this is way wrong. the racists never went away, they were just ashamed and knew to keep quiet. They were emboldened by birtherism, trumpism, etc. THey're not "upticking" (absolute numbers are probably declining), they're just more overt.

Different reactions to Trump's Charlottesville comments from different parts of his cabinet!

New Chief of Staff John Kelly is already frustrated two weeks in

And on the other side, there's, who else, Ben Carson:

Ford Jr. came really close to winning that seat in 2006. It was a nail-biter.

I think you guys expect a bit too much from people, unless you are trying to restrict "good" to the top 10% of people or whatever.

The above (not racist themselves, good husband/father) is about as much as you can expect out of the vast majority of people anywhere. Asking for more from most is just asking for a fundamental change of human nature.

You've got to grade the "good" on the curve of actual humans. Assuming "good" just means above average, and not elite, the people described in that post are "good" people.

I would like to see this impulse of Clovis' unpacked. It's hardly unique.

The assumption that most people are not racist?

The assumption that the authorities are doing the smart and correct thing already?

The assumption that activists are out of line?

Clovis is not a racist or a fascist. He's got conservative impulses, but nothing extreme. He's a committed centrist liberal. Maybe centrists just hit the brakes really quickly because they presume everyone else is getting carried away?

As an aside, there's an interesting bunch of Nazi victim monuments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolperstein (stumbling stone)

They are little monuments on the streets or sidewalks with the names of victims. Some of them are raised slightly so that you may literally trip on them.

Yeah everybody knew that literally since it was created ffs

If just one person got the reference then it was all worth it.

My pony is arbitrary and useless.

By the time Trump is done, will the Overton Window have shifted so much that "racist" isn't always seen as a negative term - publicly worn as a badge of pride by a subset of his base? You will know this happening when Hannity and Carlson are delivering screeds debating the meaning of the word "racist" and is it really wrong to be proud of one's heritage.

Er let me rephrase that - assuming Trump stays in office - what's the O/U on this happening?

Was browsing Reddit /all, and one of the top posts from r/conservative which is obviously super pro Trump



But the top reply was

In fact most of the top replies in the thread are talking about how stupid the picture is and how putting the statues in a museum is appropriate. This is a very pro trump subreddit, so it gives me a lil hope in regards to the more reasonable Republican supporters distancing themselves from this nonsense.

2nd top comment

thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservativ...correct_again/

Yeah, we know! "Because liberal tears" is the entirety of conservatism in the Trump era, it's good to see you people start admitting it.

The corollary, of course, is that it makes leftists happy when the statues come down, and Trump's comments have hastened that process because he's too stupid to realize when he's saying something harmful to his own goals. So much winning!!

What baffles me about the white supremacy thing is this: even if you were a white supremacist, I'd think you would want somewhat competent leadership? Like, voting in the complete buffoon who agrees with you still seems -EV overall. If I were a white supremacist, I'd still have voted for Hillary.

Lol I doubt that.

Possible, I guess. I mean Baron might not be human garbage now but the odds are certainly in favor of him trending in that direction.

People with stupid illogical beliefs acting illogically. Who would have ever thought.

Repeating my own pun, Charlottesville is the tipping point for these statues. Monuments are coming down all over the country because of these Nazi bastards. Huge losers. Maybe it will be a tipping point for Trump as well.

Bush's presidency was preferable to this because the vast majority of the suffering Bush caused was overseas. And also because the downside was far more limited.

Also the Trumps are probably one of the single greatest arguments against capitalism in the history of man.

Problem is the alt-right really doesn't give a **** about the actual statues. Like 0% pain from seeing one come down. Only the dip**** inbred southern racists actually care about that stuff.

The Bush daughters seem OK though, unlike the horrible Trump kids.

Yes.

Nice.

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