Dorian -- off the top of your head, as fast as possible, without going through your own filter, please describe to me your thought process with regards to Ratchet. Either during D2 or during the whole of the game, whichever's easier.

I'm willing to be lynched before bhuber because I think it's the practical thing to do for the town team as I look at future scenarios. Not because I'm "so sure that Banks is mafia."

Because, once Ratchet was almost-lynched, it became very obvious that it would be a horribly useless fakepeek for a fake claim. I thought about looking back at day 1 and seeing if I could use anything else I'd written to justify someone else as a N0 fakepeek, but then MSU claimed and made the whole thing moot.

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Votes	Lynch	Voters
3	TehBankertin	Slendy (21), fontisian (23), dorian78 (23)
2	dorian78	Achromatic (30), TehBankertin (85)
1	bhuber2010	Riki (53)
1	not voting	bhuber2010 (9)

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Useless? How come -- you had no way of knowing Ratchet's affiliation back then...?

Double standards suck... I'm apparently a wolf for questioning another wolf on day 1 about their reads and interacting with everyone.

Your day 1 style is to really vote off wagon on day 1?

Sure. I got near the end of the day, had to consider who to vote for. At that point, I realize that almost none of Ratchet's posts stuck out in my head. I decide to make him my fakepeek as someone who I think is likely to survive a while for not being controversial.

Then the almost-lynch happens while I'm gone. Ratchet's defense is truly horrible, but I don't see anything else so obviously scummy. I know plenty of people from experience who defend themselves horribly under pressure, despite being innocent. So I sit back to watch day 2 unfold. MSU is constantly pushing me for my opinion of Ratchet, who I'm horribly conflicted on, like I said. The D2 play was good. I could see things easily going either way. I'm willing to shoot him for the horrible defense and the information it provides. Then MSU claims.

Seconded. oh hes just a wolf nevermind.

Heck yes. Day 2 is often about lynching someone who did something silly in the top wagons from day 1, and the goal as town is to survive until mid-game when all the roles start pouring tons of information forth.

Okay I think I might actually be switching to dorian here.

Wow.

Like, to start with -- if you were so conflicted on Ratchet, why was you asking about the cue-hit the only meaningful thing you could try to discern from his posts?

Dorian atm.



Slendy join the side of good. The village is about to take this down vote dorian for justice!

I mean like why would everyone not do this? For the record I 100% believe that he votes off wagon as either alignment and recant that portion being a scum read on him. You're still a wolf but not for that. Just tone alone he believes thats the case (note how none of the rest of his posts sound like that)

you said that you agreed with most of his points

if you didn't have a read on him why would you fakepeek him?

lol the wolf picture was my 5k post... haha dorian flipping wolf will make that **** epic. I meant to make it my day 2 case but got distracted.

BHUBER where are you at reading bro. Get in here and vote the wolf who is struggling.

Quoting D2!Slendy cause fun.

Ratchet and dorian basically just patted each other on their backs for the clever cue-hit, and... that's the whole D2.

Doesn't make sense.

Oh well: dorian

Remember, new to this whole setup/strategy. If, heaven forbid, we got to day 3 or 4 and I felt making a fakeclaim was best, my impression was that it's much more useful to have people who are still alive as your scans. I didn't think Ratchet would live that long, and it was definitely possible that he'd flip mafia, in which case I couldn't use it at all.

I feel like, if I were mafia, the simplest thing to have done was just out and said, "Hey, Ratchet's my N0 fakepeek, now I have a free excuse for defending him."

When dorian flips wolf slendy should be moving forward btw.

Why do you need a fake claim as vt? Does that normally happen in the setups you play where everyone has a role?

I feel like you're hiding behind the vale of not knowing the setup yet knowing it enough to know you need a fake claim.

ALSO how come ratchet dies if he is town the real cop probably peeked him and will defend him.

Cause I'm bad at grilling people. If I were mafia, I'd never ask Ratchet about the cue-hit. Leaves it way too open to a TMI answer, which is exactly what he gave.

can you explain what made you think this

I mean you asked him a question he responded poorly too and you're bad at grilling people as a wolf so story checks out.

His answer was also YOUR opinion of the hit -- a quite strong opinion, in fact.

You two were the only ones who thought that way about it.

I'm glad slendy didn't agree to the handy before voting.