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Old 01-17-2013, 03:07 PM   #1676
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Re: Manti Te'o: rut roh

Love the way the media are doing lots of digging now, but did zero when they should have.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:07 PM   #1677
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Never easy to believe TMZ but if true the Tuiasosopo family seems a little off.
Yeah, but when they dig and find a basic fact like:

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Jan said she wanted to send flowers -- so Lennay's "sister" gave her an address. TMZ has learned the address belongs to a member of the Tuiasosopo family.

Jan also gave us the phone number Lennay's sister would use to contact her -- and we found out the number is registered to a man named Titus Tuiasosopo -- Ronaiah's father.
"Jan" is either legit or someone who knows Ronaiah is further trolling him, posing as "Jan".

I'm ready for some non-anonymity to present some verifiable fact because -- outside of the Twitter trolls -- Te'o is the only person involved putting his face and name on anything, right?
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:07 PM   #1678
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It's like < 1% that Maui'a is wrong on this. Not only does he know her family and that her dad died recently, he knows her age range, and he knows that she lives in CA. Samoans are a really tight bunch family to family so i'm buying this all day.

I am really curious as to how Maui'a ID'd her tho. He only references her as Kekua in all his quotes, so if we can get some confirmation that Lennay Kekua is her actual name that would work. Or, if Kekua is her first or last name that they used in combination with a fictitious first name of Lennay. Or, if Maui'a is just referencing her as Kekua, but actually protecting her real name.
didnt he say he spoke to her many times on the phone as well .

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"This was before her and Manti," Maui'a said Wednesday evening. "I don't think Manti was even in the picture, but she and I became good friends. We would talk off and on, just checking up on each other kind of thing. I am close to her family. When she was going through the loss of her father, I was — I offered a comforting shoulder and just someone to bounce her emotions off. That was just from meeting her in Samoa."

Maui'a said Tuiasosopo — whom Maui'a believes is Kekua's cousin — introduced the two. After the initial meeting, Maui'a said he met her at an "after-party" for all of the athletes involved in the camp.

"She was tall," he said. "Volleyball-type of physique. She was athletic, tall, beautiful. Long hair. Polynesian. She looked like a model ...
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:08 PM   #1679
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Did I miss the discussion about the fake tears from the ND AD? This is the gift that keeps giving.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:08 PM   #1680
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i doubt it

things that it doesn't explain

-why te'o was wasting his time with fake online chick to begin with
-why te'o had to sex up her death and talk about visiting her in the hospital and stuff

if anything he seems to be the scapegoat for te'o to get out of this mess cleanish
Sorry, that was kinda stream of consciousness. I think that is going to be the strategy at this point:

- Ronaiah takes blame and claims he is the only one responsible
- Te'o is 100% innocent and victim of a hoax
- Ronaiah refuses to cooperate
- Story never has all the questions answered

Obviously the real story could be that Ronaiah and Manti are gay, but it seems like the strategy for max damage control is to have Ronaiah take the hit and try and leave Manti as the victim as much as possible.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:08 PM   #1681
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Collin Klein > Manti Te'o
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:08 PM   #1682
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Re: Manti Te'o: rut roh

yeah at this point Manti has to be Ronaiha's boyfried, or the dumbest idiot to ever walk WHO ALSO is a liar.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:09 PM   #1683
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Who are you including in "they" Larry?
Notre Dame, Manti Te'o, etc.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:10 PM   #1684
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can someone post a link to todays first take?
Here is the audio podcast version. I think ESPN is waiting for later in the day to milk the Youtube views when they upload the video clips. Those are better as they show Stephen A expressions as he talks.


http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=8853521
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:11 PM   #1685
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Story of Te'o comforting a (real) girl with cancer:

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...-cancer-102512

Some cringe-worthy moments:

Te'o wanted to ease their pain. As he said, it eased his pain, too.

Surely, with what he'd been through, Te'o felt a little powerless. He then heard Bridget's story, and maybe he just wanted the feeling that there was something he could do.


My girlfriend, when she was at St. Jude's in LA, she had a little friend,; Te'o said. Her little friend passed away two weeks before my girlfriend passed away. So I've experienced a lot of that . . .


It's unfortunate that I've gone through it, but at the same time, it puts me in a situation where I can help people. I can serve people. I can relate to them. I see life through a whole different set of eyes;



I still constantly pray for Bridget and her family, Te'o said. You know, Bridget's in a better place now. She's with my girlfriend. There'sno better place to be.




If Te'o said those things knowing that Lennay was a hoax, that is some legitimately evil stuff. While I had a bad feeling about his involvement initially, I'm beginning to think the Gullible-OAT explanation to be most likely.

Edit: doing this on my IPad and have no idea why the text is getting mangled. Click the link.

