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Old 01-17-2013, 02:32 AM   #1326
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Watch this video. When he looks up he gets confused and is lying. He can't keep his story straight. People lying commonly do this.

Manti Te’o discussed Lannay Kekua in an interview with Notre Dame Athletics on November 13. He told the interviewer he received the last letter from her before the Stanford game on Oct. 13. The game was 31 days after her supposed death on Sept. 12.
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...fter-she-died/
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:33 AM   #1327
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How is this for a timeline and a reason for it all.

Teo is gay. He knows he gay. But he doesn't want to come out gay. In 2009, when Teo was a freshman at Notre Dame, he doesn't want his teammates knowing he is gay. So he and his buddy (who may even be Teo's gay lover) come up with this fake gf story to stave off any questions or rumors about why he is never with a girl. So as time goes by and he keeps getting himself more and more into this lie, it gets more elaborate, he and the buddy come up with this story about the gf getting sick (luekimia) to further his Heisman and NFL draft goals and to get him the fame and publicity he needs to achieve that. A month before the MSU game the buddy gets in this car accident, and that gives Teo the idea to have the girl get in one. Finally the media is blowing the story up, and they feel it may be getting too big, so they come up with the story that the girl died. Who knows, the day the grandmother died may have even given them this idea.

But then the media blows the story up even more, and he just goes with it. Burying himself even further until it finally comes out around Christmas.

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On the radio they came up with something similar to this.

Except the fake girlfriend was only for his parents to know about, so they wouldn't question his sexuality. When they wanted to meet her, he made up the story about the leukemia so she didn't come to Hawaii.

When they all flew to the USA and were gonna meet her, he "killed" her off before they got a chance to figure it out.

His family was the ones that leaked all this to the media in the first place, and he just rolled with it, hoping it would blow over.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:34 AM   #1328
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Re: Manti Te'o: rut roh

All of you saying "there's no chance he could be this stupid/socially unaware" really need to watch the MTV show.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:34 AM   #1329
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Sooooo, he's so Gump that he fell for this hoax conducted by a boyhood buddy for 3-4 years that included nightly phone convos and repeatedly getting stood up, but cynical enough to lie about them meeting many times in Hawaii.

Yeah, I'm sticking to my "make people not think I'm gay" theory.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:34 AM   #1330
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Maybe he's saving himself for marriage, and didn't want the temptation of an every day GF, so he thought an online, long-distance GF was perfect...and he didn't press her to meet.

I don't know, it's all I've got.
This seems reasonable. When I was at Cal, there were a few Mormon Hawaiians on the football team and they drank and parties along with the other football players. I would guess the peer pressure was probably intense the whole time they were there.

The fake gf might have been an excuse to allow him to duck out of this kind of stuff.

But then again, the killing her off part makes no sense as well as telling the family about it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:35 AM   #1331
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Re: Manti Te'o: rut roh

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Old 01-17-2013, 02:35 AM   #1332
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That was one of the more interesting theories I heard, from a mental health professional even: Manti had trouble dealing with the death of his grandmother and needed more attention/sympathy/whatever to help cope, so he fabricated the death of his fake girlfriend in order to gain even more sympathy, which helped him cope.

I'm no psychiatrist or anything but it's an interesting theory
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:36 AM   #1333
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So if he's not in on it likely means 'Sopo is gay and was in love with Te'o. He was okay spending the hours on the phone to keep the hoax alive because he genuinely loved the conversation and company.

He realized that once Te'o finished up at ND there was no way to keep it going. He'd have money and the means to travel anywhere in the world to see the love of his life. He has to end it somehow and wanted a clean break. No calls trying to rekindle from Te'o or anything like that. Had to just kill the "girl".

Seems plausible, but my gut is he was in on it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:36 AM   #1334
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On the radio they came up with something similar to this.

Except the fake girlfriend was only for his parents to know about, so they wouldn't question his sexuality. When they wanted to meet her, he made up the story about the leukemia so she didn't come to Hawaii.

When they all flew to the USA and were gonna meet her, he "killed" her off before they got a chance to figure it out.

His family was the ones that leaked all this to the media in the first place, and he just rolled with it, hoping it would blow over.
I'd believe this and all, but wouldn't the family want to send flowers for the funeral and everything. Or even attend the funeral if GAYO couldn't. Or send a card to her mother and father.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:36 AM   #1335
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Deadspin talks about the friend belonging to a family of athletes with cousins and such in the nfl and having a decent start to high school as a qb before fading away. He was also the son of a preacher. It wouldn't be too difficult to believe he did all of just because.

People are waaaaay over estimating how dumb you'd have to be to fall for this. It said the friend had already used the girl as a fake, and a cardinals player believes she existed as well under the alias. As long as there was a real female talking to him on the phone, the rest could easily play out.

Article also mentioned that he and his father thought she was doing well, so he didn't necessarily have to think she was days from death as people are implying.

My last beef with this is the question of why the fake chick couldn't just break things off with him. Is dying really necessary?
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:36 AM   #1336
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:37 AM   #1337
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Watch this video. When he looks up he gets confused and is lying. He can't keep his story straight. People lying commonly do this.

Manti Teo discussed Lannay Kekua in an interview with Notre Dame Athletics on November 13. He told the interviewer he received the last letter from her before the Stanford game on Oct. 13. The game was 31 days after her supposed death on Sept. 12.
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...fter-she-died/
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:37 AM   #1338
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Watch this video. When he looks up he gets confused and is lying. He can't keep his story straight. People lying commonly do this.

