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03-08-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sylar
The CIA has a capability to spy if and only when they get a warrant. That's existed for awhile.
Whether they have authorization to spy is independent of whether they have the capability to spy. Many people reasonably doubt that they worry in excess about authorizations.
03-08-2017 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
If you didn't know the US Government was watching your every move before today you are a moron
Unless they care a lot more than would be reasonable about degenerate hooker chasing drug using poker losers, most posters here don't have to worry about being spied on. It's not like they'll tell your girlfriend. Stay out of politics and you'll be fine.
03-08-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Anyone else muse about the idea that Russia has stuff on Assange? If you go back to the very beginnings of Wikileaks almost everything they have done has served Putin/Russia interests on the world stage.
My attention is caught by the remarkable lack of leaks from Russia. Maybe the polonium milkshakes are a solid HR policy.

Last edited by davmcg; 03-08-2017 at 03:08 PM. Reason: In Soviet Russia the whistle blows you.
03-08-2017 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
Obama Livid Over Trump Tweets

Gotta say, kind of naive of Obama to think he could be nice to Trump and help in the transition as much as he thought he should and not expect Trump to talk **** whenever he deems it politically expedient. What the **** did he think was going to happen? Trump would magically become Presidential and respectful? Come on, bro.
The reason Obama had to be nice to Trump is that the peaceful transition of power norm is going to be tested when it's time for Trump to go.
03-08-2017 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Anyone else muse about the idea that Russia has stuff on Assange? If you go back to the very beginnings of Wikileaks almost everything they have done has served Putin/Russia interests on the world stage.
No, just many things they have done did damage the USA, which automatically serves Russia. But lets not shoot the messenger here. America being a scumbag towards the rest of the world while hypocritically upholding values they themselves don't give a **** about is on themselves.
03-08-2017 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by florentinopeces
Unless they care a lot more than would be reasonable about degenerate hooker chasing drug using poker losers, most posters here don't have to worry about being spied on. It's not like they'll tell your girlfriend. Stay out of politics and you'll be fine.
If getting involved in politics makes you a target of the state you live in a fascist state.
03-08-2017 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
If getting involved in politics makes you a target of the state you live in a fascist state.
I agree.


https://twitter.com/mckaycoppins/sta...34503635304448
03-08-2017 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by florentinopeces
Whether they have authorization to spy is independent of whether they have the capability to spy. Many people reasonably doubt that they worry in excess about authorizations.
I am talking about the legal capability. I also have the technical capability of embedding a wifi gadget capable to "spying". The issue of reasonable oversight of the CIA powers falls on the courts. Are you saying the CIA is skirting the courts?
03-08-2017 , 04:45 PM
I have family that work in the CIA. They laugh when people ask if the CIA is spying on them. It's a big joke at Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Basically, you are not important. You are not some special snowflake where Joe from accounting is wondering why your bank account is overdrawn.

IF they wanted to spy on you? Sure. But no one gives a **** what the random American does on a daily basis.
03-08-2017 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman


https://mobile.twitter.com/oreillyfa...25353957769216
Not feelin that take. That's not what "unruly" looks like. This is what "unruly" looks like.

03-08-2017 , 04:55 PM
Leaks are good except when it's classified information. okay then
03-08-2017 , 04:57 PM
Hacking a car for assassinations? To turn and accelerate with out the driver initiating it? Michael Hastings anyone?
03-08-2017 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
I have family that work in the CIA. They laugh when people ask if the CIA is spying on them. It's a big joke at Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Basically, you are not important. You are not some special snowflake where Joe from accounting is wondering why your bank account is overdrawn.

IF they wanted to spy on you? Sure. But no one gives a **** what the random American does on a daily basis.
Hmmm. Can't fathom a way this power could be used against political enemies, or even just to chill political discourse by targeting a few random prolific anti-Trump social media posters. NOPE - can't think of a thing.
03-08-2017 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
how is it that Oreilly can't manage to capture more than 4 frames per second?
He uses a brownie
03-08-2017 , 05:19 PM
obv those corruption fears were totes overblown

03-08-2017 , 05:20 PM
ok good job clickhole, you made me laugh

03-08-2017 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
No, just many things they have done did damage the USA, which automatically serves Russia. But lets not shoot the messenger here. America being a scumbag towards the rest of the world while hypocritically upholding values they themselves don't give a **** about is on themselves.
I was never a fan of Wikileaks or Assange but giving him the title of messenger in 2017 is wholly off base. He has been completely biased and agenda driven for a while and any good will he might have accrued initially has long gone away. He became an undisciplined partisan hack devoid of due diligence.

Put me in the group who has never been shocked spy agencies spy. This includes the original NSA stuff (which uncovered real issues of overstepping that were big but also got people up in arms about things that are a part of their legal charter). With the CIA stuff we don't even have that. All we learned Id the CIA is supposedly really really good at spying and hacking. Which is a good thing. The question is what did they do that was wrong. Being able to crack encryptions and hack computer devices and tvs to spy on people are not wrongdoing in and of themselves. The CIA is supposed to be an agency that is charged with protecting us from and keeping an eye on foreign countries and actors. I hope every single device the Russians in government use in the Kremlin have been hacked. Same goes for Iran and others.
03-08-2017 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
ok good job clickhole, you made me laugh

Lolol
03-08-2017 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman


https://mobile.twitter.com/oreillyfa...25353957769216
"press conference" = photo op of two men shaking hands while not speaking a word or answering any questions
03-08-2017 , 06:57 PM
It is funny that our Secretary of State, the job supposedly predicted on communication and diplomacy, hasn't taken a single question yet.
03-08-2017 , 07:24 PM
Funny like terminal ass cancer
03-08-2017 , 08:06 PM
WikiLeaks/Russia......

I seem to remember Rudy Giuliani , in a speech, during the campaign , showing his hand that he hand pre-knowledge of an upcoming leak, cant seem to find the link to video...


any help appreciated
03-08-2017 , 08:13 PM
So, nobody still wants to discuss how religion might be the root of all these problems, huh?

Surprised at you, einbert - being a crypto-commie, thought you'd be all over it (admittedly though, I agree with pretty much all of your more moderate stances).

Let's just ignore the elephant in the room then. We'll just "tolerate" those irrational beliefs as long as they have a feel-good name like "religion". Then, when the same people have new irrational beliefs we don't like, we'll shout "how could you vote Trump!? He is an orange buffoon!"

Yep, nothing to see here folks, let's move on. Religion is fine, but Trump is a travesty.
03-08-2017 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Reality
WikiLeaks/Russia......

I seem to remember Rudy Giuliani , in a speech, during the campaign , showing his hand that he hand pre-knowledge of an upcoming leak, cant seem to find the link to video...


any help appreciated
Maybe you are thinking of when he indicated that he/Trump campaign had advanced notice of the Comey letter from FBI sources? Don't think he's been connected to wikileaks.

http://www.salon.com/2016/11/04/rudy...comeys-letter/
03-08-2017 , 08:17 PM
This probably starting at 2:15:

ETA: I guess this wasn't Wikileaks, but likely Comey so not sure.

      
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