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11-17-2016 , 05:51 PM
Khabib has a higher chance of ruining the McGregor mystique than Mayweather, as he might very well be the greatest wrestler/ground and pounder the UFC has ever seen.

Mayweather is a great point fighter, but its difficult to make someone really look bad while backing up and avoiding conflict to the casual observer.

At worst this fight looks like Mayweather vs Canelo, Mayweather vs Maidana, or Mayweather vs De La Hoya, where most fans would say Mayweather is boring and runs like a bitch. Granted, I understand a win is a win and all that, but to the average fan Mayweather rarely makes people look bad. (he rarely wins in devastating fashion)

The only fights I can think of where Mayweather really taints his opponent were vs Diego Corrales at 137, Arturo Ghatti, and Ricky Hatton. Obviously Victor Ortiz had a sever mental lapse in their fight, and so he clowned himself if you want to count that.
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11-17-2016 , 06:00 PM
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who would win the fight if McGregor wore boxing gloves and mayweather wore ufc gloves?
Conor
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11-17-2016 , 06:50 PM
Dana took some shots at Floyd so I think this **** is actually for real this time.
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11-17-2016 , 06:58 PM
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Dana took some shots at Floyd so I think this **** is actually for real this time.
Dana took shots at Floyd when the question was Ronda beating him. Why on earth would he turn down free publicity?
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11-17-2016 , 07:25 PM
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Dana took shots at Floyd when the question was Ronda beating him. Why on earth would he turn down free publicity?
because 2 months ago he seemed opposed to it
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11-17-2016 , 07:31 PM
Dear **** please stop talking shiet about conor putting it up to floyd. He gets beat and guess what he gets hurt bad and stopped imo. People saying floyd doesn't hit hard give me a break. He's in against guys who have high calibre boxing skills and IQ who can avoid taking shots flush. Now mayweather isn't a hard hitter in top level boxing circles maybe but I challenge anyone of you experts to take a shot from floyd and see how hard it feels.

Conor's whole posture and stance for boxing is wrong. Conor's got this wide almost karate like stance which attributes to generating the power he does. In a strictly boxing tie every time conor commits to throwing a shot he's gonna get tagged just like Eddie did against him.
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11-17-2016 , 08:28 PM
It's gonna be Corrie Sanders vs Vladimir klitschko or Tarver vs Roy Jones all over again. He simply won't be able to get out of the way of that left hand.

Floyd's not dumb. He's ducked tall leftys his whole career. Will he take a risk for 150 mil plus or save face and his legacy? My guess is that Floyd stays retired.

1 time Floyd, grow a pair of balls and make this fight happen.
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11-17-2016 , 09:29 PM
New to the thread, so sorry if this has already been discussed. I agree with Nate that CM should stay down in his own weight. Let him really dominate for a couple more years before he tries to move up further.
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11-17-2016 , 09:33 PM
Also, it'd be kinda silly for Mayweather to take on CM. CM should have to earn his way up there if he really wanted to box. Sure, with his stature he may deserve a break, but not that high.

It's kinda like Lesnar when he first hit MMA, he wasn't that good.

Who else has switched combat sport to combat sport, meaning while at the top of one sport, trying to enter the other sport at the top?
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11-17-2016 , 10:10 PM
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Also, it'd be kinda silly for Mayweather to take on CM. CM should have to earn his way up there if he really wanted to box. Sure, with his stature he may deserve a break, but not that high.
In this vein, this whole "double champ" thing is sort of a mixed bag to me.

I'm of the (outdated) belief that belts should and do mean something. To that end, I find it off that Conor gets to jump up and challenge for another weight's belt immediately (worse, after going 1-1 against the #5 ranked guy in that weight class). Why not do superfights at a catch weight?

I guess there's not a huge win in there because even at 150, when Eddie gets waxed it sort of neuters his belt anyway, but Conor is a long way from proving he's the best at 155.

I know it's all for show, but it sucks seeing MMA pretty quickly devolve into a circus.
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11-17-2016 , 10:20 PM
lol @ Eddie telling Chael Sonnen the whole plan was go left and mostly wrestle, shows exactly what I thought about Eddie and Mark Henry, they're completely delusional if they think that alone would have worked against Conor. Eddie now acts like he didn't follow that plan, but in reality, he slipped a few times before the fight and said he would start wrestling Conor in the later rounds. This just shows how oblivious him and his team are when it comes to Conor McGregor, you have to be really dumb to believe his wrestling is the same as it was a year and a half ago when he fought Chad Mendes, and that his cardio is the same it was against Nate Diaz in the first fight. Not to mention how often Eddie is getting hit in his fights and how accurate and well timed Conor's shots are. Exactly what I thought, mediocrity at its finest.
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11-17-2016 , 11:02 PM
Conor's game changed a lot after he lost to Diaz, especially his take down defense. Eddie's camp had to have noticed this or they are delusional. It did seem like in press conferences that Eddie was focusing a lot on the Mendes fight.

The biggest thing I learned from UFC 205 is how tough Diaz is. Eddy crumpled, the fact Diaz lasted 5 rounds is actually insane.
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11-17-2016 , 11:17 PM
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In this vein, this whole "double champ" thing is sort of a mixed bag to me.

I'm of the (outdated) belief that belts should and do mean something. To that end, I find it off that Conor gets to jump up and challenge for another weight's belt immediately (worse, after going 1-1 against the #5 ranked guy in that weight class). Why not do superfights at a catch weight?

