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Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN/SB): t1610 M = 17.89
BB: t1390 M = 15.44

Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is BTN/SB with A

Hero calls t30, BB raises to t180, Hero raises to t1610 all in, BB calls t1210 all in

Flop: (t2780) J

Turn: (t2780) T

River: (t2780) 9

Final Pot: t2780
Hero shows A

(Ace Jack high)
BB shows A

(a pair of Aces)
BB wins t2780

He was 3-4xing 100% of my limps. I had him down to 300 chips at 30/60 and he comes back by getting Q9o > my AA, and some other bull**** I don't remember. sigh

fold?

or minraise pf?

10-08-2009 , 06:36 PM

#2502

Insane_Steve

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,843

Quote:

Originally Posted by kukulcan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kukulcan

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so simple

so much emotion

10-08-2009 , 06:42 PM

#2503

ac on

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,622

Quote:

Originally Posted by Temp

fold?

or minraise pf?

I see no reason to do either in this spot. Thoughts?

10-08-2009 , 07:06 PM

#2504

micromouse

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 164

Quote:

Originally Posted by aarono2690

I'm at home in International Falls for a few days getting paperwork, etc. done before I return to St. Paul so I'm currently using Mid Co.

When I come back to St. Paul I'm getting the Comcast special of 16mb Internet for $24.99/mo for 6 months. Any issues with Comcast, or overall great company?

Comcast tilts me. They will raise your rate to something outrageous at the end of 6 months and if you try to sign up for a new deal when that deal expires they will tell you you have to of not had comcast for 4 months. Fkc em. i'd splurge if you can and get VIOS, wish they just had it in my area

10-08-2009 , 07:49 PM

#2505

citanul

Super Moderator

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,865

ac,

do some math. (post it here!) assume he raises 3-4x with 100% of his range, and calls with a smaller portion of his range (but not only AA). see if shoving A3dd is good, to start with.

10-08-2009 , 08:00 PM

#2506

spamz

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9,207

Quote:

Originally Posted by citanul

ac,

do some math. (post it here!) assume he raises 3-4x with 100% of his range, and calls with a smaller portion of his range (but not only AA). see if shoving A3dd is good, to start with.

limp-shove looks great to me, super profitable if he raises like 100% of his hand to 3bb's oop, even when his callingrange is perfect...

10-08-2009 , 08:13 PM

#2507

fregat

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 131

97 hands:

88 vs jj > lost
88 vs aa > lost
jj vs aa > lost

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10-08-2009 , 08:14 PM

#2508

ac on

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 3,622

Quote:

Originally Posted by citanul

ac,

do some math. (post it here!) assume he raises 3-4x with 100% of his range, and calls with a smaller portion of his range (but not only AA). see if shoving A3dd is good, to start with.

When we shove before he raises, we fold out everything he wouldn't call a shove with. When we limp shove, he still folds most of that, but he puts in some money before he does. I'm not entirely sure how math is necessary here, though it seems to be an extension of the stuff insane_steve and TNixon wrote, if you do want to see the math behind 3balling.

10-08-2009 , 11:17 PM

#2509

absoludicrous

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,091

Quote:

Originally Posted by aarono2690

They're "ok" at best. They kind of monoplize the cable around MPLS/STPL. They are pretty expensive after the 6 mo new subscriber rate expires.

I pay ~$120 for basic cable (45 channels or so) and internet

I think a better value would be DirecTV + Qwest, but we can't get DirecTV.

10-08-2009 , 11:18 PM

#2510

absoludicrous

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,091

Quote:

Originally Posted by citanul

good news! 1500 hands today and only 6 buyins under all in ev! things are improving!

No wonder you're borrowing lunch money. What stakes are you playing right now?

10-08-2009 , 11:49 PM

#2511

HalfSlant

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,022

lol

lost 2 in a row to this guy:

No Limit Holdem Tournament
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (1,190)
BB (1,810)

Blinds: 10/20

Pre-Flop: (30, 2 players) Hero is SB A

Hero raises to 60, BB calls 40

Flop: 6

(120, 2 players)
BB bets 20, Hero raises to 80, BB raises to 170, Hero calls 90

Turn: K

(460, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 210, BB goes all-in 1,580, Hero goes all-in 750

River: 5

(3,000, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: 3,000
BB shows Full House, Fives full of Sixes
5

Hero shows
A

BB wins 5,380 ( won +3,570 )

Hero lost -1,190

10-09-2009 , 12:02 AM

#2512

citanul

Super Moderator

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 18,865

Abs,
that graph is like 50/50 2/4 and 1/2.
****ing kill me.
Whoever said it is fine even if calling perfect,
ok, fine, I believe you. I guess. But like, even if one play is fine, itca. Still be bad if repeated. (not saying this is the case, just drunkenly being beligerent. I guess my feeling is that sngs often present spots where things are ok til that time when you et caught? Lol haven't played a sng in a while.

