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Old 05-06-2013, 06:37 AM   #3526
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Only UM homers grasp the ineptitude of ND prospects. Woulda bet some prime Detroit real estate on Quinn sucking.
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:23 AM   #3527
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

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Yeah, but those just grade how accurately they predicted the draft. I'm interested in seeing how well the players performed once they made it to the NFL. You'd have to use something like PFR's Approximate Value to judge across all positions, but when Mel Kiper's 15th rated prospect is still on the board in the middle of the second round, how well has that guy historically panned out versus his 45th ranked prospect who got drafted in the middle of the first round?
you don't think that's a terrible way of looking at it?

wouldn't it just be easier to go by the grade mel gave a prospect, and then see how close to the grade the prospect performed?

suppose you'd have find to a metric by which to do the grading, but common sense should be enough. maybe even pfr as you mention. but there's so many variables involved you'd probably have to wait several seasons per draft before you could begin to get an accurate outcome.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:10 AM   #3528
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

ND was down to about 7 competent OLinemen leading up to the NCG and the coach decided not to hit in practice much at all. Bama presumably had their allotment of 138 scholarships so that wasn't a problem.

The Teo-Lennae situation aggravated the problem because of his role. He wasn't just out there to tackle, it was like having an extra coach on the field, equal to all the consultants Bama hires that don't techincally count as coaching staff.
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:50 PM   #3529
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

mmmmm i see you're still mad.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:33 PM   #3530
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ND fans should direct their anger towards KState for choking and losing by 28 to a 4-5 Baylor team or at Ohio St for stupidly not taking sanctions for the 2011 season so they might have been eligible to be in the BCS title game. Their screw ups allowed the one loss Bama team to make the title game.

Though let's be real; as flawed and fraudulent as KState and Ohio St were they were still better than Notre Dame.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:32 AM   #3531
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

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Only UM homers grasp the ineptitude of ND prospects. Woulda bet some prime Detroit real estate on Quinn sucking.
Ah now, a ~$100 wager would hardly have been the strongest statement of such an opinion.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:21 PM   #3532
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From Brian Hamilton:

Just sitting down to see reports of former #NotreDame fullback Asaph Schwapp passing away due to lymphoma at age 26.



Edit: Wrong thread from my phone.

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Old 05-08-2013, 04:29 PM   #3533
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In the recent history we've seen a kicker go in the first round and a punter go in the second third, you never know!
why don't kickers specifically punters go higher in the draft? or is there little differentiation? i think of ray guy (and hank ilisec in canada.... reggie roby?) but that was a long time ago.

anyway, if a punter could improve your relative field position by 3-4 yards each kick (in tandem with opponent's punter) i would have thought that's huge. maybe not realistic though

EDIT: wow, had no idea punting averages have gone up so much.

also, has there been any work done as to value of positions now? i realize there is a grid for 10th pick vs. 53rd pick.... but it seems like nfl has been overtaken with the value of QB (obvious), CB, DE, LT (maybe DT, TE and WR in certain cases). little relative value for OG, OC, LB, RB, FB, SS, FS (and as mentioned DT, TE, WR somewhere in the middle. WR is probably most interesting)
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:36 PM   #3534
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

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Just sitting down to see reports of former #NotreDame fullback Asaph Schwapp passing away due to lymphoma at age 26.

Seeing people younger than myself passing away like that is always eye opening.
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:04 PM   #3535
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

http://now.msn.com/manti-teo-girlfri...m-hot-100-list

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But who's that at No. 69? Nobody much. Actually, nobody at all. It's the "girlfriend" of former Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te'o whose life and death both turned out to be a grand hoax
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:20 AM   #3536
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

Teo's signing bonus is reportedly $2.1 million. RUFKM? I don't think a defamation suit would go anywhere.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:33 AM   #3537
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Re: Manti Ruh R'oh - It turns out Tuiasosopo is GOAT voice actor. T'eo still a liar/exaggerator

$2.1M over 4 yrs sounds about right for a 2nd rounder. That means his whole rookie contract is worth around $4-5M right?
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:22 AM   #3538
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MT making good impressions at the Charger rookie camp:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fluker-...5621--nfl.html
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