Toph is a bit overly fond of the word "rape."

For what it's worth jackets, I have no idea why Boise State should be ranked ahead of your team. They've outscored their opponents by a collective 79, and three of their four opponents are teams with losing records in bad conferences. The other, as we know, is a middling BCS team.

Georgia Tech has outscored their opponents by a collective 129 and their schedule looks comparable in strength to Boise's so far.

However, Boise did run some cool trick plays a few years ago, so they're 17 spots higher than you.

Because its silly to use four or five games of evidence when these teams have players with up to four years of results to look at. If I had to bet on us vs boise on a neutral field I would need at least 7 points to even consider it, and its only that few because of how poorly they played today vs nevada. The best we are is 15ish based on paul johnson alone until we get a defense with a pulse and a qb who can put the ball within 5 yards of wide open receivers.

Trying to not go overboard with games tonight, but top four is alabama lsu oklahoma wisconsin, then a small drop to boise stanford ok st and clemson.

You seriously think they should base the top 25 on prior years?

I agree with your top four, and then Stanford and Clemson I agree are in the next tier. I don't really understand Oklahoma State's ranking so far.

Of course you should. I rank my top 25 as "who's best"/power rankings aka who I think would be favored on a neutral field instead of "who's deserving"/resume rankings like some do. I've seen kellen moore and andrew luck play at an elite level for several years so I don't know why I wouldn't take that into account when determining how good they and their teams are.

Okay. I can't buy into this notion that teams shouldn't have to earn their spot and that brand names should somehow carry some inherent weight.

Andrew Luck and Stanford are also clobbering teams harder than Moore and BSU are. The Cardinal are legit top 5; Boise is fringe top 10 right now. They're good, but if they're going to make a case for top 5 they'd better start beating teams a lot harder since we know that the schedule isn't going to get any tougher.

Its not the brand name that means anything, its having players that we know have performed well and won games in the past carries some weight. I agree that boise is slipping a bit and did not look good today but would expect a game between them and stanford to be really close to a pick em, probably a slight edge to stanford.

Certain marquee players can't be everything. It's not like there was a ton of variance in Elway's quality as an NFL quarterback, but there was sure as **** a lot of variance in the quality of the Bronco teams he played for.

The fact that Moore has been playing for a while is in fact evidence that Boise should be as good as ever, and in fact you'd hope they would be better. They're not as overwhelming so far as they've been in past years and they need to be answerable for that when the polls come out given how much effect the polls especially have on them (as compared to teams from BCS AQ conferences).

It is, especially in the preseason. Since the BCS isn't fully reliant on computer rankings, humans are going to pick teams from previous seasons and teams that are ranked in their selection for the best teams whether that team deserves it or not.

Never said its everything, just something to consider.

I'd attribute the decline in the offense to losing both starting receivers to the nfl draft and having a third suspended without adequate replacements it seems.

i'm a vikings fan. i actually like the eagles.

since when does facts = hatred?

I'm aware that it does get taken into account, but I said "should."

Obviously the fact that it does is all part of my perpetual gripe that preseason rankings exist at all.

it's prob the #1 reason why i can't get super into ncaafb

loved this , LKJ

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His stats say otherwise. The above is not only an opinion, but it is false.


A 1050 yard season with 47 receptions is extremely impressive. Take a look at any other star WR (in fact, look at Rice who had two 1200 yard, 80 reception seasons), and tell me how bad Jackson is compared to Rice et al. Think about the numbers he'd be putting up with Tom Brady. The Eagles have not one, but two running backs (Vick and McCoy) who are both very good at running, and yet he is still is having better seasons than most WRs.

i said he's sucked since last year's cowboys game bc all he does is run fly routes now.

the tom brady sentence is ******ed.

most WRs in the league suck.

Huh?

This league is, without argument, the best football players in the world. How can most of the players at any position suck? Isn't this the league that sets the baseline to judge everyone else by?

LKJ, you'll be happy to know that my sports bigamy is quite annoying this year so far. Falcons and Packers played at the same time last week and do again this week.

(btw Falcons -5.5 @ Sea is good, right? I feel like it should be)

Vintage, you'll be happy to know that your sports bigamy is quite annoying all the time, every year.

Falcons -5.5 is probably good money. I think there's an outside chance Seattle wins (maybe 15% or so based on Atlanta's underwhelming start and ****ty performance in Tampa), but when this edition of the Seahawks loses, they get blown the **** up. So most results that involve a Seahawk loss easily have us losing by a touchdown or more.

And let the record show that I told you that you'd beat Mississippi State.

Though let the record show that I think that Packers -12 and Bucs -10 are safer bets this week. Falcons -5.5 might be the third best line.

Ya I have GB -12.5 too. Few other ones I'm not so sure of though... Saints -7.5 @ Jacksonville makes me cringe but I already took it so w/e....

Realistically, the MSU win shouldn't be a surprise. I'm just far too familiar with the "Georgia gonna Georgia" blowup that happens at least once a year. I'm pretty happy with how UGA played yesterday though, despite Aaron Murray having a pretty awful game (160yds, 2/3).

Auburn beating South Carolina was HUGE for UGA as far as SEC East hopes go. Bama will destroy us if we end up playing them, but it'd be nice to get another division title. Florida getting their ass whipped made me super happy obv.

dkgo, I only saw SC highlights of your game, but it didn't look like tech played super-aids at all. If anything, I took away from it that your first string is extremely talented but that you might not have a ton of depth on defense. Seemed like you guys controlled the game and NCSt really only started putting points on the board when your backups were in the game. Regardless, I'm very popcorn.gif to see you guys play Clemson

edit: Lou Holtz thinks that GT is the best team in the ACC, so you're obviously ****ed at this point.

oh, c'mon dude. obv every professional athlete doesn't "suck" at sports but you have to know what i meant. saying desean jackson is better than "most" WRs really isn't saying much when you consider all the david clowneys, earl bennetts and cecil shorts of the world.


FOR THE RECORD:

Rams +3
Chiefs+3
Jacksonville+7.5
Seattle +5.5

are my plays of the week

edit: rams chiefs and jags all fall into a category of games that hit ~75% every season. play every home dog if they are on a different playing surface than the visiting team. for example, colts +10 vs. steelers last week was my play of the week too (although i think it's only been like 4-2 or something this year). these are literally the only games i'll ever bet on bc it's +EV every single season since i started watching football.

No I honestly didn't. I wasn't trying to draw relative comparisons to high school athletes or something, but it just seemed like you were making a statement that there are like ten good WRs in the league (yes, by NFL standards, I get that).

I'm just really upset that we took a 42-14 lead and turned it into a backdoor push for nc st by giving up two worthless tds in the last 30 seconds. State is terrible and even though winning a road game is always good, tevin can't miss wide open receivers over half the time against clemson or vt. I'm hoping it was just a bad day and not a sign of things to come since he had played well. Giving up the long td drives after going up 21-0 is also concerning.