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07-26-2011 , 05:56 AM
I wouldn't even defend yourself to him, it's tempting to correct the flawed logic but there's a saying that goes along the lines of, "don't argue with a idiot because they'll beat you with experience and bring you down to their level" especially true with a troll considering he's not even trying to be logical, on the contrary he's trying to evoke an response

It is difficult with poker, every thinks I'm some delusional gambler when I tell them I win at poker, somewhat frustrating. However, I picked up a vibe that, whether true or false, you're using the whole +EV thing to justify spewy life EV plays that inadvertently create -EV lines, or in other words, using the notion that you're a +EV player as an excuse to gamble in a -EU way http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expecte...ity_hypothesis

I used to, but haven't got the roll for it anymore, saving it for travel. They've added 2/2 now and made all games -1/2 100bb deep, seems like Sky City is now better than Crown, kinda very awesome.
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07-26-2011 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ThatsABingo
lol really? Alcoholics destroy their own lives. Alcohol does nothing. If you want to abuse drinking good for you ******, i drink lots of beer every weekend genreally quite drunk and my life is far from destroyed, if i wasnt drunk and high when I was playing late night online poker i wouldnt have won my 200k BBJ. I neverrrrr play really late unless im having lots of drinks, low traffic, but yea... simply put weak people with zero control = alcoholics
You probably think you smart smart, or worldly, but this post just comes off as an immature loser who has no idea about alcohol or alcoholism. FWIW I'm <25 and drink heavily quite often. But basically you have no idea what you're talking about.
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07-26-2011 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pat3392
I wouldn't even defend yourself to him, it's tempting to correct the flawed logic but there's a saying that goes along the lines of, "don't argue with a idiot because they'll beat you with experience and bring you down to their level" especially true with a troll considering he's not even trying to be logical, on the contrary he's trying to evoke an response

It is difficult with poker, every thinks I'm some delusional gambler when I tell them I win at poker, somewhat frustrating. However, I picked up a vibe that, whether true or false, you're using the whole +EV thing to justify spewy life EV plays that inadvertently create -EV lines, or in other words, using the notion that you're a +EV player as an excuse to gamble in a -EU way http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expecte...ity_hypothesis

I used to, but haven't got the roll for it anymore, saving it for travel. They've added 2/2 now and made all games -1/2 100bb deep, seems like Sky City is now better than Crown, kinda very awesome.
I haven't played there in a while, but last time I was there they were just about to up the rake: 15% capped at $15 up from 10% capped at $10... And they rake the hell out of the tournaments, something like ~35%. Better than Crown? Really? I'm yet to play there.

Woah man that article went way over my head haha. Ehhh, maybe you're right, I don't even know anymore.
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07-26-2011 , 06:48 AM
Up to 15%? That would make it un-grindable and possibly unbeatable for any non-genius players imo

I rang them today though, they said 10% rake capped at 5bb at 2/3, whereas Crown is according to a 2+2 person 10% capped at $8. $5ph time charge, so idk, rake is about the same, Sky City has deeper tables Crown has more tables to choose from/better fish I'd imagine

hehe yeah it did with me too, the first paragraph is the important idea of it all, it's not all about value, kinda common sense I guess
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07-27-2011 , 02:48 AM
You can try all you want pal, the truth of the matter is you are a scum bag piece of trash. Keep begging the community for money. Im surprised, usually bbv isnt so patient with scum bags. I guess they have a soft side because you did entertain them long enough.

But hey, enjoy being hooked up to trial meds for your entire life because you're too pathetic to get a job.

Pat, since you love giving your boyfriend numerous handjobs, why dont you stake him for all his tournies?

scumbags gonna scumbag
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07-27-2011 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WilliamDafoe
You can try all you want pal, the truth of the matter is you are a scum bag piece of trash. Keep begging the community for money. Im surprised, usually bbv isnt so patient with scum bags. I guess they have a soft side because you did entertain them long enough.

