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Old 01-17-2013, 02:14 AM   #1276
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The thing that bothers me is that this barely extends into the realm of social competence. The story is that they knew each other for THREE YEARS and never once met each other. I mean that's just not even remotely possible for anyone with a central nervous system
Have you watched Catfish? Some people keep these things up for 10 years, stupidly wondering why the person on the other end won't skype with them.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:14 AM   #1277
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I'm hoping that somehow Jeremy Schaap gets Te'o as heated as he got Bobby Fischer
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:14 AM   #1278
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This story's incredibly fascinating, and I can't fully wrap my head around it. Honestly, no explanation really makes sense, be it one with Teo in on it, or one where it's a hoax.
This. Assuming he was a complete victim, isn't it a higher order of evil to have the fake girl die of cancer a day or so after his grandma dies?
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:14 AM   #1279
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They knew each other for four years but didn't try to meet up until a year ago or something.

Can't get over the eight hour phone calls with a cancer patient.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:14 AM   #1280
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Still cannot ****ing understand the Reagan Mauia angle
This times maybe a bajillion
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:15 AM   #1281
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I would be absolutely shocked if at any point they come up with the Leukemia for MORE publicity. Seems it would be way more plausible they were just trying to get rid of the girl before someone caught on.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:15 AM   #1282
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I'm hoping that somehow Jeremy Schaap gets Te'o as heated as he got Bobby Fischer
That was a great moment
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:16 AM   #1283
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you think in early december Teo had some people tweet implying 1. that Teo's gf was a hoax, 2. they were in on it, because he saw this coming?

edit: also, didn't a teammate say that he heard teo talking on the phone and there was a female voice on the other end?
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:16 AM   #1284
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The thing that bothers me is that this barely extends into the realm of social competence. The story is that they knew each other for THREE YEARS and never once met each other. I mean that's just not even remotely possible for anyone with a central nervous system
FWIW, this isn't really that big of a holdup on this. They were only "dating" for a few months, so that could have easily just been a little lie added on by Teo for it to make sense that they met in person at some point. If this story were actually true, it would be that Te'o "met" the girl online in late 2011/early 2012, and then just added some embellishments after the fact so people wouldn't know he had an online-only girlfriend.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:16 AM   #1285
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I think Schaap is one of the most honest and talented reporters espn has. He on air hammering paterno and psu while the rest of espn was still making excuses.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:16 AM   #1286
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This. Assuming he was a complete victim, isn't it a higher order of evil to have the fake girl die of cancer a day or so after his grandma dies?
Death of grandma overshadows death of girlfriend, allows it to be more swept under the rug.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:17 AM   #1287
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This is sort of the theory I'm on too. I think him just being that stupid doesn't make sense, but it can start to make sense if he was gay and basically in the WOAT position for a gay man (mormon, Notre Dame, star football player).

I'm not even sure if he has to be in on it for this to hold. He could have just seen it as a way to escape the pressure and kept going with it.
Exactly. If you look at the timeline and also look for a logical reason how this could all have happened this way? To me it makes the most sense.

Gay
He enters college and doesnt want it known he is gay
Comes up with story explaining why never with a girl
Story gets more and more elaborate, as all lies do
They think "hey, what a great story line for publicity for the Heisman run-my gf has luekimia
His buddy (gay lover) gets in a car accident
Gf gets in car accident
Gf dies-he hopes the initial publicity will push his heisman hopes, he milks it for all its worth, then it dies
Story gets even bigger then he planned
Someone blows the whistle
All hell breaks loose
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:18 AM   #1288
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I think Schaap is one of the most honest and talented reporters espn has. He on air hammering paterno and psu while the rest of espn was still making excuses.
I guess it's not so much that I hate Schaap. It's that he is always the one assigned to the human interest stories that make me sick.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:18 AM   #1289
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Have you watched Catfish? Some people keep these things up for 10 years, stupidly wondering why the person on the other end won't skype with them.
Then I suppose I am finished with humanity

