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I said it wasn't logic. It's about values, not logic.

Undocumented people are of course welcome in my home. None are living here currently, just my immediate family, but I did have a housemate who was undocumented at one point.

03-04-2017 , 03:16 PM

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You proved my point donkey. The smaller states should have a larger influence or they would get pounded by the larger states election after election. You proved my point donkey.

PURE LOGIC - like a sandblaster it is.

States are not people. This would be a much bigger deal if states were more like individual countries - like in the early days of the US. Now the effect is basically that rural voters, and voters who happen to live in swing states, get much more influence over the presidential election than anyone else.

03-04-2017 , 03:16 PM

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Good talk folks. See ya tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by truefish

You proved my point donkey. The smaller states should have a larger influence or they would get pounded by the larger states election after election. You proved my point donkey.

You're not very trustworthy are you?

03-04-2017 , 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by truefish

You proved my point donkey. The smaller states should have a larger influence or they would get pounded by the larger states election after election. You proved my point donkey.

Why it's almost like if you are a minority, your concerns don't matter and who cares if you vote anyway.

03-04-2017 , 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by truefish

No they debate using emotion not logic.

Irony looks like this.

03-04-2017 , 03:20 PM

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You are doing important social work suzzer. Can we make it into a convenient gif with which to reply?

03-04-2017 , 03:21 PM

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Why it's almost like if you are a minority, your concerns don't matter and who cares if you vote anyway.

They just hate democracy, that's all. It's really simple when you drill it down.

03-04-2017 , 03:24 PM

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You are doing important social work suzzer. Can we make it into a convenient gif with which to reply?

You mean like a gif that cycles through each section?

03-04-2017 , 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Overstaying a visa is not a crime, by the way. "Illegal immigrant" is literally Orwellian newspeak, it's the dang PC police making us call something it's not for purely partisan reasons.

trufish over here is talking back and y'all are forgetting that none of these people have any ****ing idea what they are talking about, ever, because they literally reject the concept of learning.

Overstaying a visa is breaking the law. It is an unlawful act.

And the correct terminology is illegal alien, not illegal immigrant.

03-04-2017 , 03:25 PM

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A WILD SUSHY APPEARS

03-04-2017 , 03:30 PM

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You mean like a gif that cycles through each section?

That's a good idea. Or perhaps also a gif with a checklist of each tactic without the description paragraph.

03-04-2017 , 03:32 PM

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Overstaying a visa is breaking the law. It is an unlawful act.

He said it wasn't a crime.

03-04-2017 , 03:35 PM

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Deporting criminal illegals is logical.

Hmm, let's see on the one hand we have:

- $20 billion on border wall
- $5-10 billion on arrests and detention
- $1 billion on processing (hearings etc)
- $100 million+ on physical deportation

Which, coupled with the Trump administration's fervent deportation pace would effectively remove all of the illegals from the USA by probably 2124.

Or on the other side, legalize the illegals and give them a path to citizenship:

- 19c in toner to rewrite immigration laws.

Yes very logical

03-04-2017 , 03:35 PM

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Lol and here we go.

1. Deport all the criminals. Deal with the rest on a case by case basis
2. Anyone here illegally is defined as a criminal.
3. Good day sir!

03-04-2017 , 03:36 PM

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That's a good idea. Or perhaps also a gif with a checklist of each tactic without the description paragraph.

Needs the description imo.

03-04-2017 , 03:36 PM

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Lol and here we go.

1. Deport all the criminals. Deal with the rest on a case by case basis
2. Anyone here illegally is defined as a criminal.
3. Good day sir!

I'm having CityData flashbacks.

03-04-2017 , 03:49 PM

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Thread:

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/sta...09113754271745

03-04-2017 , 04:03 PM

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Oh baby don't get all excited. Is Pence immune to this Russian stuff? Seems if they all go down he might be too close to the Orange Ween to go unscathed.

if espionage is found will any of them do jail time? Who would you most like to see behind bars?

In regards to Pence I don't think he is likely involved in the Russia stuff at all.

In terms of impeaching Trump and Pence taking over the chicken republicans know that impeachment guarantees they lose the whitehouse in 2020. So they won't do the right thing.

03-04-2017 , 04:07 PM

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Near certain that Pence is in cahoots with all this.

Maybe so I just always felt like he was an add-on that was something required but not desired. But being the only one person with any experience in every room probably does mean he knows about it all.

03-04-2017 , 04:09 PM

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President Obama denies having anything to do with any hypothetical wiretap on Trump. If it happened, and we don't know that it did, it didn't have anything to do with Obama, because presidents don't rightly have a say in that kind of thing (although, significantly, Trump imagines that they do, which perhaps tells you the kind of thing that Trump may get up to). It just seems to be something that the under-informed Trump heard from Breitbart or directly from Steve Bannon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39168149

03-04-2017 , 04:10 PM

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just the best people....

Al-Qaeda likes Steve Bannon so much, they put him on the cover of their official newspaper

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.8a79968aba47

wapo is just a rabid animal right now. Mark my words, they will be the paper to break trump gate within 90 days

The second craziest thing in that article is Bannon once gave a speech to the Vatican via skype.

03-04-2017 , 04:13 PM

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Right. We gotta remember that there are two separate issues here:

Was there a wiretrap on Trump? Possibly.

Was it ordered by Obama? Definitely not.

03-04-2017 , 04:14 PM

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if someone on the US side is going to leak 100% damning evidence (such as audio clearly implicating them in the election tampering), why would they not bring it forward immediately? maybe someone knows a reason. without thinking too much, i would expect it to only be drawn out if it comes from a russian source since their aim is to destabilize and discredit us.

Most likely reason is they are waiting and praying congress and others actually do their job and it can all come about officially.

People think this is some conspiracy by beuracrats but it clearly comes with a heavy heart and a lifetime of government service which has them giving the first, second and third chance to the whitehouse and congress. This is their government and they are likely in more disbelief than any of us. But it would certainly not be easy to do.

03-04-2017 , 04:16 PM

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Somebody is going to cut a deal soon. These privileged rich white men are terrified right now and they don't want to end up in an actual prison cell. Somebody is gonna sing like a bird.