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Old 01-17-2013, 03:47 PM   #1726
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Re: Manti Te'o: Imaginary dead girl tweeting shortly

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For those wondering why Teo didn't just get with a girl at ND and needed to resort to online, the article posted a few pages ago alleges that it was well known that Teo was in multiple relationships with girls at the school.

Good read and seems like the most likely story to me. Here it is again:

http://collegespun.com/big-east/notr...x#.UPhSxCeYtsP
Best line I've seen taken where he doesn't actually know about the hoax. But, tries to use the hoax to his benefit thinking she was a real person that really died, and just sweep it under the rug because he was never actually that invested. Just wow. This makes a ton of sense to me. So sick.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:49 PM   #1727
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troall treet from LK:

L K ‏@LennayKay

My statement: This is incredibly embarrassing to talk about, but I have been told by Alabama's offense that Manti Te'o is not real.


https://twitter.com/LennayKay/status/291991188607758336

has Anonymous shown any interest in this story yet?
This is hall of fame stuff right here.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:49 PM   #1728
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

GOAT tweet
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:50 PM   #1729
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Possible brain fart for End Game theories by scammer:

* Massive leveraged bet on the natty game.
* diversion created by Lance Armstrong

That's all I got.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:50 PM   #1730
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

I am really hoping the Hodgetwins respond on youtube. If you have not seen their response videos I highly recommend - the response to James Yeager was insta classic.


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Old 01-17-2013, 03:51 PM   #1731
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

whoever changed thread title should be demodded
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:52 PM   #1732
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The Deadspin article said the Twitter account with "Reba's" picture as Lennay was @LoveMSMK, iirc.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:52 PM   #1733
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

Yeah, not a fan of the new title at all. "Manti Ruh'Ro" would have been my choice.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:56 PM   #1734
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Is that really Ronnaiah?
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:57 PM   #1735
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

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Is that really Ronnaiah?
Seems like odds on favorite is that it's some troll who realized the account was down, re-opened it under that name, which I guess preserves the old account stuff (my understanding of it anyways)
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:58 PM   #1736
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

How exactly is it possible that this just keeps getting better
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:58 PM   #1737
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

Deadspin with a great summation of where media dicked up well before revelation of this hoax:

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When was Lennay Kekua's life-threatening car accident?

Pete Thamel's Oct. 1 Sports Illustrated article says the accident happened on April 28. An ESPN.com article on Nov. 13 says it happened eight months before her death in September, which would put her accident in January. The South Bend Tribune says it happened "around the time they became a couple."

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When did Lennay Kekua die, and did she die before or after Te'o's grandmother?

Here's the most wildly diverging and most insanely contradictory element of the entire Te'o-Kekua scenario. Lennay Kekua's death was reported as having happened on Sept. 11 (per the Sept. 21, Sept. 23, and Sept. 29 South Bend Tribune and the Oct. 26 New York Times), Sept. 12 (per the Sept. 16 and Oct. 13 South Bend Tribune as well as Thamel's SI article and most other sources), Sept. 13 (KHON-Honolulu on Sept. 14, and KITV-Honolulu on Sept. 15), Sept. 14 (the Dec. 30 New York Post), and Sept. 15 (ESPN on Dec. 7, the Associated Press on Dec. 7, and CBS on Dec. 6).

Meanwhile, there was somehow debate over which woman died first. The Oct. 13 South Bend Tribune reports that Lennay Kekua had sent a text message to Manti's parents, Brian and Ottilia, "expressing her condolences over the passing of Ottilia's mom, Annette Santiago." But according to the South Bend Tribune's reporting on Sept. 21, 23, and 29, Lennay was already dead.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:59 PM   #1738
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Re: Manti Te'o: rut roh

Cliff Notes:


Original Deadspin.com story

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  • Lenny Kekua is not a real person
  • The photographs identified as Kekua are pictures from the facebook of a California woman who is completely unrelated.
  • Nov. 28, 2009: Te'o and Kekua meet after Stanford's 45-38 victory over Notre Dame in Palo Alto.
  • Brian Te'o (Manti's father)"Every once in a while, she would travel to Hawaii, and that happened to be the time Manti was home, so he would meet with her there."
  • Early 2012: Te'o and Kekua become a couple. They talk on the phone nightly.
  • Some time in 2012: Kekua has a car accident somewhere in California that leaves her "on the brink of death"
  • Sept. 10, 2012: Kekua is released from the hospital; Manti's father, Brian, congratulates her "via telephone"
  • Sept. 12, 2012 (morning): Te'o is informed of his grandmother's passing (Sports Illustrated).
  • Sept. 12, 2012 (afternoon): Te'o is informed of Kekua's passing by her older brother, Koa
  • It was around this time that Te'o's Heisman campaign began in earnest, aided in part by the South Bend Tribune. He appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated's Oct. 1 issue, above the headline, "The Full Manti."
Notre Dame Press Conference

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  • Manti Te'o was the victim of a "very elaborate, very sophisticated hoax with a certain cruelty at its core."
  • The school had known about the hoax Dec. 26.
  • Swarbrick said that he met with Te'o on Dec. 27 and 28 to discuss the hoax, then presented the issue to other Notre Dame officials. Te'o answered questions from those officials, as well.
  • Notre Dame commissioned a private investigation of the matter. The findings of that investigation indicated that a number of individuals were involved in the fraud, and that online chatter among them proved their collusion in perpetrating it. On Jan. 5, he presented the findings of the investigation to the Te'o family and allowed the family to further pursue the matter. Swarbrick said he believed the Te'os planned to release the story next week.
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roses are red
clovers are green
Kekua is dead
without having been

domes are not gold
Lennay had no pigment
Manti was bold
or he fapped to a figment

rosebuds are red
in the pink cheeks of Te'o
god help this thread
if Manti is gayo

Twitter:

-Random dude from California does some digging on twitter and find out apparently people knew Lenney was fake and were talking about it openly online.