I really don't want to live in a world where the intelligence of the fellow individuals of my species makes events such as this possible
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:18 AM   #1290
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This guy Reagan's just trolling then?
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:18 AM   #1291
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I guess it's not so much that I hate Schaap. It's that he is always the one assigned to the human interest stories that make me sick.
But maybe in this case, it isn't that bad, shrug
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:19 AM   #1292
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The thing that bothers me is that this barely extends into the realm of social competence. The story is that they knew each other for THREE YEARS and never once met each other. I mean that's just not even remotely possible for anyone with a central nervous system
I don't even know what to think. The more that comes out the more confused I am, it really seems like he was getting trolled really hard, maybe the first 1-2 years they didn't talk as much or weren't planning on meeting each other or something. Maybe it was just starting to heat up and he was getting too much publicity so the trolls freaked out.

but the gay theory seems pretty good as well.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:19 AM   #1293
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I'm hoping that somehow Jeremy Schaap gets Te'o as heated as he got Bobby Fischer
Or at least as heated as he got Bobby Knight
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:19 AM   #1294
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Then I suppose I am finished with humanity

I really don't want to live in a world where the intelligence of the fellow individuals of my species makes events such as this possible
Meh.

People desperate for love and acceptance can believe almost anything.

It's obviously not on the same level, but I think back to how completely socially ******ed I was with my first girlfriend/love/break up. It's not that much different if he was truly sheltered before getting to campus.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:20 AM   #1295
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What's the story behind the car crash? Seems unnecessary and strange no matter what angle you take with this.

Could have been the kill scene, but he/they realized a death by a car accident would be really easy to verify/look up?

Why include it at all then? When was it? Maybe he needed time for a test/paper? If he's not in on it maybe it was supposed to be a weekend they would meet? Doesn't make sense.

Also, if you've known someone for 3 years, with at least 6 months being in an exclusive relationship at least to you, and they were about to DIE OF ****ING CANCER there is no way you don't try to meet her finally. Just don't buy it. No explanation. He could have flown to California on the weekend of Sept 29, 2012 as ND was on a bye week. Makes zero sense.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:20 AM   #1296
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did Reagan Mauia supposedly make these comments about "Lennay" today?

don't see a date on his quotes anywhere.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:21 AM   #1297
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you think in early december Teo had some people tweet implying 1. that Teo's gf was a hoax, 2. they were in on it, because he saw this coming?

edit: also, didn't a teammate say that he heard teo talking on the phone and there was a female voice on the other end?
This is also plausible. I mean, the dude had to know there was no way out of this, he's going to the NFL, people are always going to be asking him about it, it's only a matter of time before the story blows up. Maybe he was laying the ground work for the victim of a hoax defense.

I dunno.

Something tells me in another couple of weeks we'll know the full story.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:21 AM   #1298
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ESPN has unleashed Jeremy Schaap on it
They probably would have gotten a better story if they had sent Dick
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:21 AM   #1299
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FWIW, this isn't really that big of a holdup on this. They were only "dating" for a few months, so that could have easily just been a little lie added on by Teo for it to make sense that they met in person at some point. If this story were actually true, it would be that Te'o "met" the girl online in late 2011/early 2012, and then just added some embellishments after the fact so people wouldn't know he had an online-only girlfriend.
Even if this is true, I don't understand why he decided to say they met in 2009. I mean, Notre Dame played at Stanford in 2011; he could have easily said they met in person then, which would have been about six weeks after the first tweet from him to her. (Just say she sent him a DM as a fan or something.)

I dunno, there's just too much **** that doesn't add up if Te'o isn't in on it.
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This. Assuming he was a complete victim, isn't it a higher order of evil to have the fake girl die of cancer a day or so after his grandma dies?
I am hung up on this as well.

It goes into a really bad place when this happens right as his grandma passes. It seems like whoever was trolling him hates him/ is super jealous or something, or he had to be in on it.

Maybe he was emotional when the grandma died and he caused him to want to end the bull**** with the fake gf and have to continue to deal with that.
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