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06-25-2020 , 03:48 PM

#1676

shortline99

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Originally Posted by jonnyd

shorty i do find it interesting that you dont see that the easiest /high information counterwagon to you is luckbox. i think as a villager you'd have reached that conclusion.. or that if you were a wolf and if dustin were a villager that'd be the first thing you'd be pushing for.

you keep harping about how we learn nothing from your lynch and theres a lot to learn from yesterday.. well Dustin is sitting right there waiting to get resolved.

and honestly i feel like the most obvious reason for you not seeing this/not taking this route is that you two are wolf teammates

i have said all game that i have three villagers - wdcbooks, felix, and dustin. i'll change those reads later if i have to. i'm not changing them for convenience.

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06-25-2020 , 03:49 PM

#1677

mrs. jonnyd

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Originally Posted by wdcbooks

I am super lazy so I am not looking this up, but didn’t mrsjonnyd vote for jonnyd in a drive by and then later chide someone else for voting for him? What’s up with that?

That sort of happened? I was mostly poking fun by voting jonnyd but JDalla I believe jumped on it hard and I definitely didn’t like that vibe

I’m not AS suspicious of JDalla given today’s posting but I’m still keeping an eye on him

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06-25-2020 , 03:49 PM

#1678

shortline99

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that's not to say any of them are playing particularly well, but there are better votes today

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06-25-2020 , 03:50 PM

#1679

Sun Tzu

laconic

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 84,770

jdalla vs shortline isn't a dynamic since the role of one doesn't tell us anything about the other (other than they're probably not w/w)

shortline and dmk have that dynamic

not saying we should lynch either of them but either of them being w or v increases the chance the other is the opposite

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06-25-2020 , 03:52 PM

#1680

jonnyd

hey guys

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Originally Posted by shortline99

i have said all game that i have three villagers - wdcbooks, felix, and dustin. i'll change those reads later if i have to. i'm not changing them for convenience.

this is a fair response

i do think it solidly contradicts what you said earlier about the probable ton of info to be gained from late wagons yesterday though, given that the viable wagons were aao, luckbox and jdalla

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06-25-2020 , 03:53 PM

#1681

Sun Tzu

laconic

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 84,770

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Originally Posted by gusmahler

Only the vigilante kills have misfire chances. jdalla isn't claiming vig, he's claiming he won the character posting game, which didn't have misfire.

we have a missing night kill which I assume is the vig but could also be the sk if the vig shot bobo or could even be the wolf vig if the sk shot traz or birdman (which I consider very unlikely)

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06-25-2020 , 03:53 PM

#1682

BobOjedaFan

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******DEAD******

Sniffle... good luck all

******DEAD******

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06-25-2020 , 03:53 PM

#1683

YouKnowWho

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I dunno, I don’t see how Luckbox needs any resolving. It will just resolve itself - if he is a villa, the wolves will clap him soon. So if he is still alive tomorrow, strong wolf lean. If he is alive in two days, 100% wolf. In any case, no reason to waste votes on wagoning him, we should find better candidates.

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06-25-2020 , 03:55 PM

#1684

jonnyd

hey guys

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,320

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Originally Posted by shortline99

2-4 actual competing wagons instead of treating my lynch like a foregone conclusion. and acknowledging that jdalla's role and my role are actually independent.

i already posted my wolf list, and then people said they were "muting" me today, so that's been pretty demotivating in terms of providing further research or rationale

im ok with shortline/luckbox/gus wagons (in that order)

open to hearing compelling cases on other people (lots of UTR people could be a 4th wagon)

i dont feel all that comfortable leading things because of how wrong i was yesterday but i will advocate for multiple wagons

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06-25-2020 , 03:55 PM

#1685

JDalla

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Originally Posted by mrs. jonnyd

Yea I got a lot of grief for that post and it helped fuel the CFD most likely. To be fair it wasn't the best post, as I found jonnyd mildly shady but had no real conviction about him dying yesterday. I just wanted to stir things up a bit as the wagons felt stale (found aao shady but my eventual vote for him was to save myself and didnt feel good anymore). I also did notice that his defense didn't really refute the claim about his behavior, but overall the post had like 20% troll in it which made it look bad.