10-09-2009 , 12:58 AM

#2513

kwansolo

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,991

WHY is it always against the -46% roi idiots that i lose to?

Full Tilt Poker $100 + $5 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN/SB): t1260 M = 42
MIRAGE2234 (BB): t1740 M = 58

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with A

Hero raises to t40, MIRAGE2234 raises to t100, Hero raises to t400, MIRAGE2234 calls t300

Flop: (t800) A

(2 players)
MIRAGE2234 bets t1340 all in, Hero calls t860 all in

Turn: (t2520) T

(2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t2520) 8

(2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t2520
Hero shows A

(a pair of Aces)
MIRAGE2234 shows Q

(a straight, Ace high)
MIRAGE2234 wins t2520

10-09-2009 , 02:57 AM

#2514

YouCantEscape

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,207

someone kill me please...

I just played 100 hands against some giant russian drooler and a donk from switzerland and managed it to lose 7 buyins...

there hasn't been one single moment in my HU career where i haven't been drastically below EV besides hand 0. plus im easily missing 50k EV in donkaments...

10-09-2009 , 06:39 AM

#2515

sure

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 113

Man, this game can be brutal sometimes. Sometimes - just sometimes - I can really feel the pain and bad logic of the rigtards trolling the zoo with their nonsense.

10-09-2009 , 06:43 AM

#2516

kukulcan

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 567

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouCantEscape

what donkament level?
which swiss guy?

10-09-2009 , 10:39 AM

#2517

YouCantEscape

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,207

Quote:

Originally Posted by kukulcan

what donkament level?
which swiss guy?

1) 150$ ABI had epic downswing of 25-30k final table bubbling every ****ing tournament losing huge favorites for CL etc. where 1st gets 25k++

2) i don't out fish

3) i need a 2m2mm style tiltroom because i just caused quite a bit of damage in my appartment (destroying mouse, headset, ps3 controller, one glass) because of epic tilt...

10-09-2009 , 11:12 AM

#2518

kukulcan

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 567

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouCantEscape

ah so the fish was not me..smile..

i also need a tilt room - i just almost broke my hand....talbe was stronger..smile..but still hurts like hell today...

10-09-2009 , 11:15 AM

#2519

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,420

grrr FTP has enraged me. My bankroll is just too large to be playing the 11's so I moved up to the 22's before I played the volume I wanted to at the 11's and in like my 3rd game a little thing pops up asking me if I want information about winning a piece of Ivey so I say, "sure, why not?" and wtf happens? insta-crash FTP and when I get back my opponents have blinded me away. I am e-mailing support demanding my $$ back.

10-09-2009 , 11:15 AM

#2520

YouCantEscape

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,207

Quote:

Originally Posted by kukulcan

ah so the fish was not me..smile..

i also need a tilt room - i just almost broke my hand....talbe was stronger..smile..but still hurts like hell today...

no way that it was you...i doubt the guy was a poster here.

the tilt room in 2m2mm is so epic but i just ordered a punching bag instead...

10-09-2009 , 11:23 AM

#2521

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,420

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouCantEscape

for you to actually be running at your true ROI in MTT's (especially big fields) you have to play so many its almost disgusting

10-09-2009 , 11:30 AM

#2522

YouCantEscape

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,207

i know... mtts are so frustrating... the money distribution is not close to fair... not even longterm... it's almost impossible to achieve a decent samplesize ever...that's y i want to play more cash in the future...

10-09-2009 , 11:38 AM

#2523

11t

Bo Pelini's #1 Fan

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 31,420

the money distribution is only not fair if you suck at FT play

10-09-2009 , 11:51 AM

#2524

YouCantEscape

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,207

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11t

the money distribution is only not fair if you suck at FT play

you misunderstood... i dont talk about the distribution of the prizepool but about that a few rather mediocre guys have huge success due to getting lucky in some key spots while i know some great players who just run so bad lifetime in every major... skill and success are not as proportional in the long run as it is in cash... maybe u know what i mean... if u get sucked out at the FT bubble of the WCOOP 5k event there will be no long run of this situation for you because it wont happen often enough...