The mods clarified that they randomized *every* role, so this whole point is moot.


I asked this because I found aaronk's claim that "he would never do this as Jabba wolf" to not make any sense if he understood how the characters were assigned, since in that case he would absolutely do it as a wolf or a villager.

His reply suggests he was not aware that all the characters are completely removed from good/evil probability.

yeah i was wrong on the jabba the hutt thing, my bad

clearly role neutral

Ok, I misunderstood.

Day 1: Automated Votals from #703 to #753

aao (4): Luckbox Inc (14), shortline99 (2), jonnyd (7), riverfish1 (2)
JDalla (3): traz (14), mrs. jonnyd (2), wdcbooks (12)
Luckbox Inc (2): aao (0), Birdman10687 (40)
Tokyo!! (1): JDalla (10)
crackedquads (1): sixfour (1)
traz (1): BobOjedaFan (0)
Kukraprout (1): Sun Tzu (0)
Crossnerd (1): atakdog (7)
YouKnowWho (1): Kukraprout (5)
Nicholasp27 (1): dmk (23)
dmk (1): Tokyo!! (8)
shortline99 (1): biggerboat (7)
Not voting (10): aaronk56 (17), coordi (1), crackedquads (5), Crossnerd (0), Felix The Cat (0), gusmahler (1), Kruze (0), Nicholasp27 (0), YouKnowWho (0), UNVOTE (0)

Phase ends in 6h53m.

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Maybe I don't directly say so in the stuff about you but I do say exactly that in my post - notably about biggerboat. I feel like it's more and more relevant the more experienced a player is.

Really zero thoughts otherwise?

it applies to dustin/me as well imo. clearing dustin for posting differently and calling me wolfy for posting similarly is just wrong. i'd say that if the roles were reversed too, calling me a villager just because i'm posting similarly to a previous game where i was a villager would be a bad call to make

that said, i strongly disagree w/ your kukra read. his posts/tone are completely different this game. i think he's a villager, for reasons beyond just differences in posting

if i have shots, i'm shooting the lowest volume poster tonight

Decided to take a few hours and do a full iso re-read of coordi......

I agree with dustin, crd wlf prbs

catching up:
i liked Tokyo's burst of posting and I think he made some good points.. i no longer have him as a top wolf

JDalla made a few posts during the same time but they did not significantly change my opinion on him

i liked Birdman's recent post about Shorty's use of 'obvious' and that post pinged me as well

hm i saw the first coordi post but not the 'no u'

not a great exchange for him, i agree

Like the effort here. Still neutral on kukra.

bigger starting to earn some attention with dmk, as they both seem to be lowey supporting suspicion of me, with "hot garbage list, still hot garbage reads" etc. This is a pretty safe criticism, as a villager on d0 my list is going to pretty much turn up looking like hot garbage. And a wolf would KNOW it was hot garbage, while villagers would have to pause and try to analyze the reasoning behind it.

Also, the fact that I had 3 votes (the 2nd most) on me from other players at the time, make this gently, low content nudging to make me look bad is worth flagging.

(disclaimer: could be overly paranoid / self centered with this theory)

pretty bad entrance post

anything of substance you'd like to add to the thread? any reads?

this

I feel like that's fair. I actually didn't know luckbox = dustin at start of the game. I'm not clearing him but my impression is that the difference is villagery. Though I did skim the recent titan game thread before this game started where he won as a wolf - it wasn't obvious to me.

WRT to you I don't recall playing with you so whether warranted or not I'm inclined to give less weight to the idea that your consistency between your previous wolf game one day ago and this game is just a matter of play style.

I don't think you're a lock or anything, we'll have to see how things progress.

What do you think about kukra's game history? I definitely don't see the changes that you say you're seeing but maybe that'll change after a closer look today

i'm really not a fan of these wagons

**** it, shortline

let’s do it

shortline

i don't remember ever playing w/ kukra. but in the lockgame his tone felt way more cautious. it's a pretty common wolf thing to do. don't rock the boat, put enough soft feelers out to be showing effort. if you're wrong, you don't look SUPER wrong because it was a soft read. if you're right, you get to say "thats what i thought!". and you can push wolves without really pushing wolves

villagers are way more likely to have more vocal/strong reads and stir up **** because they have 0 other knowledge and that's how they need to get their reads

good wolves will do that too though. no offense to kukra, but i don't think that's an adjustment he'd make in the 2-3 hours between games if he is a wolf again

and fwiw, i think dustin and i are probably 2 of the hardest players in this game to read correctly d1. obviously low-volume posters are impossible to read, but of people that are actually going to be active, i'll stand by that

unlike the 06 game, i'm getting a decent number of villager vibes from people and not a ton of wolf vibes. like i'm calling out crackedquads/jdalla's lists as being bad, but i don't necessarily think they're wolves. i just don't like their lists.

i also was terribad in the 06 game, so take that w/ a grain of salt

anyone complaining about the time i'm putting into this game should know that i actually run a company now. i feel traz's pain when he says anyone trying to get a read on him for lower participation in early stages can f*ck off (vowel excluded in honor of dustin)

my villager reads are "obvious" because other people have called them villagers too; my wolf reads are also obvious because they're the only reads and votes i've given in this game

i'm not putting in a lot of time on d1 because a) i don't have it, b) we have zero information, c) i don't usually consider myself a threat to be lynched

but if you feel like completely wasting your time, feel free to vote me

you just voted me, right? do you really want to go 0/3?

Re-read jonnyd. His list is bad. Three people getting a little heat for wolves and three people who haven't done much. If Mrs.AK was in the game and she was a villager and I was a wolf, I would call her a villager but I digress.

This post is wolfy but when questioned he explains it's based on tone and he'll find some specific posts. If he stopped there, I would say he was very wolfy but he gets village points for actually finding some posts to support his case.

All told, slight village lean.

Does jonnyd ever try to take out mrs jonnyd or vice versa. That would be fun to watch.

i'm not gonna be much help today because there weren't n0 actions, as i said in the pre-game thread

i'll hop on the jdalla wagon