But hey, enjoy being hooked up to trial meds for your entire life because you're too pathetic to get a job.

Pat, since you love giving your boyfriend numerous handjobs, why dont you stake him for all his tournies?

scumbags gonna scumbag
While this is a harsh and really a bit over the top...he's right. It's time you start making things work for yourself and stop asking 2+2 to give you hand outs.

You're still holding onto something man. Something that cannot be obtained. You really do need to look within yourself right now.
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07-27-2011 , 04:03 AM
^^^ Just nailed 2nd place in a $3.30 hold 'em rebuy for $363, am no longer in search of staking. Had someone staked me the ~$12 I spent on this tournament I would be sending them a couple of hundred right now. At least now I get to keep the winnings and finally have a BR to work with again.

And just to clarify again for those that either can't read, or are just being ignorant, I was asking for a stake, as in a staking agreement where the person staking me would receive a share of the profits. I was not asking for free money. If you still have trouble understanding that I would highly recommend getting some help with your reading/writing skills, clearly trolling 2+2 aint cutting it.

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07-27-2011 , 07:04 AM
There's just a **** load of variance in PLO MTT, seems like setting yourself up for not such a good position, I'd advice being extra bank roll conservative, heck $363 isn't big enough for tournies no way. Also be wary of how playing poker is going to effect your state of mind, just think about the future man and how different lines will lead to different paths, with plans for each possible situation, like a poker hand, anyway I'm leaving to travel tomorrow, won't be able to reply, wish you all the best

EDIT: oh and even though you were asking for a stake not a hand out, nonetheless you are asking for petty money in the imho vain hope you will run good; you have ridiculously short sample, no sane person imo will think investing in you will be +EV 'cause you have no evidence to suggest you're even a winning player, I really don't think you understand variance. Play with this http://www.evplusplus.com/poker_tool...nce_simulator/ chuck in some numbers and see what kind of swings people will run through, than recognise that that is for a NLHE cash game, not a PLO MTT(insane variance)

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07-27-2011 , 07:08 AM
i havent logged on to this site in well over a year but i just discovered this epic thread and i am going to read it all
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07-27-2011 , 07:11 AM
also plo8 is where its at, much less variance than regular omaha and loads of fish would advise the op read up on it a little and give it a go
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07-27-2011 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Never Was Been
^^^ Just nailed 2nd place in a $3.30 hold 'em rebuy for $363, am no longer in search of staking. Had someone staked me the ~$12 I spent on this tournament I would be sending them a couple of hundred right now. At least now I get to keep the winnings and finally have a BR to work with again.

And just to clarify again for those that either can't read, or are just being ignorant, I was asking for a stake, as in a staking agreement where the person staking me would receive a share of the profits. I was not asking for free money. If you still have trouble understanding that I would highly recommend getting some help with your reading/writing skills, clearly trolling 2+2 aint cutting it.
LOL are you insane? You're asking the poker community to support your habit..again. You think because it's a stake, it doesnt mean anything? wow degen scum itt
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07-27-2011 , 11:15 AM
Wow guys stop hating, seriously let him do his thing, if you don't like it don't view the thread, who made you the moral police? must be hard to be so perfect.

NHB keep your chin up dude, life is long
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07-27-2011 , 11:16 AM
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But Op, you missed out. For sure you could have made some money with a prop bet that you wouldn't donate your body to science for 42 days or something.

Heck I woulda probably taken $1k action.
this is my favourite
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07-27-2011 , 01:05 PM
Am currently chipleader in another MTT, NeverWasBeen on Stars, 12 players to go, man it would be sick to take down another decent cash... Wish me luck!
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07-27-2011 , 01:56 PM
wow i just read the whole thread its 2am now and am up for work in 4 hours but it was worth it

regardless of what your opinions are of the NWB you have to admire his honesty, easy for all the anonymous trolls to give him **** but i for one am hoping this story has a happy ending

best of luck NWB keep updating and **** the haters
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07-27-2011 , 01:59 PM
also massive lol at this place being censored whats up with that, we can hear stories about people losing thousands in alcohol fueled binges and driving their cars while blackout drunk but we cant say **** or **** ?
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07-27-2011 , 02:01 PM
is anyone actually a long term winner at PLO tourneys??

