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11-16-2016 , 07:44 PM
Khabib also threatening to leave the ufc if he doesn't get the next title shot. They should all leave and let McGregor and Ronda fight for the ufc unified weight/gender title.


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11-16-2016 , 08:00 PM
I think it's possible Conor's contract is up because now Dana seems to be okay with a Mayweather fight while before he wasn't.
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11-16-2016 , 08:16 PM
No.

Negotiations may have already occurred though.
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11-16-2016 , 08:40 PM
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Waste of time? No way. James Toney vs Randy Couture in the UFC was a waste of time as Randy immediately took him down and submitted him, but the only possibility of an early stoppage in this case is if Conor mercs him.

Floyd is a point fighter with not a lot of power, and Conor is a biggish dude at 147lbs. Floyd could, I suppose, outpoint him every round while evading significant damage as he's pretty much always done, but without Conor dropping Floyd, it goes the distance.

Even if Floyd is winning every round, the drama of weather or not Conor can put the touch of death shot on him will be present.
There will be no drama and it will be clear to everyone that Conor can't lay a finger on him after the first 30 seconds. You "suppose Floyd could out point him every round"? Oh my goodness. Yeah, Floyd will win every round and it will go the distance, it will be a very shtty fight.

Conor power punches over under? 2?
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11-16-2016 , 08:52 PM
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He prbly trains hard af
it's that AKA San Jose... this happens to most of their major fighters (Cain, Khabib, Rockhold...)
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11-16-2016 , 08:56 PM
Ufc would probably get a piece of the pie if May vs Mc happens plus a lot of publicity. So its a win win for them. McGregor also has nothing to lose and gigantic upside if he somehow pulls off a win. PBF is the only one with anything to lose but I am sure that 9 digit payday would help alleviate the small risk he is taking with this fight.

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11-16-2016 , 09:03 PM
Except if their cash cow gets humiliated.

No longer win win. How much do they get compared to what they get when Conor fights under their umbrella? If it's less - not win win.

I don't think the pie is big enough but maybe. They may cave to Conor on this as compromise for something else. The situation is far from win win though.
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11-16-2016 , 09:15 PM
If Floyd takes this fight with zero preparation it's still going to be a total annihilation. You don't need ko power to ko your opponent - a few dozen head strikes would cumulatively do the trick. Also, let's not pretend like Conor suddenly has cardio to last full 12 rounds.
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11-16-2016 , 09:48 PM
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Waste of time? No way. James Toney vs Randy Couture in the UFC was a waste of time as Randy immediately took him down and submitted him, but the only possibility of an early stoppage in this case is if Conor mercs him.

Floyd is a point fighter with not a lot of power, and Conor is a biggish dude at 147lbs. Floyd could, I suppose, outpoint him every round while evading significant damage as he's pretty much always done, but without Conor dropping Floyd, it goes the distance.

Even if Floyd is winning every round, the drama of weather or not Conor can put the touch of death shot on him will be present.
Floyd made the best offensive boxer of his generation swing and miss on 4 out of every 5 punches he threw.

That's the best one boxing had to offer. Conor is so far below Manny it doesn't merit comparison.

This fight would not be interesting. It would not be fun (unless you hate Conor). It would be 36 minutes of Conor swinging at air.



If you want a fun fight, have Conor fight Manny. He'll still lose 12-0 if he doesn't get KO'd, but at least he'll land a few.
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11-16-2016 , 09:58 PM
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Floyd made the best offensive boxer of his generation swing and miss on 4 out of every 5 punches he threw.

That's the best one boxing had to offer. Conor is so far below Manny it doesn't merit comparison.

This fight would not be interesting. It would not be fun (unless you hate Conor). It would be 36 minutes of Conor swinging at air.

If you want a fun fight, have Conor fight Manny. He'll still lose 12-0 if he doesn't get KO'd, but at least he'll land a few.
Paul Williams or Winky Wright would have been the "best boxing had to offer" for Floyd. Manny is a small dude who might have been on the juice as Floyd claimed pre testing, and who knows, maybe his shoulder was f'ed up as well.

Interest in the event isn't a problem, we all know it's there. I just hope Floyd grows a pair and tries his best to make this happen.
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11-16-2016 , 10:04 PM
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Except if their cash cow gets humiliated.
Meh you are supposed to get your ass kicked when you are on your first professional boxing match against one of the best boxers of all time. No matter how bad it is it wont be worse than losing to 1-week notice Nate Diaz. He can ask for a rematch in the octagon etc.

No longer win win. How much do they get compared to what they get when Conor fights under their umbrella? If it's less - not win win.
Yea but the publicity. A fight with Floyd will reach a lot of people and his stupid antics will make a lot of people interested in following him after the fight.

I don't think the pie is big enough but maybe. They may cave to Conor on this as compromise for something else. The situation is far from win win though.
I dont know how much the ufc would make from this fight directly but overall I feel like the upsides far outweight the downsides.
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11-16-2016 , 10:05 PM
Oh for fuc...you know what, the combat sports world deserves this fight.