I guess there's not a huge win in there because even at 150, when Eddie gets waxed it sort of neuters his belt anyway, but Conor is a long way from proving he's the best at 155.

I know it's all for show, but it sucks seeing MMA pretty quickly devolve into a circus.
Conor didnt get the title fight on the back of going 1-1 with the #5 ranked guy. He got the title fight on the back of KO'ing the P4P champ in 13 seconds. The Diaz fights were a detour because RDA pulled out on a weeks notice. Once the Diaz detour was done Conor just got back on the course he was previously on.
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11-17-2016 , 11:28 PM
Well, Eddie said some bs about Nate as well, something about him winning half of his fights and losing half of his fights, and how his grandma wouldn't be taken down by Nate either. Pretty much in the same line he spoke about Conor as well, like they are both hyped up by the media. So yeah, straight up delusional. He just tought he could take down Conor whenever he wanted, dunno where this confidence in his wrestling comes from, he was probably pretty good in high school or something
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11-17-2016 , 11:47 PM
Eddie looked like a good wrestler vs Anthony Pettis. He totally committed to the ground game in a Clay Guida like fashion in that one.
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11-18-2016 , 01:24 AM
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Oh okay, your argument a sec ago was that the UFC didn't want to risk it with Anderson but with Conor the loss wasn't a big deal because Floyd hasn't fallen off.

Now your argument is that Conor calls the shots.

Cool. You gotta be right one way or another.
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

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I think the fact that the UFC has already pulled him off a card is indicative of Conor not calling all the shots. And that was a card that was a huge deal for them personally (200). He already tried to leverage a situation and it blew up in his face.

Businessmen know what happens when you let the inmates run the asylum.

They're walking a line but they're always going to put their own interests first.
lol cool story bro.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/11/1...w-fighter-ever
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11-18-2016 , 01:26 AM
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Eddie looked like a good wrestler vs Anthony Pettis. He totally committed to the ground game in a Clay Guida like fashion in that one.
Petis doesn't hit like Conor.
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11-18-2016 , 01:42 AM
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Conor didnt get the title fight on the back of going 1-1 with the #5 ranked guy. He got the title fight on the back of KO'ing the P4P champ in 13 seconds. The Diaz fights were a detour because RDA pulled out on a weeks notice. Once the Diaz detour was done Conor just got back on the course he was previously on.
This is all completely correct.

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I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

lol cool story bro.
Solid counter arguments.

The fact that Conor is the #1 PPV star was never in dispute. I don't know if you watched him in Europe but I've watched every fight live from Brimage on and get pumped for all his fights. I called him KO'ing Eddie right when the fight was announced in EDF.

Other facts are still facts though fanboy. You being ignorant to how things work isn't a cool story bro.
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11-18-2016 , 01:42 AM
Eddie was full of himself because he thought Conor ducked him when he fought Diaz.

The end.
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11-18-2016 , 02:18 AM
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This is all completely correct.



Solid counter arguments.

The fact that Conor is the #1 PPV star was never in dispute. I don't know if you watched him in Europe but I've watched every fight live from Brimage on and get pumped for all his fights. I called him KO'ing Eddie right when the fight was announced in EDF.

Other facts are still facts though fanboy. You being ignorant to how things work isn't a cool story bro.
I've watched all of his fights and attended 3 live. Think it's you whose ignorant as to how things work fanboy. Conor was allowed to move up and fight for 2 titles which was denied to Aldo/Petis in the past, he was given an immediate rematch vs Diaz when Dana was against it followed by a title shot even when Khabib/Ferguson were more deserving at 155.
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11-18-2016 , 02:27 AM
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Eddie looked like a good wrestler vs Anthony Pettis. He totally committed to the ground game in a Clay Guida like fashion in that one.
They say the game plan goes out the window when you get hit like Eddie did in that first knockdown.

He was doing well leg kicking him until then then he tried to box with Conor lol
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11-18-2016 , 05:52 AM
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Dear **** please stop talking shiet about conor putting it up to floyd. He gets beat and guess what he gets hurt bad and stopped imo. People saying floyd doesn't hit hard give me a break. He's in against guys who have high calibre boxing skills and IQ who can avoid taking shots flush. Now mayweather isn't a hard hitter in top level boxing circles maybe but I challenge anyone of you experts to take a shot from floyd and see how hard it feels.
Agree, and it's not as if Floyd hasn't bloodied and battered up opponents in his career. One fight I specifically remember was the Arturo Gatti fight and then of course we saw what happened in the Ricky Hatton fight. Those brawler type fighters with slower hand speed never stood a chance against Floyd. Mayweather would do the same to McGregor imo. Nothing against McGregor and I really enjoy his personality and his skill set in his sport but he would not just get out pointed by Floyd if they fought in a boxing rules match. Floyd would bloody and batter him up badly if he didn't get knocked out before that point.
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11-18-2016 , 05:59 AM
I mean, just watch this video.

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11-18-2016 , 08:52 AM
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Conor didnt get the title fight on the back of going 1-1 with the #5 ranked guy. He got the title fight on the back of KO'ing the P4P champ in 13 seconds. The Diaz fights were a detour because RDA pulled out on a weeks notice. Once the Diaz detour was done Conor just got back on the course he was previously on.
Right, and that's still dumb. It devalues everything for the sake of the show. I understand why they do it, it just sucks for the division.
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