GL NWB - have you ever tried stuff like CBT or mindfullness etc???
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07-27-2011 , 02:01 PM
Ehhhh. Was down to 8 players, I had made a couple of dumb mistakes just prior to this which unfortunately gave villain a bigger stack, but was still doing pretty good, 2nd in chips. Then this happened:

    Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Omaha Tournament, 3 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10090732

    BB: 20,635 (17.2 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 77,880 (64.9 bb)
    SB: 72,138 (60.1 bb)

    Preflop: (450) Hero is BTN with K K 3 J
    Hero raises to 3,600, SB calls 3,000, BB folds

    Flop: (8,850) 4 Q K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 6,000, SB calls 6,000

    Turn: (20,850) 2 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 68,130 and is all-in, SB calls 62,388 and is all-in

    River: (145,626) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Results: 145,626 pot
    Final Board: 4 Q K 2 5
    Hero showed K K 3 J and lost (-72,138 net)
    SB showed A 3 6 T and won 145,626 (73,488 net)



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.


    He called my flop bet pretty fast. He seemed willing to stack off on his draws, so when a blank hit the turn I figured I'd make him pay for them. I put him all in, he snap called and hit his gutshot. Left me with around 4BB's and got eliminated shortly after. Finished 7th out of 114, $37. One more spot would have been $51, argh. So much nicer.

    Hope all you guys that can still play online are running good. I'm gonna hit the sack and reflect on my little heater and just enjoy it for a bit.
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    07-27-2011 , 02:05 PM
    P.S. ^^Thanks Spud.

    Will reply to others tomorrow.
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    07-27-2011 , 02:16 PM
    nice OP, very nice
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    07-27-2011 , 03:08 PM
    Ya, it's pretty obvious you should quit poker.
    But you know that, good luck with AA and finding something rewarding to do with your life. It can easily turn around and you have every reason to have hope NWB. But poker will be a roadblock that will at the minimum eat up your time.
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    07-27-2011 , 05:28 PM
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    Originally Posted by Polov
    Finally someone else with sense, I cant believe there are so many people defending this scum I mean he is just another typical lowlife that happened to make a thread, I really dont see what everyone is so excited and 'touched' about hahahaahha this guy is absolute TRASH. The best part is he cant even realise how immensely pathetic his stake post appears, with his 218 games played graph trying to appear legit hahaahahahahaha man I haven't laughed that long in a while, so nice to watch the trash of the world try to function normally hahahhaahah. Last time I got banned and my post deleted for suggesting you do something so this time I'm just going to reinforce in your head that you are total trash at the lowest point in society and maybe if you hear that enough times you can exit your delusion that you are different from your degen scumbag lowlife counterparts the world over. As always, looking forward to your international bestseller ahahahahahahahahhaha ****ing loser.
    3rd the motion boys. Seein that graph actually made me laugh lol sample size! So funny yet sad reading this thread with his tales of ow he won like 10k in a week playin poker etc...

    On a real level NWb,man to man, give up cards. I was like you i go on runs making a k here and there but id always lose it, and when i did id blame it on something.

    Its only been lately i realized that i suck at poker and if i do make money its just luck. sure i won 6 figs in various mtt scores but that is why mtts are dangerous. they make fish like me and you think we are good.

