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11-17-2016 , 12:52 AM

#11526

Prawney

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Its either going to be someone he will run through where he is the only draw in the fight or a fight vs someone that can draw aswell.. A Nate trilogy will draw and considering the previous 2 fights were @ 170 then i think the 3rd will be too so wont be for a belt and if Conor wins then he tries to make his next fight for the 170 belt.

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11-17-2016 , 12:56 AM

#11527

Johnny Truant

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Originally Posted by Prawney

He already said the trilogy fight will be at 55.

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11-17-2016 , 12:59 AM

#11528

Prawney

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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant

He already said the trilogy fight will be at 55.

Yeah you are right. I forgot he said that postfight. Still I think a matchup vs Nate is the most likely next fight unless its something crazy like Woodley or Mayweather

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11-17-2016 , 01:02 AM

#11529

t3hbandit

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

There's also precedent for this.

Anderson wanted to fight RJJ for a long time and the UFC wouldn't let him.

Situation is different as RJJ was completely past it and should have been retired while Anderson was GOATing in UFC, if Anderson got KTFO it'd be a disaster and UFC wasn't taking that risk.

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11-17-2016 , 01:06 AM

#11530

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One thing I will add is that in Conors last 4 fights have been really hyped by UFC. In 2 of them he won belts in dominating fashion that were fights that gave some good highlights but werent great to watch. The other 2 were vs Diaz and both were great fights to watch.

Its another reason why i think Diaz #3 is most likely. Conor's on top of the world and everyone is talking about it so put him in a fight that will be great to watch and make the casual fans want to stick around

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11-17-2016 , 01:08 AM

#11531

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Originally Posted by t3hbandit

Situation is different as RJJ was completely past it and should have been retired while Anderson was GOATing in UFC, if Anderson got KTFO it'd be a disaster and UFC wasn't taking that risk.

Oh, so you're saying Anderson would've had a better shot and this time it makes more sense because the boxer is still in their prime.

Got it.

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11-17-2016 , 01:11 AM

#11532

DodgerIrish

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Anderson was never nearly the kind of draw Conor is.

They have more to risk than before.

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11-17-2016 , 01:42 AM

#11533

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

Oh, so you're saying Anderson would've had a better shot and this time it makes more sense because the boxer is still in their prime.

Got it.

UFC had nothing to gain, RJJ was a shadow of himself and was getting KO'd in round 1 by Danny ****ing Green. Had they beat RJJ everyone laughs and says so what he's finished and if he loses it makes the supposed p4p #1 look terrible.

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11-17-2016 , 01:43 AM

#11534

t3hbandit

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

Anderson was never nearly the kind of draw Conor is.

They have more to risk than before.

And because of how big a draw he is Conor can call the shots, if he wants to box Floyd he'll get it done and UFC can do one.

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11-17-2016 , 01:46 AM

#11535

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We don't know what kind of contract Conor has. Is his contract set up so after Floyd embarrasses him he can ride off into sunset or does he have to still fight 5 fights and grind in ring as a loser?

Honestly I think he should risk it. This is a one in a lifetime chance, if he manages to somehow beat Floyd he would make millions on top of whatever the fight gets him. He would be a legend.

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11-17-2016 , 01:50 AM

#11536

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Well he can retire anytime he wants which is literally what you're asking.

He can't compete in other combat sports while under contract without the UFC's okay. This is rudimentary stuff.

This is also why some guys have signed in other orgs other than the UFC that would let them just moonlight in MMA. Tyrone Spong for example. Joe Schilling with Bellator.

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11-17-2016 , 01:57 AM

#11537

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Originally Posted by t3hbandit

And because of how big a draw he is Conor can call the shots, if he wants to box Floyd he'll get it done and UFC can do one.

Oh okay, your argument a sec ago was that the UFC didn't want to risk it with Anderson but with Conor the loss wasn't a big deal because Floyd hasn't fallen off.

Now your argument is that Conor calls the shots.

Cool. You gotta be right one way or another.

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11-17-2016 , 02:04 AM

#11538

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I think the fact that the UFC has already pulled him off a card is indicative of Conor not calling all the shots. And that was a card that was a huge deal for them personally (200). He already tried to leverage a situation and it blew up in his face.

Businessmen know what happens when you let the inmates run the asylum.

They're walking a line but they're always going to put their own interests first.

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11-17-2016 , 03:39 AM

#11539

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x-posting:

Is CM Punk prbly a lesser star if he were to return to wrestling after his complete embarrassment vs Gall?

I would guess yes. If Conor put on that kind of performance, that's what we're looking at when he goes back to MMA. He's still Conor, but the luster of his standup prowess is gone to a non-negligible amount of casual buyers.

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11-17-2016 , 03:43 AM

#11540

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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

It was a business move by Dana. He proves to the media Conor doesn't control him and also they spread out their money a bit. They had Brock on 200 so putting Conor on a different card makes them more money and keeps fans paying attention to get ready for UFC 205.

Notice also that Dana has calmed down a bit, it must have been something to do with the Diaz brothers. Dana was really tense during those fights.

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11-17-2016 , 10:48 AM

#11541

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god i had forgotten how terrible all the 'crossover' argument are. They're just as awful as they were last time.

No, Conor would not have a chance against Floyd. No, not even a small one. No, there's not going to be a 'mixed rules' fight that Floyd would ever agree to, because Floyd is famous for meticulously picking his fights and he cares about retiring undefeated.

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11-17-2016 , 11:02 AM

#11542

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Yeah but if connor makes $200mill from it, does he give a **** if he looks foolish?

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11-17-2016 , 11:40 AM

#11543

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I think the max Conor would make is $50 mill which is insane chunk on money but I think the UFC would take a cut of that too which would still be a lot of money for Conor. Lets not think Mayweather will split the purse or not take 75% of it. Thank gawd it won't happen though.

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11-17-2016 , 11:54 AM

#11544

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Make it a best out of 3- boxing, MMA, Dancing with the Stars-off

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11-17-2016 , 11:56 AM

#11545

dlorc

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1st match boxing, mayweather wins.
2nd match mma, connor wins.
3rd match - read 1 chapter of harry potter to completion. Draw?

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11-17-2016 , 12:44 PM

#11546

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Originally Posted by dlorc

1st match boxing, mayweather wins.
2nd match mma, connor wins.
3rd match - read 1 chapter of harry potter to completion. Draw?

How about:

1st match boxing, mayweather wins.
2nd match mma, connor wins.
3rd match - ground grappling only, both lose.

?

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11-17-2016 , 01:37 PM

#11547

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lol at thinking the most bankable boxer ever would agree to anything but straight up boxing

lol at assuming I've ever even wasted a single thought on Mayweather

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11-17-2016 , 01:49 PM

#11548

Alpha Fish

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wat

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11-17-2016 , 01:54 PM

#11549

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Originally Posted by Boston Matrix

How about:

1st match boxing, mayweather wins.
2nd match mma, connor wins.
3rd match - ground grappling only, both lose.

?

who would win the fight if McGregor wore boxing gloves and mayweather wore ufc gloves?

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11-17-2016 , 03:57 PM

#11550

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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_

Glad somebody said it. Complete and utter nonsense that they'd fight each other.

1 fight v Floyd and Conor can retire as a rich bum (he'd be made to look like one in the ring for sure). 5 fights v whoever in UFC and Conor cements his legacy for eternity and still gets the $$$$$.