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03-31-2010 , 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by blackgerbil1
I dont get it, i aint read the whole thread just got the cliffs bro, btw i train ufc.
ha ha ha -

ok now who is mr internet tough guy. who do you train?

what disciplines? which gym?

my name is blackgerbil1 & I TRAIN UFC

you know what they say about teachers,..... those who can do - those who cant teach!
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03-31-2010 , 06:50 AM
$1800 Received on Stars from blackize. TY for your judging efforts.

Phenomenal job from jalex, unbelievable stuff.
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03-31-2010 , 06:59 AM
Nice job Jalex, glad to see this thing finally came to a conclusion & Barewire helped make things easier.
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03-31-2010 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blackgerbil1
I dont get it, i aint read the whole thread just got the cliffs bro, btw i train ufc.
lol at calling people tough guys then telling us you train ufc
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03-31-2010 , 07:39 AM
To recognize Roseeker/Gary's apology as anything other than an angleshot for the future of their lives on poker sites is just naive. What horrible individuals.

PS nice job jalex and barlywine
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03-31-2010 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Klankster
To recognize Roseeker/Gary's apology as anything other than an angleshot for the future of their lives on poker sites is just naive. What horrible individuals.

PS nice job jalex and barlywine
Nah its so we don't out them/ bother them IRL (In REAL LIFE!!!)
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03-31-2010 , 07:54 AM
Superb job Jalex, and way to do the right thing Blazefire. GG cheats.

Last edited by xXDeuce7Xx; 03-31-2010 at 07:57 AM. Reason: Does owning a company make you awesome or do you need to be awesome to own a company?
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03-31-2010 , 08:00 AM
Don't bash me, but since this all seems to be over now...

Cliffs?
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03-31-2010 , 08:03 AM
i created this account to say this is ****in nuts and one of the most trainwreck of a thread evar
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03-31-2010 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Don't bash me, but since this all seems to be over now...

Cliffs?
gary put his money on the line and endeavored to make profit while playing 30k hands in a day

he completed his feat, but some haters decided to fill the thread with doubts and hate

gary was found innocent after a thorough investigation and has since shipped the money
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03-31-2010 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Don't bash me, but since this all seems to be over now...

Cliffs?
.
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03-31-2010 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by blackgerbil1
lol internet tough guy no.1
funny coming from ''say that to my face'' blackgerbil1.
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03-31-2010 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bulletproof Monk
gary put his money on the line and endeavored to make profit while playing 30k hands in a day

he completed his feat, but some haters decided to fill the thread with doubts and hate

gary was found innocent after a thorough investigation and has since shipped the money
You forgot that jalex has been banned from 2p2 and ps.
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03-31-2010 , 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bulletproof Monk
gary put his money on the line and endeavored to make profit while playing 30k hands in a day

he completed his feat, but some haters decided to fill the thread with doubts and hate

gary was found innocent after a thorough investigation and has since shipped the money
no u
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03-31-2010 , 08:16 AM
wow woke up to see this thread had moved on and read the whole lot from where I left off.

Great work jalex and props to sparetyre for doing the right thing.
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03-31-2010 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NANONUTS
It's bad enough that the poker world is so unregulated, the rare times that cheating is actually uncovered the cheaters should face harsh punishment to discourage other people from cheating in future. I mean what kind of precedent is it setting when you start showing undeserved mercy to lying scumbag cheaters - it certainly isn't going to act as a deterrent to other scumbags.

Courts apply leniency to guys who admit guilt, not to guys who try every trick in the book to get off. Gary and roseeker can't have it both ways, if they had've come clean it would've acted as mitigation and they would now be in the position where they would lose the bet/stars accounts/2+2 accounts but their personal info would not be disclosed. Not coming clean in the hope of getting away with it serves as aggravation and they should definitely have their info posted. These pr*cks tried to scam 8K(what is the correct figure?) from the 2+2 community and lied about it afterwards for a period of 10 days in the hope they would get away with it. No mercy for scumbags.

Suggestion: The only other option I see to having personal info outed is to pay a financial penalty. For example pay the bettors double on their bets. That is as much leniency as I could stomach. I actually think they should be paying more than double in all fairness if the punishment is to fit the crime. I think this is the most reasonable alternative punishment that can be applied out and it's a 'win-win' for all concerned - scumbags avoid having personal info posted, bettors get proper compensation for gary and roseekers 'hidden EV', harsh but fair punishment meted out on lying cheats. There would need to be some discussion over the actual compensation figure to be paid tho.
Since these guys tried to scam the bettors at odds of 3:1 shouldn't the financial penalty for having admitted their guilt after Jalex had to post the details also be at 3:1. For example , if bettor x offered 3000 : 1000 then for attempting to scam that 3000 they should pay 9000 to bettor x to keep their personal info private.

Also , Roseeker should also be offering to repay all the fees that he has received from grinderschool as he got the job on the basis of his ptr/opr stats that he has admitted doctoring. Now he has admitted cheating in the Prop bet ,the videos released and still to be released are effectively worthless to grinderschool and its subscribers.

Also , now that gary and roseeker have admitted cheating in the prop bet has anyone considered that they may have been cheating regularly. No doubt stars will have been looking to see if they have been sitting at the same tables in the past. As far as breeze and stoppedclock go , they are just as liable to have their accounts frozen and closed. Terms and conditions quite clearly say that you cannot allow anyone else to play on your account so why give the password out. There is no need to do that at all , and if you do that you might just as well give them access to your bank account as well.

As an aside , Do the poker networks share the personal details of anyone they catch cheating , and is it time that we as poker players push for a body that will coordinate the transfer of such data between pokersites/banks/card processors/ewallets, so that scammers can't just start up again at another site/network. Knowing that if you are caught on one site means that you will lose access to other sites as well as making it more difficult to withdraw will also act as a deterrent to help prevent scamming.
Obviously there will be ways around it , with scammers trying to get friends /relatives etc. to open accounts , but it will make it harder for them to operate , and theres always the chance that they themselves will get scammed out of there illicit gains.
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03-31-2010 , 08:27 AM
Raffdog asked this earlier, but I still wonder if they would have got away with this if Roseeker had just kept quiet and never appeared in this thread?

Then again I suspect Jalex might have dug it up somehow...
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03-31-2010 , 08:30 AM
BOOOM HEADSHOTS!
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03-31-2010 , 08:47 AM
The winner of the prop = Jalex, I thought the funds were supposed to be sent accordingly?

In all seriousness, FU SCUMBAGS, no sympathy at all.
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03-31-2010 , 08:50 AM
finally this mess is over. imo people who were on Gary's side even after jalex posted all evidence that said Gary was cheating owe apology to jalex!
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03-31-2010 , 09:06 AM
Def change the thread title to the

" scammers name" is a cheater and leave it at that. People that feel bad for this guy are stupid and possibly ******ed. He is only upset because he got caught, he figured scamming you over the internet he could get away with it. Obviously they put a good amount of time working out this scam so in return out his name but not his address. You don't need to know were he lives, but let google own this guy for awhile
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03-31-2010 , 09:31 AM
A+ thread, the 2p2 community eventually gets to teh bottom again.

If I was green I'd give jalex undertitle sherlock holmes
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03-31-2010 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by orange
brag: knew about alot of this information before it was posted

gj jalex
Take the green from this guy and give it to jalex :P
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03-31-2010 , 09:45 AM
For the love of God, cliffnotes for this thread!
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03-31-2010 , 09:47 AM
never mind, google is your friend.

Last edited by bleurain; 03-31-2010 at 09:51 AM. Reason: just google roseeker + facebook if you are really curious
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