    I have not touched poker for about 3 months and its unbelievable how my life has improved, i now have money to buy stuff, i am going on holiday soon. A year ago any cash i had strait into online poker

    I genuinly feel for you pal and if you want to hit me up for a priavte chat pm me

    keep on trukin 8-)

    jay b
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    07-27-2011 , 10:03 PM
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    Originally Posted by Polov
    "haters/trolls lol" typical degen in denial sucking dick. gimmick account bothered so sick typical one of many lowlife comments get to you hurts pathetic "haters lol lol lol just hating haters gonna hate trolls gonna troll lolololol"
    Happy much? At least you take time out of your day to try to help others. Delivery needs some work though.
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    07-27-2011 , 11:56 PM
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    Originally Posted by Jon Bradshaw
    3rd the motion boys. Seein that graph actually made me laugh lol sample size! So funny yet sad reading this thread with his tales of ow he won like 10k in a week playin poker etc...

    On a real level NWb,man to man, give up cards. I was like you i go on runs making a k here and there but id always lose it, and when i did id blame it on something.

    Its only been lately i realized that i suck at poker and if i do make money its just luck. sure i won 6 figs in various mtt scores but that is why mtts are dangerous. they make fish like me and you think we are good.

    I have not touched poker for about 3 months and its unbelievable how my life has improved, i now have money to buy stuff, i am going on holiday soon. A year ago any cash i had strait into online poker

    I genuinly feel for you pal and if you want to hit me up for a priavte chat pm me

    keep on trukin 8-)

    jay b

    Genuine question - if you haven't played for 3 months wouldn't spending your time here on a poker site have been better off spent elsewhere?
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    07-28-2011 , 12:01 AM
    If people wanna laugh at the small sample size, low stakes, or my refusal to give up hope, go right ahead.

    ^^ Man those WSPA ads break my heart, I just wired them $25. My mother is a pretty full on animal activist, I attended a rally with her to stop Australia sending it's livestock over to Indonesia to be slaughtered horrifically in the customary "Halal" way. Apparently they frown upon the use of stunning the animals before beating them and slicing their throats, the animal must be fully conscious and suffer to satisfy the halal requirements. What a f*cking joke. This is 2011 and humans still think this way. There was a pretty full on story about it on tv not long ago with horrendous footage, and I am happy that I have several vegan days a week - there's no meat or other animal products in this house. I give to them whenever I can afford it but I've been in bustoville.

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    Originally Posted by Spudhead
    wow i just read the whole thread its 2am now and am up for work in 4 hours but it was worth it

    regardless of what your opinions are of the NWB you have to admire his honesty, easy for all the anonymous trolls to give him **** but i for one am hoping this story has a happy ending

    best of luck NWB keep updating and **** the haters
    Thanks man, I can't believe you stayed up all night to read it haha, that's awesome. I get a kick out of that

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    Originally Posted by worpler
    is anyone actually a long term winner at PLO tourneys??

    GL NWB - have you ever tried stuff like CBT or mindfullness etc???
    Haha, I've read so many of your posts that make me think you've had more than a few ruins with PLO. It can definitely be a frustrating game, f*cked up sh*t happens way more often than in hold 'em. And when it's bad it's pretty pretty pretty pretty pretty bad.

    Is CBT something breathing techniques? I've learned a little about mindfulness in Tommy Angelo's 8-part series, but again it's one of the many things that I delve into at the same time as others, I need to sit down and finish one thing before I start another... But One day I will sit down and watch all of those again from start to finish.

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    Originally Posted by MadScientist
    Ya, it's pretty obvious you should quit poker.
    But you know that, good luck with AA and finding something rewarding to do with your life. It can easily turn around and you have every reason to have hope NWB. But poker will be a roadblock that will at the minimum eat up your time.
    The eating up time thing is right, I almost entered a tourney 2 minutes after waking up. Not only is that stupid, but it's a wonderful day today. I've just finished breakfast, shipped money to Jared Tendler for a copy of his book, and replied here, now I'm gonna go ride my bike, get some sun, maybe head to the beach.

    There is a 12 day medical trial on the horizon that I have expressed interest for and am awaiting a response. That means: no more smoking, no recreational drugs (which I have decided to avoid altogether anyway for my own reasons), and no job stacking shelves just yet. I really hope I get it this time, it is laughable how badly I want this. Another new start with some money, without the ominous specter of doom awaiting my departure.
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