-@LennayKay account is reactivated, and promises details at 12:00pst 1/17: http://i.imgur.com/TW6eQ.png

- Then posts this: https://twitter.com/LennayKay/status/291991188607758336

Manti Te'o interview
Here is a link with the interview where he speaks about getting letters after she died, with an update.

Ronaiah Tuiasosopo

With more and more investigations, Ronaiah Tuiasosopo continues to be brought up, and evidence is mounting that he is centrally involved.

Leading Theories

1. Manti Te'o and Rohaiah Tuiasosopo are gay and this was a cover up used by them.
2. Manti Te'o was the victim of a "catfishing" and had no idea his girlfriend was a hoax, but likely embellished the details of their relationship in the media to get attention.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:01 PM   #1739
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

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The Deadspin article said the Twitter account with "Reba's" picture as Lennay was @LoveMSMK, iirc.
The "L K @LennayKay" account has some tweets/retweets from Sep 12 and Nov 6 about LennaKay so it was at least associated with the hoax or in on it back then.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:01 PM   #1740
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

That's the greatest Tweet of all time, imo
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:01 PM   #1741
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Put me sown for a decent amount on #2 in your cliffs LL
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:02 PM   #1742
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

From Darnell Dockett's verified twitter:

"@MTeo_5 bro we all make mistakes, **** it, Mann lets just go to KOD and ill find
u what u looking for. You like midgets got a bad one 4 you."

KOD is King of Diamonds, a strip club.

Okay, that's cool, guy's having a bad time, athlete says I'll take you to a strip clu...wait. Midgets??
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:03 PM   #1743
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Damn, how did we not catch it with September 11th
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:03 PM   #1744
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

Darnell Dockett may be GOAT Twitter athlete.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:04 PM   #1745
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From Darnell Dockett's verified twitter:

"@MTeo_5 bro we all make mistakes, **** it, Mann lets just go to KOD and ill find
u what u looking for. You like midgets got a bad one 4 you."

KOD is King of Diamonds, a strip club.

Okay, that's cool, guy's having a bad time, athlete says I'll take you to a strip clu...wait. Midgets??
Look at Dockett's pics, there is an actual midget stripper lol
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:04 PM   #1746
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cliffs added to OP, thx Larry!

(feel free to PM future updates to that and i/we will add them)
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:04 PM   #1747
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The "L K @LennayKay" account has some tweets/retweets from Sep 12 and Nov 6 about LennaKay so it was at least associated with the hoax or in on it back then.
If you hit the "Retweet" button, the re-tweet contains the timestamp of the original tweet being re-tweeted. It's different from copy-pasting into a new tweet.
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:05 PM   #1748
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Re: Manti Te'o: Epic trolling from imaginary dead people ITT

If we could know with 100% certainty if Manti Te'o was gay or not this might answer a lot of questions.

Although I guess there is a chance he is a total sociopath, but that seems like a stretch.
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Damn, how did we not catch it with September 11th
dontcha just hate when your e-gf, who is born on Valentine's Day, gets in a car accident, then is diagnosed with leukemia, get better (?) and is released from hospital, then dies the next day, along with your grandma, on September 11th?
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:06 PM   #1750
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I've gone from like 99% Te'o was in on it to at least 90% he was the victim with all the little details that keep coming out. The key factor to take note of is that he's a devout Mormon. If it wasn't for that, it would have been 100% ridiculous off the bat, because he'd just be looking to slay poon unless he was gay, but Mormons stick to their religion more than any other denomination popular in the US, and if he really didn't wanna be tempted to have sex, he goes from "last person in the world who would ever get caught up in this" to "almost as susceptible as the Catfish guys" with a lot more people targeting him. Then, once you accept it's possible, all the facts keep pointing toward him not being in on the hoax:

-Te'o going to his family and Notre Dame with the story around Christmas, well before it "broke" via Deadspin. This is the most important factor for me. People pathological enough to make up a lie like this never, ever accept that they're caught. They start to make themselves believe it a little bit, and even in the face of damning evidence, they continue to protest their innocence. There's no way he just gives it up before the BCS championship game without even feeling any pressure.

-The Stanford player saying Te'o asked if people knew her when he played them in 2011. Again, some really elaborate unnecessary groundwork if he hadn't even decided to make this a real story yet.

-Tuiasasopo meeting the random Twitter girl for Lennay's sister. Could still happen if Te'o was in on it, but just seems like a prankster type enjoying their notoriety more than what would happen if it was a conspiracy carefully planned by Te'o to hide homosexuality/build Heisman hype.

-Even the independent investigation launched by Notre Dame. While there are obvious parallels with the coverups within the Catholic Church, there's a huge difference here. The priests were not only ongoing members of the Church, but official representatives, and any untoward behavior by them could do serious damage. Furthermore, the Church had strong reasons to believe that they could actually successfully cover it up (they did so for years and years before being caught). In this case, if Te'o was actually in on a coverup, it's going to come out eventually when NFL teams do their own investigations prior to the draft so it's in their best interest to distance themselves as soon as possible. The fact that they didn't makes me think that they likely believe the story, and their investigation came to the conclusion that he really was a sap here.
No reason to believe the bolded is actually true. If you assume ND and Te'o were in on it (or Te'o was in on it and ND is trying to cover it up) then their actions after it broke make a ton of sense. They claimed they were going to reveal it all this Monday had Deadspin not broke the story. Seems pretty convenient.
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