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Old 01-17-2013, 03:12 PM   #1686
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Re: Manti Te'o: rut roh

Larry: idk if all the media will give this up without getting a girl here

yeah the MSM prob will bc they have such integrity and all that, but the new media? i think they'll keep digging here
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:14 PM   #1687
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It's like < 1% that Maui'a is wrong on this. Not only does he know her family and that her dad died recently, he knows her age range, and he knows that she lives in CA. Samoans are a really tight bunch family to family so i'm buying this all day.

I am really curious as to how Maui'a ID'd her tho. He only references her as Kekua in all his quotes, so if we can get some confirmation that Lennay Kekua is her actual name that would work. Or, if Kekua is her first or last name that they used in combination with a fictitious first name of Lennay. Or, if Maui'a is just referencing her as Kekua, but actually protecting her real name.
So if Ronaiah Tuiasosopo is her cousin (as Maui'a says), wouldn't the media be able to figure out she is a real person by now?
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:15 PM   #1688
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Notre Dame is pretty ******ed but it seems like we're stretching to think they are actually engineering a coverup at this point.

PSU tho I guess
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:15 PM   #1689
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:17 PM   #1690
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Larry: idk if all the media will give this up without getting a girl here

yeah the MSM prob will bc they have such integrity and all that, but the new media? i think they'll keep digging here
I guess phone records would be a decent starting point for the new media. That could force Te'o to speak about it, if it is shown that he actually never spoke to someone all that often, or the number is for Ronaiah of all the long calls. Which would be LOL to the max.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:19 PM   #1691
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So Roniaah Tuiasosopo = hoax mastermind, and possibly the only one behind the hoax?
doesn't there have to be a chick involved that manti himself said he would talk on the phone with at night. oh and she had to pretend to have cancer, etc..
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:19 PM   #1692
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can someone post a link to todays first take?
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=8853521
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:20 PM   #1693
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Notre Dame is pretty ******ed but it seems like we're stretching to think they are actually engineering a coverup at this point.

PSU tho I guess
Gene Wojciechowski on ESPN was saying that once Manti told ND about it they started coaching him on how to address it in the media and how to spin his answers to be about moving forward and avoiding the past where he would have to keep talking about it and bringing up more details. This isn't a straight cover-up per say, but I think it speaks to the mentality of handling crises' in general and the preference to spin something vs. tell the truth.
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What motivation is there for a girl to talk to him on the phone for that many years every night? I would've said "f*** this" after like the third night.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:21 PM   #1695
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I want to know who (not really her identity) the girl that they used for the voice on the phone was. She played along with the long con with no real incentive. Unless it turns out money was transferred she basically just talked for hours with this dude. She is probably an uggo.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:21 PM   #1696
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Re: Manti Te'o: rut roh

fwiw i'm currently selling manti = gay and buying manti = sociopath

i suppose both are possible, but you can cover up your gayness without the whole fake death + fall guy drama to boot.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:22 PM   #1697
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-why te'o was wasting his time with fake online chick to begin with
Well because Kenny, not all people are socially gifted enough to pull any girl they want. Maybe if he'd taken your class we wouldn't be here. Also he's a Mormon.

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-why te'o had to sex up her death and talk about visiting her in the hospital and stuff
Because he wanted to make himself look better? Not really a reach at all for him to be a little ashamed even if he's 100% getting duped ("I've never seen this girl, others will think I'm weird") and embellish a bit.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:25 PM   #1698
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I want to know who (not really her identity) the girl that they used for the voice on the phone was. She played along with the long con with no real incentive. Unless it turns out money was transferred she basically just talked for hours with this dude. She is probably an uggo.
imo there is a <1% chance there was a girl involved in this. IF there was, it was incredibly exaggerated to the max because even considering everything that has unfolded so far if there was someone actually spending this much time on the phone in the name of a hoax Te'o should probably be afraid for his life, because that is a sick obsessive amount of time to **** with someone.
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Old 01-17-2013, 03:25 PM   #1699
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What motivation is there for a girl to talk to him on the phone for that many years every night? I would've said "f*** this" after like the third night.
Yeah, anyone I've ever known in a real long distance relationship has been absolutely miserable, and they actually got to get laid every few weekends or when they went home or whatever. A fake long distance relationship really seems like the worst
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Gene Wojciechowski on ESPN was saying that once Manti told ND about it they started coaching him on how to address it in the media and how to spin his answers to be about moving forward and avoiding the past where he would have to keep talking about it and bringing up more details. This isn't a straight cover-up per say, but I think it speaks to the mentality of handling crises' in general and the preference to spin something vs. tell the truth.
Well yeah but there is a pretty huge difference in coaching him how to handle this from the belief that he is the victim, and coaching him how to handle this if you believe he is in on it. One is really scummy and one isn't at all.

Personally I think he has to be involved somehow in this, but I wouldn't be surprised if ND powers truly believe him or whatever. I mean they believed in Charlie weis so anything is possible.
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