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Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

04-16-2011 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by PositiveAttitude
It seems as though online poker will be unavailable to Americans for a while.

Let's use this time to take stock of our lives, and enjoy each day one at a time. We're not going to live forever.

With every "bad" thing that happens to us, let's think: "How can this benefit me?" I took a walk today, and listened to the birds chirping and felt the sun on my face.

Now, I welcome all of you to follow my lead. And I will dispense more wisdom as the need arises.
I guess it will be easy to spot US poker grinders in public over the next few months. Pasty faced from losing all pigment in the skin, almost-blind from sitting in darkened rooms for days on end (amongst other things) and their index fingers twitching involuntarily as if clicking an imaginary mouse.
04-16-2011 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by -Insert Witty SN-
ok, but then you're are relying on the competency/funding/execution of the regulators of whom pokerstars is a major source of business
The regulators are the Isle of Man government, the only government I know of that lets business and money decide policy is the US so that shouldn't be an issue.
04-16-2011 , 08:24 PM
quadjacks was cool for doing their endless broadcast but repeating stupid conspiracy theories and now this stupid spoof is just dumb

not funny
04-16-2011 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Barnfather
I guess it will be easy to spot US poker grinders in public over the next few months. Pasty faced from losing all pigment in the skin, almost-blind from sitting in darkened rooms for days on end (amongst other things) and their index fingers twitching involuntarily as if clicking an imaginary mouse.
lol good one
04-16-2011 , 08:28 PM
Anybody else trying to register for the $250 Freeroll on FTP for Americans only in about 36 minutes?
04-16-2011 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by iminurhead
now i cant use my ticket to the wombat mulligan tommorow
Maybe they will switch to a different server soon. I have a wombat mulligan also.
04-16-2011 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by -Insert Witty SN-
ok, but then you're are relying on the competency/funding/execution of the regulators of whom pokerstars is a major source of business
Sure - but the IOM legal system is pretty solid - very much based on UK law (and I have litigated in the IOM in the past). I also act for a major international bank with it's HQ over there.

It isn't a Mickey Mouse jurisdiction like some of the Caribbean islands or (if you remember Tusk) Vanuatu.

I also know some of the top gaming lawyers in London and Gibraltar (which is similar to the IOM in many respects and where a lot of the UK B&M betting shops have their online rooms). They take their clients' compliance with these sorts of Regs. very seriously - anything is possible of course, but nothing has suggested that Stars are mixing funds to this point.
04-16-2011 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ShamWow
Anybody else trying to register for the $250 Freeroll on FTP for Americans only in about 36 minutes?
How do I find that?
04-16-2011 , 08:29 PM
Men named in poker indictment already tied to Las Vegas fraud case

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2011/04/16/5449932.htm

Apr 15, 2011 (Las Vegas Sun - McClatchy-Tribune Information Services via COMTEX) --

Two of the men arrested in today's national Internet poker crackdown are already tied to a massive fraud case being prosecuted by the Federal Trade Commission in Las Vegas.

Las Vegas businessman Chad Elie, who was arrested today, had earlier sued St. George, Utah, businessman Jeremy Johnson, who authorities claim was the mastermind behind a fraudulent $275 million Internet billing scheme. Johnson is the focus of the FTC lawsuit in Las Vegas.

Elie, who has a Las Vegas company called 21Debit, is accused in indictments today of, along with others, approaching John Campos, vice chairman of SunFirst Bank in St. George, Utah., about processing Internet poker transactions.

SunFirst Bank is a creditor of Johnson's in the FTC case.

"While expressing 'trepidations,' Campos allegedly agreed to process gambling transactions in return for a $10 million investment in SunFirst by Elie and an associate, which would give them a more than 30 percent ownership stake in the bank. Campos also requested and received a $20,000 'bonus' for his assistance," said a statement today from the U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan. Campos was among those arrested and indicted today.

In his lawsuit against Johnson, Elie claimed he was due $20 million from Johnson and codefendants after Johnson told him he had a trusted relationship with SunFirst and that, in exchange for an investment, Elie could begin processing payments for his "online merchants" through SunFirst. That lawsuit was dropped for undisclosed reasons last month.

The bank, in the meantime, had been hit with an enforcement order from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. related to its processing of transactions for Johnson.

Johnson was not named in today's criminal indictments.

However, in court papers he's said he not only played poker extensively on sites operated by some of the defendants in today's indictments -- Full Tilt Poker and PokerStars -- but that his companies had merchant account arrangements with online poker companies including Full Tilt and that he used some of the poker companies' funds for investments.

In today's indictments, Elie, Campos and others are charged with conspiracy to violate the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act and other counts. Elie faces a count of conspiracy to commit bank fraud and wire fraud while both he and Campos face a charge of money laundering-conspiracy.

This isn't Elie's first encounter with law enforcement.

