I can see a case where Shorty is not a wolf but it makes him the SK. But the problem is there aren't enough night kills. I don't think Shorty as SK would double up on any of the three kills.

Since, I'm not going to be on a computer or around that much for the rest of the day, I'll vote Shortline now.

my second post today was saying luckbox should be getting resolved. i also dont see how jdalla is a wolf here. that's basically the wagonomics from yesterday

as a show of goodwill gus

It is true though the last time we saw "emo Shorty"-- he was a wolf.
Still though a self-vote would go a long ways towards clearing you. I thought about voting myself too for that same reason.

I agree that we should vote you off sooner rather than later if shortline comes up villager or wolf.

Not even because of aao; your posting just isn't super useful. If you were trying to spur interactions and generate information as a villager, I think you'd make posts that... spur interactions and generate information. Instead it's mostly things that people aren't going to have meaningful responses to, which defeats the point of the volume-posting game, right?

But for the sake of conversation, why do you want to vote Crossnerd specifically? Versus the other LC options.

I just want her to explain why she switched from me to aao. Also because of what Birdman caught yesterday.

I do

I don't see villager you thinking aao was wolfy in the first place, let alone tunneling that blindly

calling traz wolfy and then only changing your mind when he votes you is also not a good look (at that point traz was already an obvious villager)

I had some doubts yesterday because shortline vouched for you but today I don't trust shortline at all

although to be fair, a large part of my suspicion of shortline is based on his defense of you

I know longer have doubts wrt you based on shortline's read of you but I now have "what if I'm wrong and they're both villagers?" doubts

did I really type "know longer"

I call shenanigans. must've been my phone

I am dissapointed in how this day has been developing. I guess shorty being on a wagon makes some sense since it is an easy lazy vote, and people are lazy. But this entire situatiion smells fishy and my gut is screaming that we are being manipulated in some way. What really sucks is that due to this stuff some people are again able to hide in the shadows when they should be in the spotlight and posting. I cant seem to get any traction on a KruZe wagon, CN is also not getting much heat, if any, it’s just kinda weird. We seem fixated on one or two things for entire days, which is just terrible for village. Sorry for wall of text, trying to phone post.

Vig should just shoot me tonight. Then if Shortine is a villager you guys should just blindly lynch down his wolf list (except crackedquads) and hope for the best. It'll be the only chance this game.

i dont have much room to talk since i have only really been posting in bursts and absent a lot but this thread state is just really foreign to me.. very dead and lots of people not posting. i understand why people feel like we are being manipulated here in a way.

maybe we did catch shorty and a lot of low volume wolves are just playing a wait and see game / dont really even want to comment on the whole thing

I was reading your history too fast. I apologize. I saw the second sentence of this post

and didn't realize you were paraphrasing him and not actually saying that aao is villagery

Unvote

sk duplicating a kill isn't the only possibility for the missing kill

there's also roleblock or misfire (both vig kills had 25% chance of not working)

sun do you think the shorty/jdalla claim needs resolving today or that we should look elsewhere

fair enough i can see how the wording could be ambiguous (though i do think the context makes it clear but if you were just reading it fast then fine)

I'm leaning toward wanting to resolve it because of the amount of information we would gain.

I'm not sure if that's correct but that's how I feel right now.

there's not a great way to explain this for people setting this up as a thunderdome, but here goes

JDALLA BEING A VILLAGER WHO SHOT ME DOES NOT MAKE ME A WOLF

JDALLA BEING A VILLAGER WHO SHOT ME DOES NOT MAKE ME A WOLF

JDALLA BEING A VILLAGER WHO SHOT ME DOES NOT MAKE ME A WOLF

JDALLA BEING A VILLAGER WHO SHOT ME DOES NOT MAKE ME A WOLF

he could also be a wolf! who shot me and i didn't die! so he thinks i'm the serial killer that he knows can't be killed at night! or just wants me dead!

you are all insane people to lynch me before even knowing JDalla's role. you're also insane to think it really matters towards making me a wolf.

wolves would be avoiding posting or voting REGARDLESS OF MY ROLE. if i'm a wolf, they don't want to out themselves. if i'm a villager, they're happy positioning today as a "lost day" where a villager gets lynched and you learn nothing.

either way you need to rethink how you're playing this day, because it is NOT going well.

this is not jdalla vs shortline. this is stupid village vs quiet wolves. wolves are winning.

How do you suggest playing today, shortline?

Sup Felix. Whatcha think of KruZe/CN wagons?

if we assume jdalla is a villager and telling the truth (I think I'm willing to do that), wolves role-blocking him doesn't make shortline a wolf

Only the vigilante kills have misfire chances. jdalla isn't claiming vig, he's claiming he won the character posting game, which didn't have misfire.

shorty i do find it interesting that you dont see that the easiest /high information counterwagon to you is luckbox. i think as a villager you'd have reached that conclusion.. or that if you were a wolf and if dustin were a villager that'd be the first thing you'd be pushing for.

you keep harping about how we learn nothing from your lynch and theres a lot to learn from yesterday.. well Dustin is sitting right there waiting to get resolved.

and honestly i feel like the most obvious reason for you not seeing this/not taking this route is that you two are wolf teammates

this did cross my mind. i guess we think he got role-blocked because he did an overt imitation in thread and wolves just played the numbers game?

2-4 actual competing wagons instead of treating my lynch like a foregone conclusion. and acknowledging that jdalla's role and my role are actually independent.

i already posted my wolf list, and then people said they were "muting" me today, so that's been pretty demotivating in terms of providing further research or rationale