The good news is you don't have to suspect me anymore now. We gud

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06-25-2020 , 03:56 PM

#1686

VoraciousMother

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Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 957

Day 2: Automated Votals from #1634 to #1685

shortline99 (5): JDalla (20), dmk (39), Tokyo!! (34), wdcbooks (15), aaronk56 (8)
gusmahler (3): Kukraprout (44), shortline99 (55), jonnyd (18)
Crossnerd (1): Luckbox Inc (46)
dmk (1): coordi (7)
KruZe (1): YouKnowWho (14)
Not voting (13): atakdog (0), biggerboat (0), crackedquads (0), Crossnerd (0), Felix The Cat (0), gusmahler (13), KruZe (0), mrs. jonnyd (1), Nicholasp27 (0), riverfish1 (0), sixfour (0), Sun Tzu (8), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 5h3m. Hammer at 13.

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Spoiler:

<Beta v0.1.8>

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06-25-2020 , 03:56 PM

#1687

shortline99

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Originally Posted by jonnyd

knowing it was 3 villagers would be info too

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06-25-2020 , 03:58 PM

#1688

Sun Tzu

laconic

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 84,770

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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho

this makes no sense

why would the wolves ever kill him?

if he's a villager, he's still an asset for them

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06-25-2020 , 03:59 PM

#1689

JDalla

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btw I agree the village should be looking for more wolves and stuff today

hard for me to see anything past the context of shortline wolf and I'm trying to get stuff done so just kind of lurking for the moment personally

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06-25-2020 , 03:59 PM

#1690

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho

Wolves are never killing me this game. I've already pretty much claimed vanillager and I can't live till endgame. And my reads suck. Kill me today.

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06-25-2020 , 04:00 PM

#1691

Sun Tzu

laconic

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 84,770

does anyone think gus would be a bad lynch? seems like everyone agrees he's wolfy

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06-25-2020 , 04:00 PM

#1692

mrs. jonnyd

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I’m waiting to get my hands on the computer (jonnyd is hogging it) but I have to say I’m not crazy about JDalla or shortline wagons and that feeling is amplified by the fact that the people pushing the hardest are my top wolf candidates.. will try to come up with specific posts in an hour or so (once I get the computer)

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06-25-2020 , 04:01 PM

#1693

jonnyd

hey guys

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,320

Quote:

Originally Posted by VoraciousMother

Day 1: Automated Votals from #1275 to #1291

aao (6): Luckbox Inc (16), jonnyd (11), riverfish1 (0), BobOjedaFan (0), sixfour (0), Crossnerd (0)
Luckbox Inc (5): traz (12), wdcbooks (4), Birdman10687 (13), aao (8), mrs. jonnyd (6)
JDalla (5): atakdog (12), coordi (6), aaronk56 (5), Sun Tzu (11), Nicholasp27 (3)
atakdog (4): Kukraprout (0), dmk (2), JDalla (4), crackedquads (7)

while flawed (which doesnt necessarily make it wrong) my assumptions of the purity of the luckbox wagon at EOD yesterday are a big part of what i find damning.

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06-25-2020 , 04:03 PM

#1694

jonnyd

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Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,320

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouKnowWho

i dont see why wolves would kill him when he has been pretty consistently under suspicion. not that hes not a strong player but him tunneling aao d1 and kind of pushing xnerd today doesnt scream high priority spk

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06-25-2020 , 04:03 PM

#1695

Sun Tzu

laconic

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luckbox just explain to me how aao was wolfy

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06-25-2020 , 04:03 PM

#1696

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by jonnyd

while flawed (which doesnt necessarily make it wrong) my assumptions of the purity of the luckbox wagon at EOD yesterday are a big part of what i find damning.

Purely wrong. I'll start posting lolcats in a bit to get the ball rolling on me.

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06-25-2020 , 04:04 PM

#1697

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

luckbox just explain to me how aao was wolfy

I did that. Enough people believed me that he got lynched. Go read my posts.

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06-25-2020 , 04:06 PM

#1698

Sun Tzu

laconic

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 84,770

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

I did that. Enough people believed me that he got lynched. Go read my posts.

I'm not going back to read your posts when you're right here

give me a quick 1-2 sentence tl:dr

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06-25-2020 , 04:09 PM

#1699

Felix the Cat

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Originally Posted by YouKnowWho

Luckbox Inc

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06-25-2020 , 04:09 PM

#1700

Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu

I'm not going back to read your posts when you're right here

give me a quick 1-2 sentence tl:dr

Aao was super wolfy, made a bunch of wolfy posts, and level 0 posts. Some of his posts yesterday started seeming better but I decided they didn't outweigh the wolfy ones. The fact that he was hinting at claiming the whole time didn't help.

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