Elie said in his Utah lawsuit that besides running his Las Vegas company, he is the CEO of Florida company Viable Marketing Corp.

Records in Florida show Viable Marketing was named in a Feb. 17, 2010, statement from Florida's Attorney General and the FTC as one of several companies that received subpoenas investigating potential violations of Florida's Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act.

The Viable Marketing subpoena related to "unauthorized recurring charges" associated with a work-at-home Internet business opportunity, the statement said

An attorney for Elie couldn't immediately be located for comment on today's indictments, which focused on major online poker operators PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker.

The main FTC case against Johnson and his companies, filed Dec. 20 in Las Vegas, remains active with the defendants last month updating their denials of allegations of wrongdoing.

The defendants said they had in good faith tried to comply with FTC marketing guidelines -- assertions denied by the FTC.

The FTC says Johnson and his companies scammed consumers out of $275 million by luring them into obtaining trial memberships for bogus services and then repeatedly charging their credit and debit cards monthly fees for the worthless services.

To see more of the Las Vegas Sun go to http://www.lasvegassun.com Copyright (c) 2011, Las Vegas Sun Distributed by McClatchy-Tribune Information Services. For more information about the content services offered by McClatchy-Tribune Information Services (MCT), visit www.mctinfoservices.com.
04-16-2011 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hamonrye
How do I find that?
Tournament ID: 232698136, 658 people are in it, but it wont let me register
04-16-2011 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ShamWow
Tournament ID: 232698136, 658 people are in it, but it wont let me register
I'm playing cash table, but the damn registration link goes to the website, which is totally screwed. Nice angle though as a thought.
04-16-2011 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by beloved_ltd
The regulators are the Isle of Man government, the only government I know of that lets business and money decide policy is the US so that shouldn't be an issue.
sarcasm?
04-16-2011 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by excession
Sure - but the IOM legal system is pretty solid - very much based on UK law (and I have litigated in the IOM in the past). I also act for a major international bank with it's HQ over there.

It isn't a Mickey Mouse jurisdiction like some of the Caribbean islands or (if you remember Tusk) Vanuatu.

I also know some of the top gaming lawyers in London and Gibraltar (which is similar to the IOM in many respects and where a lot of the UK B&M betting shops have their online rooms). They take their clients' compliance with these sorts of Regs. very seriously - anything is possible of course, but nothing has suggested that Stars are mixing funds to this point.
well you've certainly convinced me. good to see some expertise itt
04-16-2011 , 08:36 PM
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/tech...416-1ditj.html


AUSTRALIAN internet whiz Daniel Tzvetkoff, who has become a prized FBI informant in a bid to avoid a 75-year jail sentence in the US, may have brought down the multibillion-dollar American online poker industry.



lol wtf
04-16-2011 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BakedGoods
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/tech...416-1ditj.html


AUSTRALIAN internet whiz Daniel Tzvetkoff, who has become a prized FBI informant in a bid to avoid a 75-year jail sentence in the US, may have brought down the multibillion-dollar American online poker industry.



lol wtf
O rly?
04-16-2011 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BakedGoods
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/tech...416-1ditj.html


AUSTRALIAN internet whiz Daniel Tzvetkoff, who has become a prized FBI informant in a bid to avoid a 75-year jail sentence in the US, may have brought down the multibillion-dollar American online poker industry.



lol wtf
[x] new information
04-16-2011 , 08:40 PM
ARe there any well know pro's that may face some jail time? Please someone say Howard Ledered. LOL
04-16-2011 , 08:43 PM
Mike Sexton and Tony G look pretty baller right now having signed with PartyPoker over FT/PS.
04-16-2011 , 08:43 PM
Link to re download FTP for us customers, the uk link or whatever. I cant get on my account the update wont load. I uninstall and reinstall on the Uk link right? Anyone have the link?
04-16-2011 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by walkmyline
Link to re download FTP for us customers, the uk link or whatever. I cant get on my account the update wont load. I uninstall and reinstall on the Uk link right? Anyone have the link?
omg google is so hard but i managed to just not use it at all and guess

fulltiltpoker.co.uk
04-16-2011 , 08:46 PM
Yeah good time for spoof sites and jokes. Hope you're as easily entertained when the Great Magician the US Gov makes your balances disappear.
04-16-2011 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by walkmyline
Link to re download FTP for us customers, the uk link or whatever. I cant get on my account the update wont load. I uninstall and reinstall on the Uk link right? Anyone have the link?
My download isn't working now either. Got the main PC earlier but nogo now on the laptop.

I'm canadian...
04-16-2011 , 08:48 PM
uhhhhhhhhhh im bored
04-16-2011 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 28renton
Mike Sexton look pretty baller right now having signed with PartyPoker over FT/PS.
Maybe that's because he was an old owner of party poker back in the day and sold out for $15 million?

      
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