
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:15 PM   #2229
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

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BOXING THEORY QUESTION

Let's say you have two untrained boxers.

Boxer 1 is 5'9", 250. Extremely strong and thick, but has a gut and weak cardiovascular endurance, and little speed. Say, benches 300 1rm, but can't crack a 10 minute mile, or run a sub 6 second 40.

Boxer 2 is 6'2", 190. Has distinct reach advantage and is in good cardiovascular shape. Can only bench 200 1rm but has plenty of endurance. Runs like a low 5.x 40.

Assume average (read: not great) ability to take a punch for both boxers.

Who wins? Is it close?
Boxer 2 should do nothing but dance and win by decision like over 90% of the time.
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:16 PM   #2230
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

I'd give a significant edge to the skinny guy in this case because the 250 guy is gonna be ready to die after a minute or two. I know this because aside from his strength, this was a more out of shape me before I decided to lose weight and I know I would get my ass kicked in this situation even if I could bench 300.
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Old 03-31-2010, 10:20 PM   #2231
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

I got stuck at work tonight and couldn't get to the gym for very long to try and lose some water weight. Did a few laps in the pool and my arms were about to fall off, sat in the hot tub for a few minutes, and then moved to the sauna for about 10-15 minutes. I feel like I'm about to die, so its time for bed. I am so looking forward to weighing in tomorrow morning and then drinking a gallon of water.
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Old 03-31-2010, 11:51 PM   #2232
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this seems like a good a place as any to put this

 
Old 04-01-2010, 12:11 AM   #2233
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Wow. It looks like they're wrestling at a church rec hall or something, too.
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:43 AM   #2234
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:56 AM   #2235
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

Oh, also, my weak/fatty friend can't do a single chinup or even hold a negative. I'm going to have him do 3x5 assisted chins and lowering the assistance workout-to-workout. Solid?
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:11 AM   #2236
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Also... I wont go as far as saying I am seriously considering doing this... but I am thinking about it... Am I being ******ed?

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Old 04-01-2010, 01:14 AM   #2237
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Pulled a muscle in my ass deadlifting today. WTF. I didnt even know you could pull an ass muscle. On a positive note, I guess this means I must be engaging my posterior chain, which is a small victory for a severely anterior dominant person.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:23 AM   #2238
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Oh, also, my weak/fatty friend can't do a single chinup or even hold a negative. I'm going to have him do 3x5 assisted chins and lowering the assistance workout-to-workout. Solid?
i went from 0 pullups to 6 in less than 3 weeks. just tried a pullup every time i walked past the bar in my doorway.
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:25 AM   #2239
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

I was thinking I did something to my Lat yesterday but at this point I'm not so sure.

I'm feeling very noticeable pain when I turn my shoulders to the left and minor pain when I turn to the right. It is just to the right of the spine in line with the top set of abdominal muscles.

Any ideas? (Xposted from log)
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Old 04-01-2010, 05:28 AM   #2240
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Also... I wont go as far as saying I am seriously considering doing this... but I am thinking about it... Am I being ******ed?

Bachelor of Exercise and Sports Sciences.
I dunno. I was tempted to do something similiar but i couldn't think of many uses for it. The couple of dozen PT jobs and odd coaching one in my city didn't seem enough and i thought this course would be oversubscribed. Might be wrong though.
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Old 04-01-2010, 05:34 AM   #2241
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

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Oh, also, my weak/fatty friend can't do a single chinup or even hold a negative. I'm going to have him do 3x5 assisted chins and lowering the assistance workout-to-workout. Solid?
Your alterations to SS are stupid, and in light of this, even dumber than I thought before.
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Old 04-01-2010, 06:04 AM   #2242
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Before and after Biggest Loser pics, posted in my log.
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Next up: Getting (more) fat again w/GOMAD + SS
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Old 04-01-2010, 07:12 AM   #2243
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Old 04-01-2010, 08:31 AM   #2244
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

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Your alterations to SS are stupid, and in light of this, even dumber than I thought before.
he didnt alter it, hes just doing the "Practical Programming Novice Program"
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Old 04-01-2010, 08:50 AM   #2245
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

WTF? It's April imo.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:21 AM   #2246
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

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Your alterations to SS are stupid, and in light of this, even dumber than I thought before.
Why do stupid?

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he didnt alter it, hes just doing the "Practical Programming Novice Program"
Although, fwiw, I am a little concerned by my friend's complete inablility to do even a negative chinup, and I dont really think assisted chins are all that cool... but what are the best options for a weak/fatty? Fat man rows?
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:27 AM   #2247
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See smiley's chinup thread.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:29 AM   #2248
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Re: **8*8*8 March version Two(2) ***88***8

Why is it stupid? It adds in more vertical pulling without horizontal pull, provides no explosive movements, and cuts down the volume of the most important exercises. And then you realize he's not even able to complete a pullup.
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