Manti Teo discussed Lannay Kekua in an interview with Notre Dame Athletics on November 13. He told the interviewer he received the last letter from her before the Stanford game on Oct. 13. The game was 31 days after her supposed death on Sept. 12.
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...fter-she-died/
Famous saying of course, but the biggest key to being an effective liar is having a good memory.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:38 AM   #1339
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Watch this video. When he looks up he gets confused and is lying. He can't keep his story straight. People lying commonly do this.

Manti Teo discussed Lannay Kekua in an interview with Notre Dame Athletics on November 13. He told the interviewer he received the last letter from her before the Stanford game on Oct. 13. The game was 31 days after her supposed death on Sept. 12.
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...fter-she-died/
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:38 AM   #1340
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Why the **** would a top-grade college football player have, let alone create an online girlfriend? The guy could **** any girl in Notre Dame at any time.

Gotta be gay. Props to the Keyzer Soze-esque scheme set up by the fake girlfriend though.
Seems like a lot of people itt don't know many Mormons.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:40 AM   #1341
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On the radio they came up with something similar to this.

Except the fake girlfriend was only for his parents to know about, so they wouldn't question his sexuality. When they wanted to meet her, he made up the story about the leukemia so she didn't come to Hawaii.

When they all flew to the USA and were gonna meet her, he "killed" her off before they got a chance to figure it out.

His family was the ones that leaked all this to the media in the first place, and he just rolled with it, hoping it would blow over.
Isn't it easier to get in a fight/break up with fake gf than faking her death?

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Old 01-17-2013, 02:40 AM   #1342
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But then again, the killing her off part makes no sense as well as telling the family about it.
Uh, he tells the family about it because they might want to know why he's not dating and/or if he's gay, beyond being at a Catholic school, he's in a Mormon and Samoan family, where I understand it homosexuality is frowned upon.

And he kills her off because he was going to have to produce a real live woman soon when they came to visit.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:41 AM   #1343
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Watch this video. When he looks up he gets confused and is lying. He can't keep his story straight. People lying commonly do this.

Manti Te’o discussed Lannay Kekua in an interview with Notre Dame Athletics on November 13. He told the interviewer he received the last letter from her before the Stanford game on Oct. 13. The game was 31 days after her supposed death on Sept. 12.
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...fter-she-died/
I knew the Postal Service was having budget cutbacks, but a 31 day delay is ridiculous!
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:41 AM   #1344
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Sooooo, he's so Gump that he fell for this hoax conducted by a boyhood buddy for 3-4 years that included nightly phone convos and repeatedly getting stood up, but cynical enough to lie about them meeting many times in Hawaii.

Yeah, I'm sticking to my "make people not think I'm gay" theory.
And this isn't brag-lying to some buddies. We're talking about ESPN and CBS features.

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On the radio they came up with something similar to this.

Except the fake girlfriend was only for his parents to know about, so they wouldn't question his sexuality. When they wanted to meet her, he made up the story about the leukemia so she didn't come to Hawaii.

When they all flew to the USA and were gonna meet her, he "killed" her off before they got a chance to figure it out.

His family was the ones that leaked all this to the media in the first place, and he just rolled with it, hoping it would blow over.
Now, this is a logically consistent story with the facts we know.

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All of you saying "there's no chance he could be this stupid/socially unaware" really need to watch the MTV show.
Then, he wouldn't repeatedly talk about meeting with someone so many times that repeatedly stood him up on national TV. He'd change the subject out of shame and not volunteer so many details of the emotions stirred in these face-to-face meetings.

May or may not be gay. May have just been a cover for remaining a virgin that went too far to avoid **** speculation, but Te'o didn't discover much on Dec. 26.

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Watch this video. When he looks up he gets confused and is lying. He can't keep his story straight. People lying commonly do this.

Manti Teo discussed Lannay Kekua in an interview with Notre Dame Athletics on November 13. He told the interviewer he received the last letter from her before the Stanford game on Oct. 13. The game was 31 days after her supposed death on Sept. 12.
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...fter-she-died/
Seriously, everyone needs to watch this, very damning, not only the time line inconsistency but the body language.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:42 AM   #1346
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So...Rons video is How He Loves...not that i'm familiar with that song but uh..
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:42 AM   #1347
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So if he's not in on it likely means 'Sopo is gay and was in love with Te'o. He was okay spending the hours on the phone to keep the hoax alive because he genuinely loved the conversation and company.

He realized that once Te'o finished up at ND there was no way to keep it going. He'd have money and the means to travel anywhere in the world to see the love of his life. He has to end it somehow and wanted a clean break. No calls trying to rekindle from Te'o or anything like that. Had to just kill the "girl".

Seems plausible, but my gut is he was in on it.
Yeah, I think he was in on it, but if not then your theory is a strong one. Being heavily involved in religious affairs is another good cover for not having a girlfriend in a society that frowns on homosexuality.
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So how did he act like a girl on the phone? This has probably been answered....
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:44 AM   #1349
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Isn't it easier to get in a fight/break up with fake gf than faking her death?

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Old 01-17-2013, 02:44 AM   #1350
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Watch this video. When he looks up he gets confused and is lying. He can't keep his story straight. People lying commonly do this.

Manti Te’o discussed Lannay Kekua in an interview with Notre Dame Athletics on November 13. He told the interviewer he received the last letter from her before the Stanford game on Oct. 13. The game was 31 days after her supposed death on Sept. 12.
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/...fter-she-died/
I don't get why that's suspicious, he says she wrote letters prior to games, as if she'd write them well before and send them so they got there on time. (Odd she'd stop with the Stanford game, but not overly so).

Edit: More specifically, he says it's "kind of creepy". Writing letters to a friend prior to their games isn't creepy, but writing them and delaying their being sent so they arrive later would definitely be considered creepy if that person died with letters yet to be delivered.
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