Full speed ahead I say
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11-16-2016 , 10:07 PM
If this dumpster fire does happen, I want:

O/U on Conor rounds won on total cards: Under 1.5
O/U on Conor power shots landed per Compubox: Under 20%

at even money. Come get it Herb
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11-16-2016 , 10:08 PM
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I don't see how Conor getting thoroughly embarrassed helps the UFC long term.

I think you're starting from a false premise that Conor doesn't do severe damage to his image.

If anything it could delegitimize MMA in the eyes of a bunch of casuals. We're right back to 'boxers are the real fighters' like was the meme a decade ago.
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11-16-2016 , 10:10 PM
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Meh you are supposed to get your ass kicked when you are on your first professional boxing match against one of the best boxers of all time. No matter how bad it is it wont be worse than losing to 1-week notice Nate Diaz. He can ask for a rematch in the octagon etc.
The visual will be so worse.

Conor won that first round pretty handily.
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11-16-2016 , 10:12 PM
And to be clear, I'm down for the fight like RT
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11-16-2016 , 10:12 PM
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I don't see how Conor getting thoroughly embarrassed helps the UFC long term.

I think you're starting from a false premise that Conor doesn't do severe damage to his image.

If anything it could delegitimize MMA in the eyes of a bunch of casuals. We're right back to 'boxers are the real fighters' like was the meme a decade ago.
Nary a word of this is wrong.

Boxers are (save for Toney) smart enough not to wander outside their sport. The only time a boxer is going to use his skills outside the ring is when Floyd is upset with a girlfriend. Crossover stunts are going to be won by the guy who has "home field" because high level sports are tough duh.
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11-16-2016 , 10:18 PM
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If this dumpster fire does happen, I want:

O/U on Conor rounds won on total cards: Under 1.5
O/U on Conor power shots landed per Compubox: Under 20%

at even money. Come get it Herb
Eh, who knows. Maybe we'll be able to work something out.

I think Connor should just conserve his energy and back Floyd into the corner...cut off the ring etc, and only then really open up on him. Somewhat like triple G.

I don't think Floyd's shoulder roll is going to be that great vs a guy throwing lasers with his left hand...

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11-16-2016 , 10:19 PM
I think it'd turn into one of those youtube videos where BULLY GETS HIS COMEUPPANCE gets shown in perpetuity across all major media outlets.

Conor will talk. And then get humiliated.
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11-16-2016 , 10:21 PM
There's also precedent for this.

Anderson wanted to fight RJJ for a long time and the UFC wouldn't let him.
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11-16-2016 , 10:44 PM
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If Floyd takes this fight with zero preparation it's still going to be a total annihilation. You don't need ko power to ko your opponent - a few dozen head strikes would cumulatively do the trick. Also, let's not pretend like Conor suddenly has cardio to last full 12 rounds.
if limited to boxing rules of course. But who wants to see that?

If they fight it better have the same rules as couture/toney. I'd take Conor even if ground game wasn't allowed. No way in hell Floyd's ever been kicked before
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11-16-2016 , 11:42 PM
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if limited to boxing rules of course. But who wants to see that?

If they fight it better have the same rules as couture/toney. I'd take Conor even if ground game wasn't allowed. No way in hell Floyd's ever been kicked before
lol at thinking the most bankable boxer ever would agree to anything but straight up boxing
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11-17-2016 , 12:22 AM
Conor isn't even floating anything other than boxing rules.

lol at this happening. Conor is saying he'll do it for 100mm and he would, but it's all publicity. Pbf has put more effort into his public feuds with 50cent and TI than this one. This discussion was happening with Ronda a while back. It's TMZ bull****. The Incredible Hulk will fight Popeye before this happens.

Or maybe it will, the **** do I know?
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11-17-2016 , 12:30 AM
I wouldnt be suprised if the 3 fights conor is considering right now is trilogy with Diaz, Title Fight vs Woodley and Boxing vs Mayweather. He never dodged a fight on his path to the top but i do think things fell his way in terms of how the path played out but now that he is securely on top with noone ever close, he should use that to pick his fights.

Sure people like Khabib, Ferguson, Aldo etc are worthy opponents but Conor sells as many PPV's fighting a bottom of the card guy as he would any of those guys. The Problem the UFC has right now is that they have a legit once in a generation superstar that sells fights and no real counter for him to fight. Its why i can see a Nate trilogy as the next fight, because all the casuals know who Nate is now because of Conor and that fight would sell.

Personally i feel like the next round of fights is Conor is some gimmick fight and have Khabib vs Ferguson main event a card building it as the #1 contender to fight Conor
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11-17-2016 , 12:40 AM
I am not sure Conor wants to fight Diaz so soon, that fight can go either way and if Conor loses......uhg. I think he wants to fight people that will not effect his 2 belts or fight someone he thinks he will run through.
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